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<blockquote data-quote="Sanyam Deshi" data-source="post: 90795" data-attributes="member: 5926"><p>You have not added anything to your side of the argument.</p><p></p><p>As I said before. Yes, this scenario would provide factual data that there is consistency to this anomaly, but the <u>cause</u> of such events is still no more clear than before. Demons? Spirits? Increased brainwaves sent from an thrilled trickster? Some invisible cotton candy monster? It's already one thing is to make the assumption that something truly supernatural is occurring, but making assumptions on the supernatural cause is a ridiculously larger assumption.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, <em>definitely</em>. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite48" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> I do believe in some sort of spiritual energy, but I think that it is the sort of thing that transcends human science and physics and can't be detected by technology.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Clearly! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite48" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>I look forward to seeing their results. Dark matter and demons are not very comparable though.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My strongest argument against you is created by you. I have never once stated anything along the lines of "Ouija boards are definitely fake" or "Nobody has ever experienced anything supernatural with an Ouija board." The funny part is that you are doing the exact opposite. You are essentially saying "I am right and everyone else is wrong". It's at the other end of the spectrum, though. You aren't dismissing all recordings. You are believing every one of them! You are saying that you are 100% correct, undoubtedly so.</p><p></p><p>Hear me out. I am a religious person. I do, indeed, believe in the existence of supernatural entities beyond the capability of being discovered by science. I acknowledge that this is a <strong>belief</strong>. I don't go around telling people that my beliefs are fact. Heck, most of the people who share their beliefs without stating that they are factual get shunned by many Internet users. Here, you have taken an extreme and told me that you are right, and there is no exception. This is pretty much representative of you sticking your fingers in your ears, especially due to the fact that your latest argument seems to be a reworded post emphasizing the same repetitive ideas you have been making in every other post in this topic.</p><p></p><p>My reasons for skepticism toward Ouija boards are as follows:</p><p>-Why must demons and spirits control Ouija boards and not throw around pens or something? Is there really something special about some mass-manufactured piece of plastic? Is it one of the symbols on it that makes it suddenly "work" for spirits? How did a human manage to discover such a symbol? How did he convince production companies to include it on their device?</p><p>-There is also the variable of tricksters, as I mentioned earlier, but never elaborated on. I was at some Halloween party and participated in a game with one of these devices. There were probably about 10 of us all at once with our hand on the pointer. Of course, movement of the pointer begins to happen. A friend tells me later that he was the one moving it. Meanwhile, the rest of the group was completely buying it, and some still talk about it years later, still believing as much as before. That's the problem: people are gullible and sometimes have too much trust at the wrong times (I have nothing against trust in itself). It could be a friend, even a best friend, a parent, or a sibling that feels like pulling some sort of practical joke... but "they totally would never try to trick me and if they did, they would've told me later about it". Not necessarily. In my real life experience, this was the case, and everyone went on to believe. For all I know, one of them could be you! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite46" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sanyam Deshi, post: 90795, member: 5926"] You have not added anything to your side of the argument. As I said before. Yes, this scenario would provide factual data that there is consistency to this anomaly, but the [U]cause[/U] of such events is still no more clear than before. Demons? Spirits? Increased brainwaves sent from an thrilled trickster? Some invisible cotton candy monster? It's already one thing is to make the assumption that something truly supernatural is occurring, but making assumptions on the supernatural cause is a ridiculously larger assumption. Yeah, [I]definitely[/I]. :rolleyes: I do believe in some sort of spiritual energy, but I think that it is the sort of thing that transcends human science and physics and can't be detected by technology. Clearly! :rolleyes: I look forward to seeing their results. Dark matter and demons are not very comparable though. My strongest argument against you is created by you. I have never once stated anything along the lines of "Ouija boards are definitely fake" or "Nobody has ever experienced anything supernatural with an Ouija board." The funny part is that you are doing the exact opposite. You are essentially saying "I am right and everyone else is wrong". It's at the other end of the spectrum, though. You aren't dismissing all recordings. You are believing every one of them! You are saying that you are 100% correct, undoubtedly so. Hear me out. I am a religious person. I do, indeed, believe in the existence of supernatural entities beyond the capability of being discovered by science. I acknowledge that this is a [B]belief[/B]. I don't go around telling people that my beliefs are fact. Heck, most of the people who share their beliefs without stating that they are factual get shunned by many Internet users. Here, you have taken an extreme and told me that you are right, and there is no exception. This is pretty much representative of you sticking your fingers in your ears, especially due to the fact that your latest argument seems to be a reworded post emphasizing the same repetitive ideas you have been making in every other post in this topic. My reasons for skepticism toward Ouija boards are as follows: -Why must demons and spirits control Ouija boards and not throw around pens or something? Is there really something special about some mass-manufactured piece of plastic? Is it one of the symbols on it that makes it suddenly "work" for spirits? How did a human manage to discover such a symbol? How did he convince production companies to include it on their device? -There is also the variable of tricksters, as I mentioned earlier, but never elaborated on. I was at some Halloween party and participated in a game with one of these devices. There were probably about 10 of us all at once with our hand on the pointer. Of course, movement of the pointer begins to happen. A friend tells me later that he was the one moving it. Meanwhile, the rest of the group was completely buying it, and some still talk about it years later, still believing as much as before. That's the problem: people are gullible and sometimes have too much trust at the wrong times (I have nothing against trust in itself). It could be a friend, even a best friend, a parent, or a sibling that feels like pulling some sort of practical joke... but "they totally would never try to trick me and if they did, they would've told me later about it". Not necessarily. In my real life experience, this was the case, and everyone went on to believe. For all I know, one of them could be you! :eek: [/QUOTE]
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