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<blockquote data-quote="Einstein" data-source="post: 197778" data-attributes="member: 288"><p>Force=Weight=Mass x Acceleration. This statement was given to us in my introductory physics class in high school. It was stated as fact. We were introduced to Newtons laws and his famous equation F=MA. We did some lab experiments introducing us to the proportionality between and inertial mass and an inertial acceleration on an incline. The only problem which I realized much later in life was that the proportional relationship in an inertial acceleration was actually between an inertial weight and an inertial acceleration. This you can confirm for yourself during an acceleration in your car. You feel the presence of weight pressing you into the seat in the opposite direction to the cars acceleration. </p><p>In fact no method was given to determine an objects inertial mass other than to measure an objects gravitational mass on a balance scale. We were told to use gravitational mass in Newtons equation because it was assumed to be the same as inertial mass with no proof offered. My instructor stated that it was not known whether or not inertial mass and gravitational mass were the same. </p><p></p><p>Then there is the little observed anomaly with gravity that no one mentioned at all. An object in gravitational free fall within a vacuum experiences no gravitational weight at all. The object is weightless during free fall. So gravitational acceleration doesn't have a proportional relationship with either its weight or mass. The observation doesn't support that assumption. So Newtons laws wouldn't apply to objects experiencing gravitational weight or gravitational acceleration. Please also observe that an object experiencing gravitational weight is usually sitting motionless with respect to the earth. No acceleration is present or measurable on an object experiencing gravitational weight. I just wanted to point out there is a distinct and observable difference between gravitational weight and inertial weight. Also please note that the observations contain observable gravitational weight or inertial weight, not mass!</p><p></p><p>The final nail in the coffin for mass comes with the balance scale. I pointed out that there is no observable or measurable acceleration on an object experiencing gravitational weight. Yet we were told to multiply the objects gravitational mass by its gravitational acceleration to come up with the objects gravitational weight. Despite the fact that we know through observation that those two gravitational states do not occur on an object at the same time. So let's do it anyway just to hammer that nail all the way in. Just multiply the objects gravitational mass by its gravitational acceleration and we come up with the objects gravitational weight. So one kilogram times 9.8 meters per second squared gives a value of 9.8 newtons of gravitational weight. Yet the balance scale shows one kilogram of mass. We are using the force of gravity to perform the measurement. So one kilogram of mass is equivalent to 9.8 newtons. We know that through observation. Yet we also know the object on the scale is not accelerating. Obviously gravitational weight is not parsable into mass and acceleration. The weight measurement and the mass measurement are equivalent. Seems like a mathematical paradox to me. Since a kilogram does not equal a kilogram times a meter per second squared. But the physical observation says they do. I don't know about you. But I always choose the physical observation as being the fact. Obviously mass and weight are the same thing. Even though we are being deceptively lied to. But why? Must be something about gravity that the controllers of knowledge don't want us to know about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Einstein, post: 197778, member: 288"] Force=Weight=Mass x Acceleration. This statement was given to us in my introductory physics class in high school. It was stated as fact. We were introduced to Newtons laws and his famous equation F=MA. We did some lab experiments introducing us to the proportionality between and inertial mass and an inertial acceleration on an incline. The only problem which I realized much later in life was that the proportional relationship in an inertial acceleration was actually between an inertial weight and an inertial acceleration. This you can confirm for yourself during an acceleration in your car. You feel the presence of weight pressing you into the seat in the opposite direction to the cars acceleration. In fact no method was given to determine an objects inertial mass other than to measure an objects gravitational mass on a balance scale. We were told to use gravitational mass in Newtons equation because it was assumed to be the same as inertial mass with no proof offered. My instructor stated that it was not known whether or not inertial mass and gravitational mass were the same. Then there is the little observed anomaly with gravity that no one mentioned at all. An object in gravitational free fall within a vacuum experiences no gravitational weight at all. The object is weightless during free fall. So gravitational acceleration doesn't have a proportional relationship with either its weight or mass. The observation doesn't support that assumption. So Newtons laws wouldn't apply to objects experiencing gravitational weight or gravitational acceleration. Please also observe that an object experiencing gravitational weight is usually sitting motionless with respect to the earth. No acceleration is present or measurable on an object experiencing gravitational weight. I just wanted to point out there is a distinct and observable difference between gravitational weight and inertial weight. Also please note that the observations contain observable gravitational weight or inertial weight, not mass! The final nail in the coffin for mass comes with the balance scale. I pointed out that there is no observable or measurable acceleration on an object experiencing gravitational weight. Yet we were told to multiply the objects gravitational mass by its gravitational acceleration to come up with the objects gravitational weight. Despite the fact that we know through observation that those two gravitational states do not occur on an object at the same time. So let's do it anyway just to hammer that nail all the way in. Just multiply the objects gravitational mass by its gravitational acceleration and we come up with the objects gravitational weight. So one kilogram times 9.8 meters per second squared gives a value of 9.8 newtons of gravitational weight. Yet the balance scale shows one kilogram of mass. We are using the force of gravity to perform the measurement. So one kilogram of mass is equivalent to 9.8 newtons. We know that through observation. Yet we also know the object on the scale is not accelerating. Obviously gravitational weight is not parsable into mass and acceleration. The weight measurement and the mass measurement are equivalent. Seems like a mathematical paradox to me. Since a kilogram does not equal a kilogram times a meter per second squared. But the physical observation says they do. I don't know about you. But I always choose the physical observation as being the fact. Obviously mass and weight are the same thing. Even though we are being deceptively lied to. But why? Must be something about gravity that the controllers of knowledge don't want us to know about. [/QUOTE]
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