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Terminator Paradox, but what type
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<blockquote data-quote="start at edge" data-source="post: 189473" data-attributes="member: 11971"><p>Here is what I think:</p><p>Whoever came up with the grandfather paradox has gone too far, because in this case it would have been proper to title it “the 4 (or all) grandparents paradox”. It is safe to assume that the “you” is the product of only one of your parents (not necessarily both), that is – if someone would have had another father or another mother, would he (or she) have been a different person after birth? .. I think not .. so, to trick around this paradox, it would be solely sufficient to eliminate yourself by going to the past. If you eliminate only one of the 4 grandparents (in our case one of the 2 grandfathers), the person to be born is still you. In order to have no “you”, you would have to eliminate all 4 grandparents, so the most efficient way to be no “you” at some point in time, is to eliminate yourself (in your own past) .. it is useless to sacrifice 4 people (all 4 being most likely innocent).</p><p>In conclusion, if someone wants to travel back in time messing things up as little as possible (maybe even not at all), the safest way is to travel back BEFORE your birth, maybe even before your grandparents birth.</p><p>As an example, in the sketch below, you were born at the time A, some split did occur at time B (creating another timeline) and you are currently living in time C (the red line represents your life from birth to today). The safest way is to go back somewhere between A and Z, even before Z (the blue line represents your originating timeline, before you were born), preferably at least before the first split counting backwards in time.</p><p>It is possible to traverse timelines, yet extremely difficult, only by going back prior to some previous split point and then choosing very carefully any action of yours in order to change track when the next split(s) occur (which is the actual difficult part, as it is almost impossible to know when exactly a split will occur, because the split is not determined by the final effect, but by the initial cause of it, within what we call an “event” – an event consists of multiple causes, one of which is the initial cause .. and a final effect).</p><p>So, this is what I think on this subject.</p><p>As for “Terminator”, it is just a movie .. and a very good one I might say. I like in general movies that handle time travel, but I see them simply as movies, as entertainment, as having a good time for a few satisfying hours. If you seek slipups, I suggest “Back To The Future” – there are plenty of them there, yet it is a great movie, in fact it is one of my most favorite movies.</p><p>[ATTACH=full]8728[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="start at edge, post: 189473, member: 11971"] Here is what I think: Whoever came up with the grandfather paradox has gone too far, because in this case it would have been proper to title it “the 4 (or all) grandparents paradox”. It is safe to assume that the “you” is the product of only one of your parents (not necessarily both), that is – if someone would have had another father or another mother, would he (or she) have been a different person after birth? .. I think not .. so, to trick around this paradox, it would be solely sufficient to eliminate yourself by going to the past. If you eliminate only one of the 4 grandparents (in our case one of the 2 grandfathers), the person to be born is still you. In order to have no “you”, you would have to eliminate all 4 grandparents, so the most efficient way to be no “you” at some point in time, is to eliminate yourself (in your own past) .. it is useless to sacrifice 4 people (all 4 being most likely innocent). In conclusion, if someone wants to travel back in time messing things up as little as possible (maybe even not at all), the safest way is to travel back BEFORE your birth, maybe even before your grandparents birth. As an example, in the sketch below, you were born at the time A, some split did occur at time B (creating another timeline) and you are currently living in time C (the red line represents your life from birth to today). The safest way is to go back somewhere between A and Z, even before Z (the blue line represents your originating timeline, before you were born), preferably at least before the first split counting backwards in time. It is possible to traverse timelines, yet extremely difficult, only by going back prior to some previous split point and then choosing very carefully any action of yours in order to change track when the next split(s) occur (which is the actual difficult part, as it is almost impossible to know when exactly a split will occur, because the split is not determined by the final effect, but by the initial cause of it, within what we call an “event” – an event consists of multiple causes, one of which is the initial cause .. and a final effect). So, this is what I think on this subject. As for “Terminator”, it is just a movie .. and a very good one I might say. I like in general movies that handle time travel, but I see them simply as movies, as entertainment, as having a good time for a few satisfying hours. If you seek slipups, I suggest “Back To The Future” – there are plenty of them there, yet it is a great movie, in fact it is one of my most favorite movies. [ATTACH type="full" alt="8728"]8728[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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