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<blockquote data-quote="SinisterThinking" data-source="post: 197678" data-attributes="member: 12714"><p>Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty?</p><p></p><p><strong>It would not be an argument that Jesus would entertain.The promotion of punishment is not part of the nature of Jesus</strong>.</p><p></p><p>Christians seem to think that Jesus took the punishment for sinners with his sacrifice/suicide on the cross. IOW, Christians see Jesus as asking Christians to abdicate their responsibility for their own sins and punishments.</p><p></p><p><strong>You're just pidgeon holing your assumptions of all Christians. That's poor logic. Especially in this case. The primary(worldview) reason for Christ's crucifiction is a result of a crime against the populous. Nowhere in the canon does it say that people should ignore or abdicate their responsibilities. If fact, even a cursory reading would show that He opposes that behavior.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>These quotes are what I think Jesus would have taught on this issue, him being a Jewish Rabbi.</p><p></p><p>Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.</p><p></p><p>Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.</p><p></p><p>Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him:</p><p></p><p><strong>Absolutely true. The nature of God repeatedly shows throughout the Bible. There is no indication that Jesus(being God et. al) would sway from Old Testament nature.</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>yet Christians are doing just that in trying to use Jesus as their scapegoat.</p><p></p><p><strong>Once again, don't presume all... You may be surprised by what you find. Christianity should never be an excuse, ever.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SinisterThinking, post: 197678, member: 12714"] Would Jesus promote punishing the innocent instead of the guilty? [B]It would not be an argument that Jesus would entertain.The promotion of punishment is not part of the nature of Jesus[/B]. Christians seem to think that Jesus took the punishment for sinners with his sacrifice/suicide on the cross. IOW, Christians see Jesus as asking Christians to abdicate their responsibility for their own sins and punishments. [B]You're just pidgeon holing your assumptions of all Christians. That's poor logic. Especially in this case. The primary(worldview) reason for Christ's crucifiction is a result of a crime against the populous. Nowhere in the canon does it say that people should ignore or abdicate their responsibilities. If fact, even a cursory reading would show that He opposes that behavior.[/B] These quotes are what I think Jesus would have taught on this issue, him being a Jewish Rabbi. Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin. Psa 49;7 None of them can by any means redeem his brother, nor give to God a ransom for him: [B]Absolutely true. The nature of God repeatedly shows throughout the Bible. There is no indication that Jesus(being God et. al) would sway from Old Testament nature.[/B] yet Christians are doing just that in trying to use Jesus as their scapegoat. [B]Once again, don't presume all... You may be surprised by what you find. Christianity should never be an excuse, ever.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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