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<blockquote data-quote="Chronodynamic Jim" data-source="post: 19247" data-attributes="member: 201"><p><strong>Re: Three Laws of Chronodynamics</strong></p><p></p><p>Warning, this is a long post.</p><p> </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"JRSpencer\")</div></p><p> </p><p>Yes.</p><p> </p><p>Now on to your story.</p><p> </p><p>I read your story and I'm afraid I failed to see the relevance to Third Law, but I'll subject it to the Laws anyway. Without all the plot and kibble, your story boils down to the following logical scenario: Alex attempts to prevent his death by sending Mike 30 years into the future in an attempt to warn himself. Putting aside the motivations and possible failings of this attempt, the Laws of Chronodynamics allow Alex to survive his death in only one way. To understand how, lets look at this story from a Chronodynamic viewpoint.</p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 10px"><em>Note: stationary observer here refers to a non-time-traveling observer.</em></span></strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>Lets look at the pertinant events of Alex's life in chronological order, that is the order in which they occur from the point of view of a stationary observer.</strong></p><p><strong>Alex is born. He grows up. He becomes a scientist. He becomes involved with the CIA in a project. A man named Mike approaches him and warns him of his death 30 years hence and gives him information with which to make money to build his own machine. Mike leaves. Alex evidently ignores Mikes advise since the story seems to indicate that he did not build his own machine with his ill gotten loot. 30 years pass during which Alex works on his machine or the CIA and hires a young assistant by the name of Mike. Alex travels to 2009 and learns of his death in 2005. Understandably upset Alex travels to 2005 to witness his death, whereupon he sees himself get shot. He then goes back to his original starting point, March 16, 2005. He tells Mike about what happened and sends him to 1975 to warn himself. Mike returns seconds before he leaves and declares "Mission Accomplished!" Or is it? Alex recognises Mike as the same Mike from 1975 that tried to warn him of this very situation. He realizes that it will do no good because he never heeded the warning. with this new found understanding Alex waits 9 days, buys a flack jacket and sets himself up to get shot by the CIA. As the deed is done he is happy to see his twin watching from some nearby bushes in horror. With both his twin and the CIA gone, he and Mike take the time machine and go on adventures through time, never to return to their own, thus assuring that Mike turn up missing and Alex presumed dead.</strong></p><p><strong>This retelling is self consistant if followed from the individual time traveler's points-of-view. Cause always led to effect, though from a stationary point-of-view it may seem slightly convoluted.</strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p> <strong></strong></p><p><strong>I hope this answered some of your points, or questions. I also hope it raised others. Feel free to ask for clarification on anything as I tend to be wordy. Though you may just want to ask lucidus, somehow he tends to explain my Laws better than I do.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chronodynamic Jim, post: 19247, member: 201"] [b]Re: Three Laws of Chronodynamics[/b] Warning, this is a long post. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"JRSpencer\")</div> Yes. Now on to your story. I read your story and I'm afraid I failed to see the relevance to Third Law, but I'll subject it to the Laws anyway. Without all the plot and kibble, your story boils down to the following logical scenario: Alex attempts to prevent his death by sending Mike 30 years into the future in an attempt to warn himself. Putting aside the motivations and possible failings of this attempt, the Laws of Chronodynamics allow Alex to survive his death in only one way. To understand how, lets look at this story from a Chronodynamic viewpoint. [b][SIZE=2][i]Note: stationary observer here refers to a non-time-traveling observer.[/i][/SIZE] [i][size=1][/size][/i] Lets look at the pertinant events of Alex's life in chronological order, that is the order in which they occur from the point of view of a stationary observer. Alex is born. He grows up. He becomes a scientist. He becomes involved with the CIA in a project. A man named Mike approaches him and warns him of his death 30 years hence and gives him information with which to make money to build his own machine. Mike leaves. Alex evidently ignores Mikes advise since the story seems to indicate that he did not build his own machine with his ill gotten loot. 30 years pass during which Alex works on his machine or the CIA and hires a young assistant by the name of Mike. Alex travels to 2009 and learns of his death in 2005. Understandably upset Alex travels to 2005 to witness his death, whereupon he sees himself get shot. He then goes back to his original starting point, March 16, 2005. He tells Mike about what happened and sends him to 1975 to warn himself. Mike returns seconds before he leaves and declares "Mission Accomplished!" Or is it? Alex recognises Mike as the same Mike from 1975 that tried to warn him of this very situation. He realizes that it will do no good because he never heeded the warning. with this new found understanding Alex waits 9 days, buys a flack jacket and sets himself up to get shot by the CIA. As the deed is done he is happy to see his twin watching from some nearby bushes in horror. With both his twin and the CIA gone, he and Mike take the time machine and go on adventures through time, never to return to their own, thus assuring that Mike turn up missing and Alex presumed dead. This retelling is self consistant if followed from the individual time traveler's points-of-view. Cause always led to effect, though from a stationary point-of-view it may seem slightly convoluted. I hope this answered some of your points, or questions. I also hope it raised others. Feel free to ask for clarification on anything as I tend to be wordy. Though you may just want to ask lucidus, somehow he tends to explain my Laws better than I do.[/b] [/QUOTE]
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