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<blockquote data-quote="temporal recon" data-source="post: 52265" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>Yes, Sam, I <em>have</em> been telling you and others here that I have discovered other time travelers. <em>They are here now. </em></p><p> </p><p>I also believe I mentioned the other night that username "Keke" on Time Travel Institute was just such a time traveler.</p><p> </p><p>I was very interested and disappointed to see yours and others' reactions to Qronos' posts: that it was supporting evidence that John Titor was real.</p><p> </p><p>With all due respect, how many times is everyone going to keep asking the same question? How much evidence is <em>enough</em> evidence to where we finally accept it and say "yes, John was real. Now what does that <em>mean</em>? What are the <em>implications?</em>" Instead, people took Qronos' posts just to try to bolster a question that has been answered already, <em>in spades.</em> At the risk of sounding a little self-promoting, the evidence I compiled is definitive and has been published for any and all to see.</p><p> </p><p>I no longer wonder if John Titor was really a time traveler. I no longer pore over every little turn of phrase he uttered looking for some hint at what awaits us in the future. I also no longer look for yet <em>more </em>evidence proving that he was exactly what he said he was. Why? Because, again, that question has already been answered.</p><p> </p><p>The question now for me (and which should, respectfully, be for you too) is, "now what?"</p><p> </p><p>This led me to research and look for <em>others.</em></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>So while I use the topic of "John Titor" as a general point to direct my interest where I will watch the boards to see if anyone interesting pops up (such as Keke), I don't make it a habit to post any more. Many are not ready nor willing to move beyond the Titor posts and delve into the deeper mystery of <em>(</em>what I have termed) "<em>the actual truth," </em>which would be the topic I would be more interested in discussing and debating.</p><p> </p><p>It is because of this, that I hesitate to divulge the others that I have discovered, especially in a forum. By providing what I have discovered for the 8 or 9 others, one question will inevitably arise: <em>"how do you know?"</em></p><p> </p><p>As has been evidenced by the years <em>following</em> the Titor posts 12 years ago, any number of hoaxers have appeared attempting to deceive others by calling themselves time travelers or even John himself. The good ones have studied the posts in an attempt to learn all the ins and outs of the story. <em>But there are other aspects to Titor and others like him</em> that stand out to those with eyes to see them. By knowing these yardsticks to measure any potential TT'ers/hoaxers by, the hoaxers fall by the wayside pretty quickly. And, as you can imagine, if I were to divulge "how I know" this would simply give ammunition to would-be hoaxers to polish their hoaxes, muddying the waters of my own understanding of the topic. As you can imagine, I am averse to do this.</p><p> </p><p>Also following any disclosure would be the unavoidable (and invariably rude) debunkers for whom I have very little patience. Peregrini's feeble response to Liberty's discovery of Qronos is a good example. Skeptics I can work with. Debunkers are a waste of my time. I'm not really interested in "debating" a given topic with someone who has only the information presented in the posts themselves to base his position and is incapable or unwilling to accept <em>the actual (and larger) truth.</em></p><p> </p><p>Sam, you and others <em>have</em> asked me to provide these usernames or identities of the other TT'ers. I can respect this curiosity. But, before I do this, interest in Titor must move <em>beyond his posts</em> and even accept that their understanding is <u>not </u><em>the actual truth.</em> Are people willing to give up their sacred cows if it meant learning the <em>actual truth?</em> In my experience, sadly, people are not willing to change their worldview to understand the universe better. For those of you who have read Conviction of a Time Traveler, you will note that I mentioned these steel bars that inhibit a person's growth and expanded understanding of the phenomena itself.</p><p> </p><p>So, to answer your question, Yes, there are others. I have found 8 or 9 others so far. They have all been <em>subsequent</em> to Titor's posts (interestingly) and it scares the hell out of me knowing that their presence is concentrated <em>in these most recent years. </em>And yes, there is at least one here <em>"</em>now<em>."</em></p><p> </p><p>I will close this post, not with an answer, but with a question. A question that, if followed to its logical conclusion, should lead you to a wider understanding of the Titor posts and Time Travel in general:</p><p> </p><p style="text-align: center"><em><strong>"Why was A Time Traveler's Tale written and published?"