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<blockquote data-quote="dimension-1hacker" data-source="post: 189351" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>an infinite amount of causes can't cause themselves therefore there has to be an unmovable mover, yet that thing needs a cause. only if the properties of an object cause it to be able to interact with other objects can anything move. objects are defined by their properties therefor are not apart from the objects therefor not requiring movement to be a property. The everything that is an object needs to inherently be able to interact in a way that is a cause of itself not based of causes causing the cause. something I and maybe we don't understand the concept yet, just the opposite.</p><p></p><p>correct me if you view these statements to be logically incorrect.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dimension-1hacker, post: 189351, member: 11791"] an infinite amount of causes can't cause themselves therefore there has to be an unmovable mover, yet that thing needs a cause. only if the properties of an object cause it to be able to interact with other objects can anything move. objects are defined by their properties therefor are not apart from the objects therefor not requiring movement to be a property. The everything that is an object needs to inherently be able to interact in a way that is a cause of itself not based of causes causing the cause. something I and maybe we don't understand the concept yet, just the opposite. correct me if you view these statements to be logically incorrect. [/QUOTE]
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