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<blockquote data-quote="josiah" data-source="post: 65797" data-attributes="member: 2941"><p>I have to admit that I haven't been here in a while, but after reading these posts, I am intrigued. Not sure why I came back today. I do know that the government doesn't tell us everything - I saw a huge object fall from the sky in a ball of fire in 2009 or there-about that as far as I read in the media reports, was misidentified and then never sufficiently explained. I was in MD, but apparently the event happened over VA and people in several states saw it.</p><p> </p><p>I'm not calling that a proper extraterrestrial witnessing, just something unidentified that the government never fessed up to (or did and I just didn't find the right article). But the point here is, there are secrets.</p><p> </p><p>As for extraterrestrials, I have never personally seen anything that would cause me to suspect they exist, but the stories I hear from others can be compelling at times. More compelling is the statements that leak out from within the world's governments. If ETs really to exist, I suspect it could throw a wrench in the whole Judeo-Christian idea that man is the center of creation and his sin corrupted the universe and caused it to start deteriorating. Based on what I have seen myself in the religious realm, though, I am not really willing to throw in the towel on Christianity holding the most genuine and fundamental truths. I have seen and touched more than one weeping icon and know several healed of such things as cancer and epilepsy. I also have two friends who witnessed a (still living) Greek Orthodox Elder travel from Arizona to New York State in less than 5 minutes (they both talked to him within minutes of talking on the phone with each other). As for myself, I guess I am not pure enough to see angels, though I know people who have seen Saints (deceased), but I do have my own very real personal experiences with demons ("dreams", my roommate has seen them around my bed on more than one instance, and just generally being more 'aware' of my thoughts - no doubt in my mind they don't all come from me), and some more difficult to explain experiences of God that I won't even try to type out, but generally I recognize those times by peace and contentment, and clarity/mental sharpness, and sometimes a sort of warm energy - all of it always banishing anything cold and demonic when it comes, yet it also makes me acutely aware of my imperfections with a desire to be forgiven and to forgive. It sort of sounds like the textbook Biblical description of an experience with the Holy Spirit, but, well, it describes my experience, so why change it just to avoid being cliche? I can't really beat the description that is already there.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, since I can't share on ETs, I figured I would share on something I could that comes from my own experience. I had no idea there was any documentation around an actual physical contact encounter with an ET. My skepticism on figures and lights in the sky remains to a degree, as there are such phenomena such as ball lightening and what not that can come close to explaining some of the less visually detailed accounts of ET craft, though I am open to the possibility that there are genuine sightings of strange physical craft out there. On the other hand, what are the possibilities? These craft and creatures (for lack of a better, more dignified word) could be anything - including, simply, time-travelling humans. It may be more far fetched than ETs, but the point I mean to make is that I haven't seen a report yet that points exclusively to ET. The reports are, still, very mysterious and intriguing, and I am keeping an open mind regarding it.</p><p> </p><p>** Edit: I just read some parts of the DULCE book. I recognize some of the stuff in it from various science fiction pieces I am aware of, so I find myself unable to distinguish fact from fiction in it, at present. As with everything, there is probably a grain of truth in it, but truth is best hidden in a mixture of truth and fiction. I may be a strange egg on here - willing to listen, but not necessarily willing to take anything at face value, more often settling for 'I don't know' than any other response. I hope that doesn't turn anyone off. **</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="josiah, post: 65797, member: 2941"] I have to admit that I haven't been here in a while, but after reading these posts, I am intrigued. Not sure why I came back today. I do know that the government doesn't tell us everything - I saw a huge object fall from the sky in a ball of fire in 2009 or there-about that as far as I read in the media reports, was misidentified and then never sufficiently explained. I was in MD, but apparently the event happened over VA and people in several states saw it. I'm not calling that a proper extraterrestrial witnessing, just something unidentified that the government never fessed up to (or did and I just didn't find the right article). But the point here is, there are secrets. As for extraterrestrials, I have never personally seen anything that would cause me to suspect they exist, but the stories I hear from others can be compelling at times. More compelling is the statements that leak out from within the world's governments. If ETs really to exist, I suspect it could throw a wrench in the whole Judeo-Christian idea that man is the center of creation and his sin corrupted the universe and caused it to start deteriorating. Based on what I have seen myself in the religious realm, though, I am not really willing to throw in the towel on Christianity holding the most genuine and fundamental truths. I have seen and touched more than one weeping icon and know several healed of such things as cancer and epilepsy. I also have two friends who witnessed a (still living) Greek Orthodox Elder travel from Arizona to New York State in less than 5 minutes (they both talked to him within minutes of talking on the phone with each other). As for myself, I guess I am not pure enough to see angels, though I know people who have seen Saints (deceased), but I do have my own very real personal experiences with demons ("dreams", my roommate has seen them around my bed on more than one instance, and just generally being more 'aware' of my thoughts - no doubt in my mind they don't all come from me), and some more difficult to explain experiences of God that I won't even try to type out, but generally I recognize those times by peace and contentment, and clarity/mental sharpness, and sometimes a sort of warm energy - all of it always banishing anything cold and demonic when it comes, yet it also makes me acutely aware of my imperfections with a desire to be forgiven and to forgive. It sort of sounds like the textbook Biblical description of an experience with the Holy Spirit, but, well, it describes my experience, so why change it just to avoid being cliche? I can't really beat the description that is already there. Anyway, since I can't share on ETs, I figured I would share on something I could that comes from my own experience. I had no idea there was any documentation around an actual physical contact encounter with an ET. My skepticism on figures and lights in the sky remains to a degree, as there are such phenomena such as ball lightening and what not that can come close to explaining some of the less visually detailed accounts of ET craft, though I am open to the possibility that there are genuine sightings of strange physical craft out there. On the other hand, what are the possibilities? These craft and creatures (for lack of a better, more dignified word) could be anything - including, simply, time-travelling humans. It may be more far fetched than ETs, but the point I mean to make is that I haven't seen a report yet that points exclusively to ET. The reports are, still, very mysterious and intriguing, and I am keeping an open mind regarding it. ** Edit: I just read some parts of the DULCE book. I recognize some of the stuff in it from various science fiction pieces I am aware of, so I find myself unable to distinguish fact from fiction in it, at present. As with everything, there is probably a grain of truth in it, but truth is best hidden in a mixture of truth and fiction. I may be a strange egg on here - willing to listen, but not necessarily willing to take anything at face value, more often settling for 'I don't know' than any other response. I hope that doesn't turn anyone off. ** [/QUOTE]
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