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<blockquote data-quote="StarLord" data-source="post: 12021" data-attributes="member: 44"><p><strong>The Mentally Ill</strong></p><p></p><p>Doc,</p><p></p><p>When you get your chance, do not hesitate to see that movie. It was a pivotal point in my life. Rare is it when a movie does that. It has several layers to it with many different subplots, if you will. The acting and character development was par excellence. I have to admit that the actress that played Nurse Ratched, Louise Fletcher, was one of the most consummate character portrayals that I have seen.</p><p></p><p>So much so, that for years I could not stand to see Louise Fletcher as my detest for her as a living being surpassed hatred. She was that good in her acting, and the directing was just as keen, bordering on the sublime.</p><p></p><p>To come to the point of understanding that the Nurse in charge of your welfare is way more dangerous than the other "insane" inmates, must be horrifying at best.</p><p></p><p>You post has reminded me of some thoughts that I have had for many years, speculations regarding our societies viewpoints and so called measurements concerning "mental illness" I think we are all to some degree "out there", it just depends on how far out on the limb one is and just how functional they can be amongst society.</p><p></p><p>Take for instance a person that has experienced spiritual enlightenment. Depending upon the strength of that experience, the amount of insight and or degree of leap that has taken place, that person may be in a space where nothing makes sense, thus leaving them to "put back the pieces" as it were, in order to try and have things make sense. The problem is, those pieces no longer fit like they did because you are no longer the same, nor do you view the world in the same way that you did prior to the experience. Lastly, the language to express and or describe the experience my not exist, you know it happened, but you cannot put in words exactly what happened.</p><p></p><p>Our minds have many ways to decipher the outer world and means to make the pertinent connections to what we know as reality, or to us, what we think the Real world is about. Because we are so different, each of us seeking different truths and experiences, we do not always agree on the intrinsic import of what we see and the relative merit each happening has to offer. </p><p></p><p>The mind also has within it many ways to 'buffer' experiences to the acceptable level which we can handle or accept them. So much so, that it is reasonable for a person to create a world within themselves in order to survive a traumatic episode. It is almost as if the mind knows that if it dealt immediately with the experience, it would be just like a computer crash, where the hard drive becomes useless. So, that 'safe' world is erected with its cathartic boundaries in place and from that point, bit by bit, the rebuilding process starts. For some, the rebuilding of the self may take a long time with professional help necessary to complete the process. For others, depending upon the degree of destruction or severity of trauma, that process may not take place.</p><p></p><p>It is interesting to note that for all intension and purposes, the persons mind seems a shambles and broken, it is still aware and functioning enough to save itself from any more harm, a wondrous reaction indeed.</p><p></p><p>I have often wondered sometimes if the truly sane amongst us were the ones that had been locked up, removed from society so as not to taint the clueless that were grazing in free society, left to their own mental devices until such time as they were deemed 'sane' and set free. </p><p></p><p>It has been said that "There is a very fine line between Genius and Insanity". The creative world and forces that are in play there are powerful indeed. Some of our greatest creative thinkers and inventors could have mistakenly been labeled insane and or 'maladjusted individuals'. Individual being the key word there, definitely apart from the norm of society. But so what? Here you have a person totaly a conduit for the creative force, inventions or ideas bursting forth, their mental process and thinking, a veritable lightening bolt on grease. Who among us are silly enough to judge a lack of socks as a indicator of sanity?</p><p></p><p>In martial arts we learn '<strong>Never</strong> <strong>Underestimate</strong> the old, the young, the fat or the skinny." Mankind has spent way too much energy in labeling that specific spot on the limb where they think a person is. </p><p></p><p>Better to use compassion, empathy, understanding and the giving of space rather than a judgement in my humble opinion.</p><p></p><p>Conditions in Mental institutions have gone down considerably from what they were years ago. As each successive decline in surplus funds takes place due to cut backs from administration to administration, so does the level of care and possibility of a speedy recovery. It's a shame that doing harm to others(Wars) takes precedence over healing. It used to be a mission for most people that worked in institutions to help the patients heal. Now I feel that to the majority, it's just a 9 to 5 job and let the meds do the healing. We are too quick to medicate, which incompacitates and places the patient in a chemical 'limbo' and cuts off possible pathways for the brain to heal itself.</p><p></p><p>When you get a chance, rent Patch Adams with Robin Williams. There are many insights to what we think of 'Mental Illness' and how possibly our view and thinking regarding that space may need to be adjusted.