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<blockquote data-quote="Dmitri" data-source="post: 16954" data-attributes="member: 397"><p><strong>Re: The Creation of Man</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div></p><p>Harte,</p><p> </p><p>About the time needed to create a small single gene say 300 base pairs long by random search on the organic basis we know, I trust there is not enough time in the Universe all mass included, from its Big Bang to the Big Rip of 2x10to 10 years from now for this to happen. Spetner?s ?Not by chance? maybe more fun to read than Hoyle. Spetner is a biophysicist and specialist in information theory. I do not know what happed in the Universe if it is steady state, we cannot embrace infinity, but it is not a good solution, through such immensely improbable events, anyway. This is why some propose conditions where life originated were very different. I like the idea of time loops, physical existence of the Universe at all its times, and the creator of life being its own creator and then modifier at later times, although the upstream source may not be exactly a single source ancestry. This way we do not need the origination factor. I?ll drop below a couple of lines from my previous blog. </p><p> </p><p>About time loops: this is not only permitted by modern physics, it is actively debated, more on the ways and details rather than on the general principle. Also laws of thermodynamics may well be local, even if our whole universe is local. Anyway, they do not contradict time loops very much. </p><p> </p><p>If we consider directed panspermia, viruses and bacteria is just the simplest way, and look sufficient to direct evolution. They are ubiquitous, can survive hundreds of millions of years in spore/ crystal forms so can travel through cosmic space, maybe wormholes. And we do not need more complicated scenarios with UFOs landing and delivering everything still hot. </p><p> </p><p>If life exists on time loops, and the Universe has multiple connection points, even if we consider only one trajectory, then we do not need origination factors, RNA primordial worlds and associated nonsense. Life and intelligence are inmost parts of the matter.</p><p> </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div></p><p>StarLord,</p><p> </p><p>We should be able to distill some of the possibilities/ intentions, I guess; this is always a pleasure to think of. They should also have been taking care of all other millions of species on earth for them to continue and make for the diversity in concert with each other. </p><p> </p><p>I do not know if we can modify our DNA by will. I tend to think we can rearrange it to some extent, if only by switching genes on and off. We can certainly make genes work by will, like we can secrete saliva by will, adrenaline, etc. We may be able to make more long lasting changes in a Lamarckian way, I think. We do not know mechanisms yet. As to disease, we can certainly mobilize our body and help it by will, certainly better than by chemo. New type of chemo will be based on genetic engineering, it is emerging already, still very primitive though, but it resembles future ways of lab based DNA modification and creation of (better) life.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dmitri, post: 16954, member: 397"] [b]Re: The Creation of Man[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div> Harte, About the time needed to create a small single gene say 300 base pairs long by random search on the organic basis we know, I trust there is not enough time in the Universe all mass included, from its Big Bang to the Big Rip of 2x10to 10 years from now for this to happen. Spetner?s ?Not by chance? maybe more fun to read than Hoyle. Spetner is a biophysicist and specialist in information theory. I do not know what happed in the Universe if it is steady state, we cannot embrace infinity, but it is not a good solution, through such immensely improbable events, anyway. This is why some propose conditions where life originated were very different. I like the idea of time loops, physical existence of the Universe at all its times, and the creator of life being its own creator and then modifier at later times, although the upstream source may not be exactly a single source ancestry. This way we do not need the origination factor. I?ll drop below a couple of lines from my previous blog. About time loops: this is not only permitted by modern physics, it is actively debated, more on the ways and details rather than on the general principle. Also laws of thermodynamics may well be local, even if our whole universe is local. Anyway, they do not contradict time loops very much. If we consider directed panspermia, viruses and bacteria is just the simplest way, and look sufficient to direct evolution. They are ubiquitous, can survive hundreds of millions of years in spore/ crystal forms so can travel through cosmic space, maybe wormholes. And we do not need more complicated scenarios with UFOs landing and delivering everything still hot. If life exists on time loops, and the Universe has multiple connection points, even if we consider only one trajectory, then we do not need origination factors, RNA primordial worlds and associated nonsense. Life and intelligence are inmost parts of the matter. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div> StarLord, We should be able to distill some of the possibilities/ intentions, I guess; this is always a pleasure to think of. They should also have been taking care of all other millions of species on earth for them to continue and make for the diversity in concert with each other. I do not know if we can modify our DNA by will. I tend to think we can rearrange it to some extent, if only by switching genes on and off. We can certainly make genes work by will, like we can secrete saliva by will, adrenaline, etc. We may be able to make more long lasting changes in a Lamarckian way, I think. We do not know mechanisms yet. As to disease, we can certainly mobilize our body and help it by will, certainly better than by chemo. New type of chemo will be based on genetic engineering, it is emerging already, still very primitive though, but it resembles future ways of lab based DNA modification and creation of (better) life. [/QUOTE]
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