Menu
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New profile posts
Latest activity
Vault
Time Travel Schematics
T.E.C. Time Archive
The Why Files
Have You Seen...?
Chronovisor
TimeTravelForum.tk
TimeTravelForum.net
ParanormalNetwork.net
Paranormalis.com
ConspiracyCafe.net
Streams
Live streams
Featured streams
Multi-Viewer
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More options
Contact us
Close Menu
Forums
Paranormal Forum
Aliens & UFOs
The Annunaki, Reptilian shape-shifters from Nibiru
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 28228" data-attributes="member: 443"><p><strong>The Annunaki, Reptilian shape-shifters from Nibiru</strong></p><p></p><p>All,</p><p> </p><p>Many people out there (and some here) endeavor to believe that all is not what it seems. This is to be applauded, in my opinion, since from such folks new discoveries flow. However, the need to believe in something greater than one's self can lead down a very dangerous road (Spanish Inquisition anyone?) Some folks are so easily led (or misled) that they in fact do exactly the opposite of what one might expect. That is, you wouldn't think that someone that believes that "all is not what it seems" would take statements about reality at face value. But this is exactly what these souls do in the case of Zecharia Sitchen and his interpretation of Sumerian Mythology as found on ancient cuneiform tablets.</p><p> </p><p>For those of you that don't know about this, Sitchen came up with a theory in (I believe) 1976 that humans were the result of genetic manipulation of female apes about half a million years ago by aliens from a "tenth planet" (Niburu) that orbits our sun every 3600 years or so. His theory is based on his interpretation of certain cuneiform tablets originating in Mesopotamia that record the mythos of the Sumerian civilization.</p><p> </p><p>The Sumerians believed, like so many other early religions, that their gods came from the sky. The fact that so many religions begin from this point has been fodder for an enormous number of outrageous wallet-emptying pseudo-historical tomes. Unfortunately, the God of Abraham didn't exactly make this claim, and is therefore not as legitimate as others, apparently. Anyway, the Sumerian gods were called the Annunaki and, in a manner similar to the Greek and Norse Gods, their exploits are (or were) legend, at least among the Sumerians. There are many writings about these gods, of course, along with many other more mundane surviving cuneiform scripts. These include receipts, accounting records, letters, signs and all the other minutia of everyday life. The followers of Sitchen, in responding to his critics, often claim that the dispute is merely one of translation. What they don't say, and Sitchen never tells you, is that the Sumerians actually left dictionaries behind, so the meanings of their words should be absolutely clear and unambiguous. These are not translation dictionaries, of course, but as in any dictionary, when a word is defined that particular word is not used in the definition. This leads to as clear an understanding of cuneiform words as can be expected, and agreement on the meaning of Akkadian and Sumerian words is enjoyed by practically every scholar that looks into these things, with the exception of Sitchen. </p><p> </p><p>The Annunaki, as Sitchen says, were from another planet, though the Sumerians didn't know what we today know of the solar system. No, according to Sitchen, the Sumerians knew more than we do, owing to their contacts with the Annunaki. Sitchen bases this incredible idea on a design found on one single seal, which according to Sitchen, showed the sun surrounded by the nine planets, as well as the tenth planet Niburu, home of the Annunaki. I must note here that the evidence about this seal presented by Sitchen in his introductory work "Twelfth Planet" consisted of a hand drawn diagram (drawn by Sitchen, of course) that was supposed to be an accurate depiction of what was found on the seal. It turned out that Sitchen had changed a few things from the original in his copy, and every change tended to support his theory, however only incrementally. I'll forgive Sitchen for this, he is not an artist and the correlation of his errors with support for his theory could have been entirely accidental <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> . Michael S. Heiser, a recognized expert in the field of Akkadian and Sumerian languages and art has another opinion of this seal:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>(The above is from : <a href="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm</a> - VA243 )</p><p>Anyway, now to the meat of the matter. There have been hundreds of scholars study all these Sumerian tablets, but none have come up with Sitchen?s