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<blockquote data-quote="Dmitri" data-source="post: 15947" data-attributes="member: 397"><p><strong>Re: The Creation of Man</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Zoomerz\")</div></p><p>I know, Z-, I just thought that I may have sounded like I would like to burn somebody myself, so I added that remark to mean that I did not want to burn anybody. </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div></p><p>Michael Ruse (Darwinist), now at the University of Paris, announced at a recent meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science that "evolution, akin to religion, involves making certain a priori or metaphysical assumptions, which at some level cannot be proven empirically."</p><p> </p><p>?Intelligent design does not claim that living things came together suddenly in their present form through the efforts of a supernatural creator. Intelligent design is not and never will be a doctrine of creation.? (William Dembski, No Free Lunch, pg. 314) </p><p> </p><p>I have been interested in evolution for about 26 years now, studied Darwinism, new synthesis, etc. For about four years I had worked on phylogenetic trees. Comparing genes is part of my job now. Not that I see tons of evidence, I see none. I guess a lot depends on how you define evolution. If this is the textbook single trunk tree of life, sort of bacterium-primitive metazoan-worm-fish-frog-reptile-rat-chimp-man direct descent evolution, these is zero micrograms of evidence to support it, in genes or elsewhere. If you define evolution as a change in genes, this one sure takes place. An important thing is that this kind of evolution appears to be directed, either by intragenomic factors (initially pre-programmed evolution) or by external factors (?upgrades? by viruses and bacteria). I think the answer which of the two can be found in a couple of years. I hope to contribute a bit here. Another big question is to what extent this evolution progresses. Can it form new species (-probably), new genera (-possibly), new orders (-??), or new phyla (-????)? This still implies direct descent, but too abrupt to leave a paleontological record. Another scenario, hardly testable though, is that new life forms have been itroduces episodically by sort of ready-to-develop spores, no direct descent here. I have not thought about it much. </p><p> </p><p>To be fair to the ID (intelligent design) guys, please check the site at <a href="http://www.ideacenter.org/" target="_blank">http://www.ideacenter.org/</a> </p><p> </p><p>And there is panspermia site at <a href="http://www.panspermia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.panspermia.org/</a> NASA spends good money now on related lines of research. </p><p> </p><p>With little relevance to science although showing the consequences of natural selection is the book "From Darwin to Hitler, Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics and Racism in Germany" (Palgrave MacMillan), by Richard Weikart. <a href="http://www.darwintohitler.com/" target="_blank">http://www.darwintohitler.com/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dmitri, post: 15947, member: 397"] [b]Re: The Creation of Man[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Zoomerz\")</div> I know, Z-, I just thought that I may have sounded like I would like to burn somebody myself, so I added that remark to mean that I did not want to burn anybody. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div> Michael Ruse (Darwinist), now at the University of Paris, announced at a recent meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science that "evolution, akin to religion, involves making certain a priori or metaphysical assumptions, which at some level cannot be proven empirically." ?Intelligent design does not claim that living things came together suddenly in their present form through the efforts of a supernatural creator. Intelligent design is not and never will be a doctrine of creation.? (William Dembski, No Free Lunch, pg. 314) I have been interested in evolution for about 26 years now, studied Darwinism, new synthesis, etc. For about four years I had worked on phylogenetic trees. Comparing genes is part of my job now. Not that I see tons of evidence, I see none. I guess a lot depends on how you define evolution. If this is the textbook single trunk tree of life, sort of bacterium-primitive metazoan-worm-fish-frog-reptile-rat-chimp-man direct descent evolution, these is zero micrograms of evidence to support it, in genes or elsewhere. If you define evolution as a change in genes, this one sure takes place. An important thing is that this kind of evolution appears to be directed, either by intragenomic factors (initially pre-programmed evolution) or by external factors (?upgrades? by viruses and bacteria). I think the answer which of the two can be found in a couple of years. I hope to contribute a bit here. Another big question is to what extent this evolution progresses. Can it form new species (-probably), new genera (-possibly), new orders (-??), or new phyla (-????)? This still implies direct descent, but too abrupt to leave a paleontological record. Another scenario, hardly testable though, is that new life forms have been itroduces episodically by sort of ready-to-develop spores, no direct descent here. I have not thought about it much. To be fair to the ID (intelligent design) guys, please check the site at [url=http://www.ideacenter.org/]http://www.ideacenter.org/[/url] And there is panspermia site at [url=http://www.panspermia.org/]http://www.panspermia.org/[/url] NASA spends good money now on related lines of research. With little relevance to science although showing the consequences of natural selection is the book "From Darwin to Hitler, Evolutionary Ethics, Eugenics and Racism in Germany" (Palgrave MacMillan), by Richard Weikart. [url=http://www.darwintohitler.com/]http://www.darwintohitler.com/[/url] [/QUOTE]
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