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<blockquote data-quote="Opmmur" data-source="post: 53371" data-attributes="member: 13"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 15px">Great Thunderbird’s of the Southwest</span></strong></p><p> </p><p>Sightings of a giant bird, as recent as 2008, have been part of the history of the Southwest for thousands of years. The Native American peoples have always referred to this giant creature as the Thunderbird, a magical animal sent by their gods to protect them from the powers of evil. Riding on the wings of the storm, the Thunderbird embodied the power of the storm. Its eyes flashed fire, its cry was like the crack of lightning, and its mighty wings beat with the sound of rolling thunder, ever protecting its people from the powers of evil.</p><p> </p><p>Petroglyphs (rock art) created by Native American artists all over the Southwest, capture the Thunderbird’s image, sometimes in immense scale. For example, in Grand Valley of Colorado, just below the edge of the Grand Mesa above the town of Palisade, there is a natural light colored cliff in the trees that has the shape of the great Thunderbird (whether natural or carved by the hand of man, who can say). Below this, even more rarely seen, is a slender, serpent like chute that flows down the side of the mesa.</p><p> </p><p>According to local Ute Indian legend, great Thunderbirds ruled the skies and lived atop the Grand Mesa. One day they stole some children from the Ute village. Outraged, the warriors climbed to the top of the mesa to rescue the children. Sadly, they found that the children had been eaten. In retribution, the warriors threw the Thunderbird eggs into the valley below. When the Thunderbirds returned and found their nests empty, they looked down and found their eggs had been devoured by the great serpent [probably a reference to the snake-like shape of the Colorado River that can be seen from atop the mesa]. The birds swooped down and snatched up the snake and flew with it high over the mesa. Amidst a raging storm, the birds ripped the serpent to pieces and threw the electrified pieces all across the mesa, which created the huge scar on the landscape. The Thunderbirds wept for their young and their tears filled the gouges, thus forming the dozens of lakes that today dot the top of the Mesa. Even today, when the wind blows from a certain direction, people say you can hear the wail of the Thunderbirds as their mourn their lost young.</p><p> </p><p>Scientists feel fairly confident that the ancient Native Americans really did see a large bird called a Giant Condor. It lived over 10,000 years ago, and it is possible that stories of this giant bird have passed down from generation to generation. Could Giant Condors still exists? It is certainly possible, since many areas of the Southwest remain extremely remote and almost completely unexplored.</p><p> </p><p>This does not, however, explain the 1890 encounter. In April of 1890, two cowboys supposedly killed one of these great birds in Arizona and dragged it to town. Legend says it had featherless wings and a face like an alligator. In a story that appeared in the <em>Tombstone Epitaph</em> on April 26, 1890, the creature’s wingspan was 160 feet, the body was 92 feet long and 50 inches around the middle, and the head was eight feet long. Curiously, one wonders how the cowboys managed to drag this gigantic carcass to town with nothing but their two horses. Sounds like a tall tale, especially since the photograph that was supposedly taken at the time is missing.</p><p> </p><p>It is interesting that reports of giant raptor-like bird continue in modern times. Sightings have taken place from Texas to New Mexico and into parts of Arizona. In 1972, in Maxwell, New Mexico, a witness reported seeing what he thought was a pterodactyl flying out of an arroyo.</p><p>Could these cowboys and modern day witness have killed or seen a species of dinosaur; an animal long thought extinct, like a pterodactyl, perhaps. Fossilized pterodactyls with a wingspan of 23 feet have been found, and it is estimated that some of them may have attained a wingspan of 40 feet or more! That would explain the alligator head and featherless wings of the 1890 creature. Since humans are still exploring our world, and we are discovering new species every day, especially in our oceans, we won’t rule out the possibility.</p><p> </p><p>In more recent times (as recent as 2008), sightings of a bird, all black with stooped shoulders, and much larger than a human, have been seen from the Rio Grande Valley to the mountains of New Mexico. One man saw two birds sitting on a ledge in the Dona Ana Mountains near Las Cruces, New Mexico. The story says that the birds were so huge they looked like small planes. When one leaped from the ledge and soared down the face of the mountain, the witness swears it had a wingspan of 20 feet and pink-bald head and all-black feathered body. He’d never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience hiking and fossil hunting in the area. So what are people seeing?</p><p> </p><p>California Condors have been successfully reintroduced to the Grand Canyon. California Condors are large, black vultures with patches of white on the underside of the wings and stooped shoulders. They have a bald head with skin color ranging from yellow to red, depending on the bird’s mood. Condors have a wingspan on 9.5 feet and can weigh up to 20 pounds. It is possible that the creatures, from time to time, follow the Mogollon Rim and mountain chains into New Mexico and Texas in search of food. Or there may be pockets of native condors left in the remote regions of New Mexico.</p><p> </p><p>Yet another possibility is the Andean Condor. Native to Argentina, Chili, Bolivia, Columbia, Peru and Ecuador, Andean Condors have roughly the same appearance as California Condors and are about the same size, with a wingspan slightly longer at 10 feet and body weight up to 30 pounds. Is it possible that some of the birds fly north through Mexico to the southwestern United States in search of new territory? Again, we won’t rule out the possibility.</p><p> </p><p>No matter what the Thunderbird was or is, its story has become firmly fixed in the legends of the Southwest. When you hear the roll of thunder and watch lightning stab to the earth, remember that somewhere up in the clouds may be the giant bird of legend.