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The Extreme Scarcity of Life in the Universe
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<blockquote data-quote="MODAT7" data-source="post: 257406" data-attributes="member: 13649"><p>Since nobody can truly prove that the observable universe actually exists, what we see must be an observation error.</p><p></p><p>There have been some debates about how NASA defines size in the universe, but it's still big.</p><p></p><p>On an active geology planet like Earth, ancient civilization traces would eventually be wiped out. Maybe that's a good thing. The only things that seem to survive time are the harder stone structures. I've yet to see advanced technology built out of stone, but a stone casing could protect something like that for a long time.</p><p></p><p>Derelict ships should still be around if they haven't gotten too close to stars or black holes. Their hulls would show radiation damage from constant space bombardment along with any (micro)meteors. It's theoretically possible to have a self sustaining life cycle in a large enough ship that could go on for a very long time if properly maintained. Maybe the beings in those ships got fed up with civilization and formed hippy communes that shun outsiders, so we never see them.</p><p></p><p>The question of time between civilizations comes down the the created vs evolved argument. If life is created, maybe we don't get along with each other so well, so the universe is given a break between species. If life is evolved, there could be countless numbers of species out there, but many could be at an evolutionary dead end... or maybe they all went to war and destroyed each other. In that case, there would be natural breaks, but there could be survivors still living in self sustained ark ships.</p><p></p><p>Since the universe still exists after all this unknown time, we should take comfort that a universe destroying superweapon hasn't been created and used. Maybe those species destroyed themselves with a planet buster before they developed to that point.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MODAT7, post: 257406, member: 13649"] Since nobody can truly prove that the observable universe actually exists, what we see must be an observation error. There have been some debates about how NASA defines size in the universe, but it's still big. On an active geology planet like Earth, ancient civilization traces would eventually be wiped out. Maybe that's a good thing. The only things that seem to survive time are the harder stone structures. I've yet to see advanced technology built out of stone, but a stone casing could protect something like that for a long time. Derelict ships should still be around if they haven't gotten too close to stars or black holes. Their hulls would show radiation damage from constant space bombardment along with any (micro)meteors. It's theoretically possible to have a self sustaining life cycle in a large enough ship that could go on for a very long time if properly maintained. Maybe the beings in those ships got fed up with civilization and formed hippy communes that shun outsiders, so we never see them. The question of time between civilizations comes down the the created vs evolved argument. If life is created, maybe we don't get along with each other so well, so the universe is given a break between species. If life is evolved, there could be countless numbers of species out there, but many could be at an evolutionary dead end... or maybe they all went to war and destroyed each other. In that case, there would be natural breaks, but there could be survivors still living in self sustained ark ships. Since the universe still exists after all this unknown time, we should take comfort that a universe destroying superweapon hasn't been created and used. Maybe those species destroyed themselves with a planet buster before they developed to that point. [/QUOTE]
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