interpretation. Here are a few quotes from others about this anomalous fact:</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Michael S. Heiser again, from <a href="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm" target="_blank">http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm</a> - VA243</p><p></p><p>Robert Todd Carroll, ?The Skeptic?s Dictionary? <a href="http://skepdic.com/sitchin.html" target="_blank">http://skepdic.com/sitchin.html</a></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Jason Colavito, Zecharia Sitchen?s world. <a href="http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id14.html" target="_blank">http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizati...tions/id14.html</a></p><p>And here?s a little more on the solar-system-depicting seal mentioned in this previous quote, and mentioned earlier in my statements:</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Tom Van Flandern, Astronomer, and author of Dark Matter, Missing Planets & New Comets.</p><p><a href="http://www.lauralee.com/vanflan.htm" target="_blank">http://www.lauralee.com/vanflan.htm</a></p><p>There are many, many websites out there of Sitchen debunkers, and all of them are perfectly believable and rational in their explanation of where Sitchen is wrong and how that leads to the complete refutation of his theory. Most of the debunkers are not angry at Sitchen (yet), nor are they rabid anti-catastophists (for you Bubbu). The majority are men of letters that are tired of being asked about these silly theories and have decided to post responses on the internet to direct the questioners to. On the other hand, there are about a million pro-Sitchen sites out there, and almost every one is rabidly anti science and anti Sitchen-debunkers. For an example of where the illogic of Sitchen has led, all you need to do is run a Google search on the following string : Annunaki reptile draco bloodline Niburu. Let me know if you find anything resembling rational thought.</p><p> </p><p>Finally, I would suggest that the reader take a good look at the websites I have linked to here. There is a lot of info on some of these sites that I will not go into here. In particular, there are reams of writings about Sitchens inability to properly translate cuneiform tablets on the Sitchen is Wrong website <a href="http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/" target="_blank">http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/</a>. Several PDF files are there as well as tons of info on the Akkadian and Sumerian Mythology, for those that are truly interested. I cannot post everything here (at least not in one post) because 1) my computer is old and feeble, and 2) my ISP is rickety and cheap.</p><p> </p><p>Any comments about this posting I will certainly try to reply to, as I have a mountain of reference sites saved that pertain to Sitchen and his hangers-on.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 28228, member: 443"] [b]The Annunaki, Reptilian shape-shifters from Nibiru[/b] All, Many people out there (and some here) endeavor to believe that all is not what it seems. This is to be applauded, in my opinion, since from such folks new discoveries flow. However, the need to believe in something greater than one's self can lead down a very dangerous road (Spanish Inquisition anyone?) Some folks are so easily led (or misled) that they in fact do exactly the opposite of what one might expect. That is, you wouldn't think that someone that believes that "all is not what it seems" would take statements about reality at face value. But this is exactly what these souls do in the case of Zecharia Sitchen and his interpretation of Sumerian Mythology as found on ancient cuneiform tablets. For those of you that don't know about this, Sitchen came up with a theory in (I believe) 1976 that humans were the result of genetic manipulation of female apes about half a million years ago by aliens from a "tenth planet" (Niburu) that orbits our sun every 3600 years or so. His theory is based on his interpretation of certain cuneiform tablets originating in Mesopotamia that record the mythos of the Sumerian civilization. The Sumerians believed, like so many other early religions, that their gods came from the sky. The fact that so many religions begin from this point has been fodder for an enormous number of outrageous wallet-emptying pseudo-historical tomes. Unfortunately, the God of Abraham didn't exactly make this claim, and is therefore not as legitimate as others, apparently. Anyway, the Sumerian gods were called the Annunaki and, in a manner similar to the Greek and Norse Gods, their exploits are (or were) legend, at least among the Sumerians. There are many writings about these gods, of course, along with many other more mundane surviving