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<blockquote data-quote="iamonarch" data-source="post: 191148" data-attributes="member: 12234"><p>1. Q: Do you believe in Hell?</p><p>--A: I did for a long time, I guess...but not anymore. I was raised Christian and got to the point where I just wanted to know if this thing everyone was so uppity about--Christ, "God," etc.--was real or not, so (like many, I assume) I decided to test it by delving into the occult. Long story short, it "worked," if by worked one means "I got the answers I was looking for," but like Kairos said, it wasn't what I thought it would be. It was...terrifying, and for a long time--over two years sleeping with the lights on every night (I still kinda' do this, actually, they're just dimmer now X D)--I thought I was surely condemned to Hell for what I'd done. The reason, I gathered, why witches and magic was forbidden in the bible, I concluded, was because, being something that actually is a thing, it bypasses faith; after all, how can one "believe" if one already knows? Therefore, magic is like cheating the system or breaking the rules of this game called "reality." You can do it, but you're out of the game after that--if it's all a test of faith to see who will act right in the belief they'll be rewarded afterwards, you can't really be rewarded or play anymore at all for that matter if you cheated to get the answers before the test is over.</p><p>--Thing is, though...and being terrified of going to Hell for many, many years and thus studying the subject for many, many more I know quite a lot about this (as well as many other things...X D)…Hell is an evolving concept. It's not the same now as it was then--the name, Hell, isn't even really what we tend to think of, and its origin isn't really only what we think it is, either. By saying that, I don't mean, "Well, you see, the ancient Abrahamic peoples believed in a concept called Sheol before Hellenic and Indo-Iranian cultures influenced"--no, that's not what I mean. I also don't mean, "Well, Hell, as a term, is a Gaelic, Germanic variant of the proper name of a Goddess associated with the realm of the dead, Helheim, in Norse and"--no, I don't mean that, either.</p><p>--…So what do I mean, then, by saying, "Hell is an evolving concept"? Well...I feel it...I can see it in colors and waves in my mind...I know what I mean, but saying it? Hmm...</p><p>--Damn, Imma' bomb this one X D</p><p>--I guess, well, yeah, I do believe in Hell, but what I believe Hell to be...is probably what each individual imagines it to be. Some might think that sounds too simplistic, but really, if you try to think about what exactly would have to be true in order for that to be the case, it's incredibly complex--divine, even...First you'd have to ask whether or not you even believe in an afterlife, and if so, why? And is there a God? Which God? And if this one, why this? And if that one, why that? So on and so forth--and if you're unwilling to piece together all the answers to all the questions that an inquiry like, "Do you believe in Hell" drags up along with it, then...well...</p><p>--You probably shouldn't ask. </p><p>--…That's just my thoughts on it, though (I'm not sure if I actually really said anything, however X D).</p><p>--I guess if anyone finds any part of that interesting or curious or helpful in anyway, I'll expound on it...</p><p>--...I might even answer 2 and 3 X D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="iamonarch, post: 191148, member: 12234"] 1. Q: Do you believe in Hell? --A: I did for a long time, I guess...but not anymore. I was raised Christian and got to the point where I just wanted to know if this thing everyone was so uppity about--Christ, "God," etc.--was real or not, so (like many, I assume) I decided to test it by delving into the occult. Long story short, it "worked," if by worked one means "I got the answers I was looking for," but like Kairos said, it wasn't what I thought it would be. It was...terrifying, and for a long time--over two years sleeping with the lights on every night (I still kinda' do this, actually, they're just dimmer now X D)--I thought I was surely condemned to Hell for what I'd done. The reason, I gathered, why witches and magic was forbidden in the bible, I concluded, was because, being something that actually is a thing, it bypasses faith; after all, how can one "believe" if one already knows? Therefore, magic is like cheating the system or breaking the rules of this game called "reality." You can do it, but you're out of the game after that--if it's all a test of faith to see who will act right in the belief they'll be rewarded afterwards, you can't really be rewarded or play anymore at all for that matter if you cheated to get the answers before the test is over. --Thing is, though...and being terrified of going to Hell for many, many years and thus studying the subject for many, many more I know quite a lot about this (as well as many other things...X D)…Hell is an evolving concept. It's not the same now as it was then--the name, Hell, isn't even really what we tend to think of, and its origin isn't really only what we think it is, either. By saying that, I don't mean, "Well, you see, the ancient Abrahamic peoples believed in a concept called Sheol before Hellenic and Indo-Iranian cultures influenced"--no, that's not what I mean. I also don't mean, "Well, Hell, as a term, is a Gaelic, Germanic variant of the proper name of a Goddess associated with the realm of the dead, Helheim, in Norse and"--no, I don't mean that, either. --…So what do I mean, then, by saying, "Hell is an evolving concept"? Well...I feel it...I can see it in colors and waves in my mind...I know what I mean, but saying it? Hmm... --Damn, Imma' bomb this one X D --I guess, well, yeah, I do believe in Hell, but what I believe Hell to be...is probably what each individual imagines it to be. Some might think that sounds too simplistic, but really, if you try to think about what exactly would have to be true in order for that to be the case, it's incredibly complex--divine, even...First you'd have to ask whether or not you even believe in an afterlife, and if so, why? And is there a God? Which God? And if this one, why this? And if that one, why that? So on and so forth--and if you're unwilling to piece together all the answers to all the questions that an inquiry like, "Do you believe in Hell" drags up along with it, then...well... --You probably shouldn't ask. --…That's just my thoughts on it, though (I'm not sure if I actually really said anything, however X D). --I guess if anyone finds any part of that interesting or curious or helpful in anyway, I'll expound on it... --...I might even answer 2 and 3 X D [/QUOTE]
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