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<blockquote data-quote="Dmitri" data-source="post: 16962" data-attributes="member: 397"><p><strong>Re: The Creation of Man</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div></p><p>For the sake of understanding what?s what and a lot more it sure does. We kind of depend on deciphering reality because it has helped our technological progress a lot (in physics mostly, not in biology yet). A lot of people, I agree, can do without it and prefer ways where it should not matter much. However respectful, these ways are not new. Now our mind gets more analytical. To me, materialistic truth matters, however relative it may be. Among most immediate applications there should be much better and more natural medicine. By natural I mean both using herbs knowingly and modifying our genes knowingly. While most people in science think evolution exists as pictured, slime to rabbits, through distracting us both from the Absolute and the materialistic truth, this situation causes a very deep negative impact on all our development, morality and lives. We cannot develop medicine much, and we loose on the spiritual side too, as we are being mentally ill, as F. Hoyle puts it. It is changing but very slowly. Hoyle wrote to sum up his calculations: ?And the outcome of this essay? Well as common sense would suggest, the Darwinian theory is correct in the small but not in the large. Rabbits come from other slightly different rabbits, not from either soup or potatoes. Where they came from in the first place is a problem yet to be solved, like much else of a cosmic scale.? I am trying to speculate on the origins. F. Crick says that whatever means there is for spreading life out there, sending bacteria (I would add viruses) comes as a first simplest step in history. He means it as coming from more advanced (billions of years more advanced than us) civilizations. I propose a possibility of future turning back on past, and ET know how to use it, to get rid of the origination factor. Origination of life mechanistically is a problem anyway. Then to get rid of the egg-to-chicken problem, I would say a spore comes first, then the chicken, and so on. BTW, I do not mean grand time travels, esp. to start with, -just sending simplest smallest living forms through accelerated wormholes. Or we may go on thinking rabbits come from slime somewhere, not on earth though, by laws we do not know of; it looks less reasonable to me. </p><p> </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div></p><p>I do not know much of the parallel worlds theory. The time loops I meant was just a way to get rid of the origination factor and say the intelligence and life are part of the Universe, so that they do not have to be born from molecules gradually as new chemicals are born from chemical reactions. If the parallel worlds theory can do this, I am all for it. </p><p>BTW, there is Astrobiology comparatively new journal. Also interesting are the sites at <a href="http://www.panspermia.org/balloon2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.panspermia.org/balloon2.htm</a> and <a href="http://dwij.org/pathfinders/linda_moulton_howe/linda_mh5.htm" target="_blank">http://dwij.org/pathfinders/linda_moulton_...e/linda_mh5.htm</a> They are serious about panspermia, there are growing data; the bacteria are still difficult to differentiate fom earth bacterai though. Pansperimia does not explain everything, yet it shows that the primordial soup and RNA world does not win the (first clause of the) case for the mechanistic kind of evolution. Still it is mostly about the statistics of it that does not work; and people after Darwin did not care much to look into it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dmitri, post: 16962, member: 397"] [b]Re: The Creation of Man[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"StarLord\")</div> For the sake of understanding what?s what and a lot more it sure does. We kind of depend on deciphering reality because it has helped our technological progress a lot (in physics mostly, not in biology yet). A lot of people, I agree, can do without it and prefer ways where it should not matter much. However respectful, these ways are not new. Now our mind gets more analytical. To me, materialistic truth matters, however relative it may be. Among most immediate applications there should be much better and more natural medicine. By natural I mean both using herbs knowingly and modifying our genes knowingly. While most people in science think evolution exists as pictured, slime to rabbits, through distracting us both from the Absolute and the materialistic truth, this situation causes a very deep negative impact on all our development, morality and lives. We cannot develop medicine much, and we loose on the spiritual side too, as we are being mentally ill, as F. Hoyle puts it. It is changing but very slowly. Hoyle wrote to sum up his calculations: ?And the outcome of this essay? Well as common sense would suggest, the Darwinian theory is correct in the small but not in the large. Rabbits come from other slightly different rabbits, not from either soup or potatoes. Where they came from in the first place is a problem yet to be solved, like much else of a cosmic scale.? I am trying to speculate on the origins. F. Crick says that whatever means there is for spreading life out there, sending bacteria (I would add viruses) comes as a first simplest step in history. He means it as coming from more advanced (billions of years more advanced than us) civilizations. I propose a possibility of future turning back on past, and ET know how to use it, to get rid of the origination factor. Origination of life mechanistically is a problem anyway. Then to get rid of the egg-to-chicken problem, I would say a spore comes first, then the chicken, and so on. BTW, I do not mean grand time travels, esp. to start with, -just sending simplest smallest living forms through accelerated wormholes. Or we may go on thinking rabbits come from slime somewhere, not on earth though, by laws we do not know of; it looks less reasonable to me. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div> I do not know much of the parallel worlds theory. The time loops I meant was just a way to get rid of the origination factor and say the intelligence and life are part of the Universe, so that they do not have to be born from molecules gradually as new chemicals are born from chemical reactions. If the parallel worlds theory can do this, I am all for it. BTW, there is Astrobiology comparatively new journal. Also interesting are the sites at [url=http://www.panspermia.org/balloon2.htm]http://www.panspermia.org/balloon2.htm[/url] and [url=http://dwij.org/pathfinders/linda_moulton_howe/linda_mh5.htm]http://dwij.org/pathfinders/linda_moulton_...e/linda_mh5.htm[/url] They are serious about panspermia, there are growing data; the bacteria are still difficult to differentiate fom earth bacterai though. Pansperimia does not explain everything, yet it shows that the primordial soup and RNA world does not win the (first clause of the) case for the mechanistic kind of evolution. Still it is mostly about the statistics of it that does not work; and people after Darwin did not care much to look into it. [/QUOTE]
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