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<blockquote data-quote="StarLord" data-source="post: 18926" data-attributes="member: 44"><p><strong>Re: Slow down Light</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Daplet\")</div></p><p> </p><p>Indeed? And you are basing your assumption that a book written some 2000 years ago would surpass scientific experimentation? Are you of the pursuasion that because it's in the bible it must be true?? Are you serious? To bring a foundation like that to use as a premis in order to have a serious discussion would get you about 2.5 seconds, if that, in an institution of higher learning.</p><p> </p><p>My bagel aged because of time passing. Nothing more, nothing less. The bagel was not created to look aged, it was the passage of time that caused it to age.</p><p> </p><p>There is no assumption what so ever about dating how much a carbon isotope has aged when tested. If they were assuming, the calibration on the machine would not have defineable numbers to go by but instead have "Sorta old" "Kinda old" "Not really old" "Newbie" readouts.</p><p> </p><p>Unfortunately, what that book does not talk about are the several civilizations that have sprug up and gone by the wayside way beyond the projected 4000 to 5000 year spoof that is offered, in the order of about some 75,000 to 150,000 years that may have actually taken place if not considerably longer. Nor does the book talk about the DNA manipulation that was done to humans at the bequest of "God" in order to allow homo sapiens a better crack at a higher state of consciousness thus the ability to actually experience 'Spirit' or God before checking out. </p><p> </p><p>Seeings how Soul is eternal anyway, that one step in our evolutionary leap sure sped things up. Like us comming up with all those stories and books based mostly on dreams and oral traditions from the jewish faith and putting a new spin on it and try to pass it off as a new faith. </p><p> </p><p>The state of consciousness 2 to 3 thousand years ago is a far cry from what it is today. Do you suspose it's likely that imformation concerning God and the whole 'creation' spiel was proffered in metaphor, as apposed to real actual happenings due to the fact that you would have to spend several years creating a foundation and understanding so those folks back then could actually comprehend and therefore use that information to the best possible benifit to themselves and thus each other? Assuredly none of us have a handle on what really took place during the creation of the Physical Plane, the Universe and all those Billions upon Billions of Galaxies. However science, matehmatics, physics all seem to agree that the 'Big Bang' theory is about the closest to what may have happened. </p><p> </p><p>Creating all of this in that fashion and the fact that evolution makes the most sense, in reality, takes absolutely NOTHING away from God. Think about it, is there really a difference in wether this happened in 7 'days' because God willed it and suddenly every single bird, fish, animal and Us appeared with the prerequisite millions of years evolution to get them there, Or wether time took it's normal course and over the period of billions of years weh have all that we have and more because God willed it?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Don't get me wrong, I strongly believe in Spirit, or God and the fact that several Savants or Saints has passed through here teaching about the existance of that all powerfull, All seeing, is everywhere, all loving, tends to forgive me when I seriously fall down and go boom, waiting for me to get my act together here so I can go perform some 'real job' else where, Penultimate Being. </p><p> </p><p>However, to base your speculations on something because "It's written in the bible" only works when the folks you are speaking with think as you do and could care less about imperical evidence. This planet is any where from 5 to 7 Billion years old. It was not 'created' to appear old, it is that old. Look at it this way, what logical sense is there in making something look old just to jive with speculative and 'storied' information about creation?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarLord, post: 18926, member: 44"] [b]Re: Slow down Light[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Daplet\")</div> Indeed? And you are basing your assumption that a book written some 2000 years ago would surpass scientific experimentation? Are you of the pursuasion that because it's in the bible it must be true?? Are you serious? To bring a foundation like that to use as a premis in order to have a serious discussion would get you about 2.5 seconds, if that, in an institution of higher learning. My bagel aged because of time passing. Nothing more, nothing less. The bagel was not created to look aged, it was the passage of time that caused it to age. There is no assumption what so ever about dating how much a carbon isotope has aged when tested. If they were assuming, the calibration on the machine would not have defineable numbers to go by but instead have "Sorta old" "Kinda old" "Not really old" "Newbie" readouts. Unfortunately, what that book does not talk about are the several civilizations that have sprug up and gone by the wayside way beyond the projected 4000 to 5000 year spoof that is offered, in the order of about some 75,000 to 150,000 years that may have actually taken place if not considerably longer. Nor does the book talk about the DNA manipulation that was done to humans at the bequest of "God" in order to allow homo sapiens a better crack at a higher state of consciousness thus the ability to actually experience 'Spirit' or God before checking out. Seeings how Soul is eternal anyway, that one step in our evolutionary leap sure sped things up. Like us comming up with all those stories and books based mostly on dreams and oral traditions from the jewish faith and putting a new spin on it and try to pass it off as a new faith. The state of consciousness 2 to 3 thousand years ago is a far cry from what it is today. Do you suspose it's likely that imformation concerning God and the whole 'creation' spiel was proffered in metaphor, as apposed to real actual happenings due to the fact that you would have to spend several years creating a foundation and understanding so those folks back then could actually comprehend and therefore use that information to the best possible benifit to themselves and thus each other? Assuredly none of us have a handle on what really took place during the creation of the Physical Plane, the Universe and all those Billions upon Billions of Galaxies. However science, matehmatics, physics all seem to agree that the 'Big Bang' theory is about the closest to what may have happened. Creating all of this in that fashion and the fact that evolution makes the most sense, in reality, takes absolutely NOTHING away from God. Think about it, is there really a difference in wether this happened in 7 'days' because God willed it and suddenly every single bird, fish, animal and Us appeared with the prerequisite millions of years evolution to get them there, Or wether time took it's normal course and over the period of billions of years weh have all that we have and more because God willed it? Don't get me wrong, I strongly believe in Spirit, or God and the fact that several Savants or Saints has passed through here teaching about the existance of that all powerfull, All seeing, is everywhere, all loving, tends to forgive me when I seriously fall down and go boom, waiting for me to get my act together here so I can go perform some 'real job' else where, Penultimate Being. However, to base your speculations on something because "It's written in the bible" only works when the folks you are speaking with think as you do and could care less about imperical evidence. This planet is any where from 5 to 7 Billion years old. It was not 'created' to appear old, it is that old. Look at it this way, what logical sense is there in making something look old just to jive with speculative and 'storied' information about creation? [/QUOTE]
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