cuneiform scripts. These include receipts, accounting records, letters, signs and all the other minutia of everyday life. The followers of Sitchen, in responding to his critics, often claim that the dispute is merely one of translation. What they don't say, and Sitchen never tells you, is that the Sumerians actually left dictionaries behind, so the meanings of their words should be absolutely clear and unambiguous. These are not translation dictionaries, of course, but as in any dictionary, when a word is defined that particular word is not used in the definition. This leads to as clear an understanding of cuneiform words as can be expected, and agreement on the meaning of Akkadian and Sumerian words is enjoyed by practically every scholar that looks into these things, with the exception of Sitchen. The Annunaki, as Sitchen says, were from another planet, though the Sumerians didn't know what we today know of the solar system. No, according to Sitchen, the Sumerians knew more than we do, owing to their contacts with the Annunaki. Sitchen bases this incredible idea on a design found on one single seal, which according to Sitchen, showed the sun surrounded by the nine planets, as well as the tenth planet Niburu, home of the Annunaki. I must note here that the evidence about this seal presented by Sitchen in his introductory work "Twelfth Planet" consisted of a hand drawn diagram (drawn by Sitchen, of course) that was supposed to be an accurate depiction of what was found on the seal. It turned out that Sitchen had changed a few things from the original in his copy, and every change tended to support his theory, however only incrementally. I'll forgive Sitchen for this, he is not an artist and the correlation of his errors with support for his theory could have been entirely accidental :) . Michael S. Heiser, a recognized expert in the field of Akkadian and Sumerian languages and art has another opinion of this seal: (The above is from : [URL]http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm[/URL] - VA243 ) Anyway, now to the meat of the matter. There have been hundreds of scholars study all these Sumerian tablets, but none have come up with Sitchen?s interpretation. Here are a few quotes from others about this anomalous fact: Michael S. Heiser again, from [URL]http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/sitchinerrors.htm[/URL] - VA243 Robert Todd Carroll, ?The Skeptic?s Dictionary? [URL]http://skepdic.com/sitchin.html[/URL] Jason Colavito, Zecharia Sitchen?s world. [URL="http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizations/id14.html"]http://jcolavito.tripod.com/lostcivilizati...tions/id14.html[/URL] And here?s a little more on the solar-system-depicting seal mentioned in this previous quote, and mentioned earlier in my statements: Tom Van Flandern, Astronomer, and author of Dark Matter, Missing Planets & New Comets. [URL]http://www.lauralee.com/vanflan.htm[/URL] There are many, many websites out there of Sitchen debunkers, and all of them are perfectly believable and rational in their explanation of where Sitchen is wrong and how that leads to the complete refutation of his theory. Most of the debunkers are not angry at Sitchen (yet), nor are they rabid anti-catastophists (for you Bubbu). The majority are men of letters that are tired of being asked about these silly theories and have decided to post responses on the internet to direct the questioners to. On the other hand, there are about a million pro-Sitchen sites out there, and almost every one is rabidly anti science and anti Sitchen-debunkers. For an example of where the illogic of Sitchen has led, all you need to do is run a Google search on the following string : Annunaki reptile draco bloodline Niburu. Let me know if you find anything resembling rational thought. Finally, I would suggest that the reader take a good look at the websites I have linked to here. There is a lot of info on some of these sites that I will not go into here. In particular, there are reams of writings about Sitchens inability to properly translate cuneiform tablets on the Sitchen is Wrong website [URL]http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/[/URL]. Several PDF files are there as well as tons of info on the Akkadian and Sumerian Mythology, for those that are truly interested. I cannot post everything here (at least not in one post) because 1) my computer is old and feeble, and 2) my ISP is rickety and cheap. Any comments about this posting I will certainly try to reply to, as I have a mountain of reference sites saved that pertain to Sitchen and his hangers-on. Harte [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
Paranormal Forum
Aliens & UFOs
The Annunaki, Reptilian shape-shifters from Nibiru
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top