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<blockquote data-quote="Dmitri" data-source="post: 15952" data-attributes="member: 397"><p><strong>Re: The Creation of Man</strong></p><p></p><p>Back to ET, ID and panspermia. BTW, I try to follow reason, using minimal imagination and maximum parsimony. I will not propose animals are descendants of humans for that reason, Harte. I was sold out to ID last year, because it seems a reasonable option to consider once you are done with Darwinism. There is some difficulty to define intelligent though, especially if you do not want to say who the designer is. You can invoke the Absolute, or you can do without, up to your perception. The general basis for ID is that new information, including genes, cannot come alone by random search and selection, which leads to accepting directing forces that appear intelligent, vs. physical forces that we know of, more intelligent than us, because we can only scratch the surface for now. And I have not had time to talk to ID guys much so far; I will look for a couple to collaborate with soon, I hope. </p><p> </p><p>There is a proposition for ET and bacteria. It can be derived from the minimum mutation rate of 10-9, which would destroy genomes, that species are destined to die unless they acquire new genetic upgrades somehow (without random emergence of new genes made by the Darwinian demon). It is especially deadly for asexual and quickly reproducing organisms like bacteria (we can disregard their conjugation here) and leads to the estimates of the species maximum life span in the order of 100-1000 years. Although some bacteria can survive in the spore forms for many millions of years, still for all of them to have been around for 3.5 billion years ET should be sending either lots of new bacteria to earth or lots of new viruses to upgrade them, or both. Some of the bacteria may be oldish (but not 3 billion years old anyway) yet most may be very recent. It will tick off pretty much any microbiologist, hehe. We are quite young ourselves, just starting to decay a bit, not a great deal so far, and there is help, is not there?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dmitri, post: 15952, member: 397"] [b]Re: The Creation of Man[/b] Back to ET, ID and panspermia. BTW, I try to follow reason, using minimal imagination and maximum parsimony. I will not propose animals are descendants of humans for that reason, Harte. I was sold out to ID last year, because it seems a reasonable option to consider once you are done with Darwinism. There is some difficulty to define intelligent though, especially if you do not want to say who the designer is. You can invoke the Absolute, or you can do without, up to your perception. The general basis for ID is that new information, including genes, cannot come alone by random search and selection, which leads to accepting directing forces that appear intelligent, vs. physical forces that we know of, more intelligent than us, because we can only scratch the surface for now. And I have not had time to talk to ID guys much so far; I will look for a couple to collaborate with soon, I hope. There is a proposition for ET and bacteria. It can be derived from the minimum mutation rate of 10-9, which would destroy genomes, that species are destined to die unless they acquire new genetic upgrades somehow (without random emergence of new genes made by the Darwinian demon). It is especially deadly for asexual and quickly reproducing organisms like bacteria (we can disregard their conjugation here) and leads to the estimates of the species maximum life span in the order of 100-1000 years. Although some bacteria can survive in the spore forms for many millions of years, still for all of them to have been around for 3.5 billion years ET should be sending either lots of new bacteria to earth or lots of new viruses to upgrade them, or both. Some of the bacteria may be oldish (but not 3 billion years old anyway) yet most may be very recent. It will tick off pretty much any microbiologist, hehe. We are quite young ourselves, just starting to decay a bit, not a great deal so far, and there is help, is not there? [/QUOTE]
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