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<blockquote data-quote="OmniBon" data-source="post: 172205" data-attributes="member: 10298"><p>I got a different calculation based on your numbers. 198.060337405 Years. Approximately twice as much as you reported. I will put the calculations here and below. Calculations as follows:</p><p></p><p>1.0 + 1.3973E(-8) = 1.00046874193</p><p>6.226 billion years = 6,226,000,000</p><p></p><p>1.00056874193 (difference in seconds) x (over) 6,226,000,000 (years) = 6,228,918,387.26 (seconds)</p><p></p><p>6,228,918,387.26 (seconds) ÷ 60 (seconds to minutes) ÷ 60 (minutes to hours) ÷ 24 (hours to days) ÷ 7 (days to weeks) ÷ 52 (weeks to years) = 198.060337405 (years)</p><p></p><p>NOT 87 (years).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Would be glad to help. If this brane is nearly identical to yours then ti would stand to reason we would have philosophy and capability as you do. I can't compare and contrast how much more philosophy based or capability based this brane is to yours. Further, what would be more important is in this brane that you be safe. I believe you indicated something about traveling between branes only taking place if there was some sort of resource or gain to be had. This type of principle is similar in our brane (Earth I mean really) but what happens is a lot of collusion and violence for material gain etc. So the scope of such a project you mention would clearly be much larger than you are expressing. The "why" and "who" type of questions...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I will patiently wait. I was more hoping to direct you to the depths of our branes knowledge as well as the holders of said knowledge.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Strings as a string sounds - love the concept. I am unsure if that is a concept as of yet in our brane but I would venture to say some have considered it. I had not, and it makes all too much sense.</p><p></p><p>Passing to other branes? Through... "membranes" perhaps ;-)</p><p></p><p>So, in your brane, you say you can travel correct? How have you been able to make the improbable happen on such a large scale?</p><p></p><p>Eventually, sir, we will have to cut to the chase and spend more time talking about components you need, and everything that goes with that, as well as who might be the best person to assist you with your goals in our brane.</p><p></p><p>PS welcome to our brane!</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]RijB8wnJCN0[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree. Proofing God beyond a doubt would be an existence without questions. I believe God might work in such a way that this is not possible.</p><p></p><p>Here are a few notes I have about God:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]Wf9-vwnzqOo[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>- Likely all of reality is caused by design.. but I have taken this further to suggest that the cause is all 3 physical necessity, random chance, and design, simultaneously. I am a big fan of the work of William Lane Craig.</p><p></p><p>- There is only one everything because two everythings would invalidate each other. That is to say, everything encompasses my brane and yours. Reality is that everything. For me, God is reality. Everything is just because it is. "It is" is the most basic universal truth. Reality is in a state of existence. "Just", as in, the occurrence is correct or righteous, but more over fair and neutral. The word "Justice" insinuates fairness but also sounds a lot like "Just is". When things ARE fair you know they are fair because they are even but it might be philosophically false to wonder why fair IS even - "it just is". "Because" as in its existence has a cause. "It is", again, as in, the its purpose for existing is self contained and intrinsically bound to its existence. That statement is just a way to look at the chain of events of cause and affect, on an infinite timeline, as one.</p><p></p><p>- Humans are intelligent. Most of us claim to have agency over ourselves and accredit our actions to that agency. Animals do not always exhibit agency, yet even when they do not they do, however, exhibit intelligent behavior - we call instinct. It would stand to reason intelligence and agency are not mutually exclusive but perhaps they correlate.</p><p></p><p>- it is my firm belief that "you" as in the you you think you are and not the fleshy vessel chemical robot you are attached to etc, exist under the same principle "God" exists as a omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient being, and not just the laws of nature etc. This is just another extension or form of pantheism etc. I go a little further into philosophical paradoxes, and consider things like entanglement theory, observer affect, and schodingers cat, and consider the possibility that "you" and "God" are so miraculous that you both exist and do not.. that is to say you are both "you" and a chemical robot and "God" is both God and all of reality.</p><p></p><p>- Something cannot be omnipresent without being omniscient. Also it could not be omnipresent without being omnipotent. And if A = B and A = C then B = C right?</p><p></p><p>- If God is omnipotent can he/she/it create a rock he/she/it cannot lift? = Can God create a will in which he/she/it cannot control? = Can the universe manifest a consciousness in which it does not control? It is a paradox and maybe you have to feel it instead of think about it.</p><p></p><p>- I have SEVERAL more but I would like to just drop it in another response, shortly after this one. It is just information to take back to your brane on God.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1.0 + 1.3973E(-8) = 1.00046874193</p><p>6.226 billion years = 6,226,000,000</p><p>1.00056874193 (difference in seconds) x (over) 6,226,000,000 (years) = 6,228,918,387.26 (seconds)</p><p>6,228,918,387.26 (seconds) ÷ 60 (seconds to minutes) ÷ 60 (minutes to hours) ÷ 24 (hours to days) ÷ 7 (days to weeks) ÷ 52 (weeks to years) = 198.060337405 (years)</p><p>NOT 87 (years).