</p><p></p><p>Never judge a person you see drooling as they sit watching pigeons, for that one may be working on the next theory to surpassing light speed and be damn close to the answer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarLord, post: 12021, member: 44"] [b]The Mentally Ill[/b] Doc, When you get your chance, do not hesitate to see that movie. It was a pivotal point in my life. Rare is it when a movie does that. It has several layers to it with many different subplots, if you will. The acting and character development was par excellence. I have to admit that the actress that played Nurse Ratched, Louise Fletcher, was one of the most consummate character portrayals that I have seen. So much so, that for years I could not stand to see Louise Fletcher as my detest for her as a living being surpassed hatred. She was that good in her acting, and the directing was just as keen, bordering on the sublime. To come to the point of understanding that the Nurse in charge of your welfare is way more dangerous than the other "insane" inmates, must be horrifying at best. You post has reminded me of some thoughts that I have had for many years, speculations regarding our societies viewpoints and so called measurements concerning "mental illness" I think we are all to some degree "out there", it just depends on how far out on the limb one is and just how functional they can be amongst society. Take for instance a person that has experienced spiritual enlightenment. Depending upon the strength of that experience, the amount of insight and or degree of leap that has taken place, that person may be in a space where nothing makes sense, thus leaving them to "put back the pieces" as it were, in order to try and have things make sense. The problem is, those pieces no longer fit like they did because you are no longer the same, nor do you view the world in the same way that you did prior to the experience. Lastly, the language to express and or describe the experience my not exist, you know it happened, but you cannot put in words exactly what happened. Our minds have many ways to decipher the outer world and means to make the pertinent connections to what we know as reality, or to us, what we think the Real world is about. Because we are so different, each of us seeking different truths and experiences, we do not always agree on the intrinsic import of what we see and the relative merit each happening has to offer. The mind also has within it many ways to 'buffer' experiences to the acceptable level which we can handle or accept them. So much so, that it is reasonable for a person to create a world within themselves in order to survive a traumatic episode. It is almost as if the mind knows that if it dealt immediately with the experience, it would be just like a computer crash, where the hard drive becomes useless. So, that 'safe' world is erected with its cathartic boundaries in place and from that point, bit by bit, the rebuilding process starts. For some, the rebuilding of the self may take a long time with professional help necessary to complete the process. For others, depending upon the degree of destruction or severity of trauma, that process may not take place. It is interesting to note that for all intension and purposes, the persons mind seems a shambles and broken, it is still aware and functioning enough to save itself from any more harm, a wondrous reaction indeed. I have often wondered sometimes if the truly sane amongst us were the ones that had been locked up, removed from society so as not to taint the clueless that were grazing in free society, left to their own mental devices until such time as they were deemed 'sane' and set free. It has been said that "There is a very fine line between Genius and Insanity". The creative world and forces that are in play there are powerful indeed. Some of our greatest creative thinkers and inventors could have mistakenly been labeled insane and or 'maladjusted individuals'. Individual being the key word there, definitely apart from the norm of society. But so what? Here you have a person totaly a conduit for the creative force, inventions or ideas bursting forth, their mental process and thinking, a veritable lightening bolt on grease. Who among us are silly enough to judge a lack of socks as a indicator of sanity? In martial arts we learn '[b]Never[/b] [b]Underestimate[/b] the old, the young, the fat or the skinny." Mankind has spent way too much energy in labeling that specific spot on the limb where they think a person is. Better to use compassion, empathy, understanding and the giving of space rather than a judgement in my humble opinion. Conditions in Mental institutions have gone down considerably from what they were years ago. As each successive decline in surplus funds takes place due to cut backs from administration to administration, so does the level of care and possibility of a speedy recovery. It's a shame that doing harm to others(Wars) takes precedence over healing. It used to be a mission for most people that worked in institutions to help the patients heal. Now I feel that to the majority, it's just a 9 to 5 job and let the meds do the healing. We are too quick to medicate, which incompacitates and places the patient in a chemical 'limbo' and cuts off possible pathways for the brain to heal itself. When you get a chance, rent Patch Adams with Robin Williams. There are many insights to what we think of 'Mental Illness' and how possibly our view and thinking regarding that space may need to be adjusted. Never judge a person you see drooling as they sit watching pigeons, for that one may be working on the next theory to surpassing light speed and be damn close to the answer. [/QUOTE]
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