</strong></em></p> <p style="text-align: left"></p> <p style="text-align: left">Ask this question of yourself and you will have taken the first step away from the safe harbor of Titor's posts and into deeper water of what it all means...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="temporal recon, post: 52265, member: 2826"] Yes, Sam, I [I]have[/I] been telling you and others here that I have discovered other time travelers. [I]They are here now. [/I] I also believe I mentioned the other night that username "Keke" on Time Travel Institute was just such a time traveler. I was very interested and disappointed to see yours and others' reactions to Qronos' posts: that it was supporting evidence that John Titor was real. With all due respect, how many times is everyone going to keep asking the same question? How much evidence is [I]enough[/I] evidence to where we finally accept it and say "yes, John was real. Now what does that [I]mean[/I]? What are the [I]implications?[/I]" Instead, people took Qronos' posts just to try to bolster a question that has been answered already, [I]in spades.[/I] At the risk of sounding a little self-promoting, the evidence I compiled is definitive and has been published for any and all to see. I no longer wonder if John Titor was really a time traveler. I no longer pore over every little turn of phrase he uttered looking for some hint at what awaits us in the future. I also no longer look for yet [I]more [/I]evidence proving that he was exactly what he said he was. Why? Because, again, that question has already been answered. The question now for me (and which should, respectfully, be for you too) is, "now what?" This led me to research and look for [I]others.[/I] So while I use the topic of "John Titor" as a general point to direct my interest where I will watch the boards to see if anyone interesting pops up (such as Keke), I don't make it a habit to post any more. Many are not ready nor willing to move beyond the Titor posts and delve into the deeper mystery of [I]([/I]what I have termed) "[I]the actual truth," [/I]which would be the topic I would be more interested in discussing and debating. It is because of this, that I hesitate to divulge the others that I have discovered, especially in a forum. By providing what I have discovered for the 8 or 9 others, one question will inevitably arise: [I]"how do you know?"[/I] As has been evidenced by the years [I]following[/I] the Titor posts 12 years ago, any number of hoaxers have appeared attempting to deceive others by calling themselves time travelers or even John himself. The good ones have studied the posts in an attempt to learn all the ins and outs of the story. [I]But there are other aspects to Titor and others like him[/I] that stand out to those with eyes to see them. By knowing these yardsticks to measure any potential TT'ers/hoaxers by, the hoaxers fall by the wayside pretty quickly. And, as you can imagine, if I were to divulge "how I know" this would simply give ammunition to would-be hoaxers to polish their hoaxes, muddying the waters of my own understanding of the topic. As you can imagine, I am averse to do this. Also following any disclosure would be the unavoidable (and invariably rude) debunkers for whom I have very little patience. Peregrini's feeble response to Liberty's discovery of Qronos is a good example. Skeptics I can work with. Debunkers are a waste of my time. I'm not really interested in "debating" a given topic with someone who has only the information presented in the posts themselves to base his position and is incapable or unwilling to accept [I]the actual (and larger) truth.[/I] Sam, you and others [I]have[/I] asked me to provide these usernames or identities of the other TT'ers. I can respect this curiosity. But, before I do this, interest in Titor must move [I]beyond his posts[/I] and even accept that their understanding is [U]not [/U][I]the actual truth.[/I] Are people willing to give up their sacred cows if it meant learning the [I]actual truth?[/I] In my experience, sadly, people are not willing to change their worldview to understand the universe better. For those of you who have read Conviction of a Time Traveler, you will note that I mentioned these steel bars that inhibit a person's growth and expanded understanding of the phenomena itself. So, to answer your question, Yes, there are others. I have found 8 or 9 others so far. They have all been [I]subsequent[/I] to Titor's posts (interestingly) and it scares the hell out of me knowing that their presence is concentrated [I]in these most recent years. [/I]And yes, there is at least one here [I]"[/I]now[I]."[/I] I will close this post, not with an answer, but with a question. A question that, if followed to its logical conclusion, should lead you to a wider understanding of the Titor posts and Time Travel in general: [CENTER][I][B]"Why was A Time Traveler's Tale written and published?"[/B][/I][/CENTER] [LEFT] [/LEFT] [LEFT]Ask this question of yourself and you will have taken the first step away from the safe harbor of Titor's posts and into deeper water of what it all means...[/LEFT] [/QUOTE]
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