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Either way, what other advancements have you made? Flying cars? Immortality? Interstellar travel? What things are different from our brane?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OmniBon, post: 172205, member: 10298"] I got a different calculation based on your numbers. 198.060337405 Years. Approximately twice as much as you reported. I will put the calculations here and below. Calculations as follows: 1.0 + 1.3973E(-8) = 1.00046874193 6.226 billion years = 6,226,000,000 1.00056874193 (difference in seconds) x (over) 6,226,000,000 (years) = 6,228,918,387.26 (seconds) 6,228,918,387.26 (seconds) ÷ 60 (seconds to minutes) ÷ 60 (minutes to hours) ÷ 24 (hours to days) ÷ 7 (days to weeks) ÷ 52 (weeks to years) = 198.060337405 (years) NOT 87 (years). Would be glad to help. If this brane is nearly identical to yours then ti would stand to reason we would have philosophy and capability as you do. I can't compare and contrast how much more philosophy based or capability based this brane is to yours. Further, what would be more important is in this brane that you be safe. I believe you indicated something about traveling between branes only taking place if there was some sort of resource or gain to be had. This type of principle is similar in our brane (Earth I mean really) but what happens is a lot of collusion and violence for material gain etc. So the scope of such a project you mention would clearly be much larger than you are expressing. The "why" and "who" type of questions... I will patiently wait. I was more hoping to direct you to the depths of our branes knowledge as well as the holders of said knowledge. Strings as a string sounds - love the concept. I am unsure if that is a concept as of yet in our brane but I would venture to say some have considered it. I had not, and it makes all too much sense. Passing to other branes? Through... "membranes" perhaps ;-) So, in your brane, you say you can travel correct? How have you been able to make the improbable happen on such a large scale? Eventually, sir, we will have to cut to the chase and spend more time talking about components you need, and everything that goes with that, as well as who might be the best person to assist you with your goals in our brane. PS welcome to our brane! [MEDIA=youtube]RijB8wnJCN0[/MEDIA] I agree. Proofing God beyond a doubt would be an existence without questions. I believe God might work in such a way that this is not possible. Here are a few notes I have about God: [MEDIA=youtube]Wf9-vwnzqOo[/MEDIA] - Likely all of reality is caused by design.. but I have taken this further to suggest that the cause is all 3 physical necessity, random chance, and design, simultaneously. I am a big fan of the work of William Lane Craig. - There is only one everything because two everythings would invalidate each other. That is to say, everything encompasses my brane and yours. Reality is that everything. For me, God is reality. Everything is just because it is. "It is" is the most basic universal truth. Reality is in a state of existence. "Just", as in, the occurrence is correct or righteous, but more over fair and neutral. The word "Justice" insinuates fairness but also sounds a lot like "Just is". When things ARE fair you know they are fair because they are even but it might be philosophically false to wonder why fair IS even - "it just is". "Because" as in its existence has a cause. "It is", again, as in, the its purpose for existing is self contained and intrinsically bound to its existence. That statement is just a way to look at the chain of events of cause and affect, on an infinite timeline, as one. - Humans are intelligent. Most of us claim to have agency over ourselves and accredit our actions to that agency. Animals do not always exhibit agency, yet even when they do not they do, however, exhibit intelligent behavior - we call instinct. It would stand to reason intelligence and agency are not mutually exclusive but perhaps they correlate. - it is my firm belief that "you" as in the you you think you are and not the fleshy vessel chemical robot you are attached to etc, exist under the same principle "God" exists as a omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient being, and not just the laws of nature etc. This is just another extension or form of pantheism etc. I go a little further into philosophical paradoxes, and consider things like entanglement theory, observer affect, and schodingers cat, and consider the possibility that "you" and "God" are so miraculous that you both exist and do not.. that is to say you are both "you" and a chemical robot and "God" is both God and all of reality. - Something cannot be omnipresent without being omniscient. Also it could not be omnipresent without being omnipotent. And if A = B and A = C then B = C right? - If God is omnipotent can he/she/it create a rock he/she/it cannot lift? = Can God create a will in which he/she/it cannot control? = Can the universe manifest a consciousness in which it does not control? It is a paradox and maybe you have to feel it instead of think about it. - I have SEVERAL more but I would like to just drop it in another response, shortly after this one. It is just information to take back to your brane on God. 1.0 + 1.3973E(-8) = 1.00046874193 6.226 billion years = 6,226,000,000 1.00056874193 (difference in seconds) x (over) 6,226,000,000 (years) = 6,228,918,387.26 (seconds) 6,228,918,387.26 (seconds) ÷ 60 (seconds to minutes) ÷ 60 (minutes to hours) ÷ 24 (hours to days) ÷ 7 (days to weeks) ÷ 52 (weeks to years) = 198.060337405 (years) NOT 87 (years). Either way, what other advancements have you made? Flying cars? Immortality? Interstellar travel? What things are different from our brane? [/QUOTE]
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