</p><p> </p><p>He is the Great One Eyed Bird Who Rides on the Clouds of the Storm Whose Voice is Thunder and a Glance of his Eye is Lightning. He is the Great Winged Power From the Place Where the Sun Goes Down.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Opmmur, post: 53371, member: 13"] [B][SIZE=4]Great Thunderbird’s of the Southwest[/SIZE][/B] Sightings of a giant bird, as recent as 2008, have been part of the history of the Southwest for thousands of years. The Native American peoples have always referred to this giant creature as the Thunderbird, a magical animal sent by their gods to protect them from the powers of evil. Riding on the wings of the storm, the Thunderbird embodied the power of the storm. Its eyes flashed fire, its cry was like the crack of lightning, and its mighty wings beat with the sound of rolling thunder, ever protecting its people from the powers of evil. Petroglyphs (rock art) created by Native American artists all over the Southwest, capture the Thunderbird’s image, sometimes in immense scale. For example, in Grand Valley of Colorado, just below the edge of the Grand Mesa above the town of Palisade, there is a natural light colored cliff in the trees that has the shape of the great Thunderbird (whether natural or carved by the hand of man, who can say). Below this, even more rarely seen, is a slender, serpent like chute that flows down the side of the mesa. According to local Ute Indian legend, great Thunderbirds ruled the skies and lived atop the Grand Mesa. One day they stole some children from the Ute village. Outraged, the warriors climbed to the top of the mesa to rescue the children. Sadly, they found that the children had been eaten. In retribution, the warriors threw the Thunderbird eggs into the valley below. When the Thunderbirds returned and found their nests empty, they looked down and found their eggs had been devoured by the great serpent [probably a reference to the snake-like shape of the Colorado River that can be seen from atop the mesa]. The birds swooped down and snatched up the snake and flew with it high over the mesa. Amidst a raging storm, the birds ripped the serpent to pieces and threw the electrified pieces all across the mesa, which created the huge scar on the landscape. The Thunderbirds wept for their young and their tears filled the gouges, thus forming the dozens of lakes that today dot the top of the Mesa. Even today, when the wind blows from a certain direction, people say you can hear the wail of the Thunderbirds as their mourn their lost young. Scientists feel fairly confident that the ancient Native Americans really did see a large bird called a Giant Condor. It lived over 10,000 years ago, and it is possible that stories of this giant bird have passed down from generation to generation. Could Giant Condors still exists? It is certainly possible, since many areas of the Southwest remain extremely remote and almost completely unexplored. This does not, however, explain the 1890 encounter. In April of 1890, two cowboys supposedly killed one of these great birds in Arizona and dragged it to town. Legend says it had featherless wings and a face like an alligator. In a story that appeared in the [I]Tombstone Epitaph[/I] on April 26, 1890, the creature’s wingspan was 160 feet, the body was 92 feet long and 50 inches around the middle, and the head was eight feet long. Curiously, one wonders how the cowboys managed to drag this gigantic carcass to town with nothing but their two horses. Sounds like a tall tale, especially since the photograph that was supposedly taken at the time is missing. It is interesting that reports of giant raptor-like bird continue in modern times. Sightings have taken place from Texas to New Mexico and into parts of Arizona. In 1972, in Maxwell, New Mexico, a witness reported seeing what he thought was a pterodactyl flying out of an arroyo. Could these cowboys and modern day witness have killed or seen a species of dinosaur; an animal long thought extinct, like a pterodactyl, perhaps. Fossilized pterodactyls with a wingspan of 23 feet have been found, and it is estimated that some of them may have attained a wingspan of 40 feet or more! That would explain the alligator head and featherless wings of the 1890 creature. Since humans are still exploring our world, and we are discovering new species every day, especially in our oceans, we won’t rule out the possibility. In more recent times (as recent as 2008), sightings of a bird, all black with stooped shoulders, and much larger than a human, have been seen from the Rio Grande Valley to the mountains of New Mexico. One man saw two birds sitting on a ledge in the Dona Ana Mountains near Las Cruces, New Mexico. The story says that the birds were so huge they looked like small planes. When one leaped from the ledge and soared down the face of the mountain, the witness swears it had a wingspan of 20 feet and pink-bald head and all-black feathered body. He’d never seen anything like it in his 30 years of experience hiking and fossil hunting in the area. So what are people seeing? California Condors have been successfully reintroduced to the Grand Canyon. California Condors are large, black vultures with patches of white on the underside of the wings and stooped shoulders. They have a bald head with skin color ranging from yellow to red, depending on the bird’s mood. Condors have a wingspan on 9.5 feet and can weigh up to 20 pounds. It is possible that the creatures, from time to time, follow the Mogollon Rim and mountain chains into New Mexico and Texas in search of food. Or there may be pockets of native condors left in the remote regions of New Mexico. Yet another possibility is the Andean Condor. Native to Argentina, Chili, Bolivia, Columbia, Peru and Ecuador, Andean Condors have roughly the same appearance as California Condors and are about the same size, with a wingspan slightly longer at 10 feet and body weight up to 30 pounds. Is it possible that some of the birds fly north through Mexico to the southwestern United States in search of new territory? Again, we won’t rule out the possibility. No matter what the Thunderbird was or is, its story has become firmly fixed in the legends of the Southwest. When you hear the roll of thunder and watch lightning stab to the earth, remember that somewhere up in the clouds may be the giant bird of legend. He is the Great One Eyed Bird Who Rides on the Clouds of the Storm Whose Voice is Thunder and a Glance of his Eye is Lightning. He is the Great Winged Power From the Place Where the Sun Goes Down. [/QUOTE]
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