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<blockquote data-quote="dimension-1hacker" data-source="post: 197575" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>Can you prove that perception is needed for things to exist?</p><p>my maybe temporary proofs are:</p><p>Nothing can move itself physically, it seems only consciousness can cause itself as understanding is more then the physical system, understanding is the system knowing itself which is different then a physical process as understanding requires something to not be apart yet understand multiple things. We are part of the system and consciousness or thinking about the system whatever that means is the only way seemingly the system can understand itself. Since consciousness is based off my current understanding at-least is the thing that connects one thing to another thing by causing itself, as based off process of elimation physical objects cannot cause themselves to move but things are moving, it could be a property but what I can't describe with my understanding of language, and consciousness is seemingly the only other unknown. Therefore consciousness is the thing that causes itself as nothing to what I understand now has that ability consciousness determines the way everything is because consciousness is the only thing causes everything to be the way it is. everything needs a cause therefore there are an infinite amount of causes yet no cause can be called a cause if it did not cause itself, and if only consciousness does that, where you are depends on your visual internal perception of the external world, and what the external world you may be perceiving accurately is determined by your perception. Some, well a large amount of mental degradation won't prevent me from knowing or think I know that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dimension-1hacker, post: 197575, member: 11791"] Can you prove that perception is needed for things to exist? my maybe temporary proofs are: Nothing can move itself physically, it seems only consciousness can cause itself as understanding is more then the physical system, understanding is the system knowing itself which is different then a physical process as understanding requires something to not be apart yet understand multiple things. We are part of the system and consciousness or thinking about the system whatever that means is the only way seemingly the system can understand itself. Since consciousness is based off my current understanding at-least is the thing that connects one thing to another thing by causing itself, as based off process of elimation physical objects cannot cause themselves to move but things are moving, it could be a property but what I can't describe with my understanding of language, and consciousness is seemingly the only other unknown. Therefore consciousness is the thing that causes itself as nothing to what I understand now has that ability consciousness determines the way everything is because consciousness is the only thing causes everything to be the way it is. everything needs a cause therefore there are an infinite amount of causes yet no cause can be called a cause if it did not cause itself, and if only consciousness does that, where you are depends on your visual internal perception of the external world, and what the external world you may be perceiving accurately is determined by your perception. Some, well a large amount of mental degradation won't prevent me from knowing or think I know that. [/QUOTE]
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