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<blockquote data-quote="Ralan" data-source="post: 235570" data-attributes="member: 35"><p>[wayback="20041112204255"]http://timetravelforum.net:80/library/index.php?showtopic=86[/wayback]</p><p></p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20041112204255/http://timetravelforum.net:80/library/index.php?showtopic=86" target="_blank">The Time Travel Library</a></p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="Text-only version"]</p><p>The Time Travel Library! The world's largest archive of time travel information available on the Internet.</p><p>IPB</p><p>The Time Travel Library</p><p>HelpSearchMembersCalendar</p><p>Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )</p><p></p><p>> Time Travel Library > Time Travel Hoaxers > Peragro Hoax > Malic and THE END</p><p> </p><p>Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll</p><p>Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+</p><p>> Malic's Introductory Posts</p><p></p><p>Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic</p><p>Ralan post Nov 2 2004, 04:39 PM</p><p>Post #1</p><p></p><p></p><p>Member</p><p>**</p><p></p><p>Group: Librarian</p><p>Posts: 13</p><p>Joined: 27-September 04</p><p>From: England, UK</p><p>Member No.: 7</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Oct 30 2004, 07:32 PM</p><p></p><p>Let's start by saying I have an unoffical youth hostile in my basement. I let people rent it out for $10 a night.</p><p></p><p>I'm not going to get into details just yet, but let's just say I found this site after finding some strange stuff that a guest of mine left behind a while back. This dude was strange when he was here and even stranger now that he is gone for good.</p><p></p><p>I have an email account that I let people use when they need to email people and don't have an account themselves. I never use this account for anything, in fact last week was the first time I have logged into it in like a year. I found emails from people asking if I was a time traveller, etc... there was nothing from 'peragro' because all the emails are deleted every 30 days.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, that lead me here. Maybe I can help you out... I doubt the guy was a time traveller, lol. Probably more like someone with schizophrenia that really believed what he said.</p><p></p><p>Was Peragro’s name Jason Greene?</p><p></p><p>Oct 30 2004, 07:52 PM</p><p></p><p>Yes, he did say his name was Jason.</p><p></p><p>Would you please tell us what you know about Peragro?</p><p></p><p>Chat log: October 30, PM</p><p></p><p>Malic: Malic3000</p><p></p><p></p><p>QUOTE</p><p>(6:42:14 PM) You have just entered room "malic3000."</p><p>(6:42:15 PM) Malic3000 has entered the room.</p><p>Malic3000 (6:42:21 PM): k, i guess it worked</p><p>TheHeggy (6:42:39 PM): LOL</p><p>TheHeggy (6:42:42 PM): See? Easy</p><p>TheHeggy (6:43:06 PM): I'm emailing Sue to get her in here. She left right before you posted your screen name LOL</p><p>Malic3000 (6:43:17 PM): k</p><p>TheHeggy (6:44:10 PM): BRB</p><p>TheHeggy (6:45:24 PM): Okay, back</p><p>TheHeggy (6:45:41 PM): Can you tell me what Peragro looked like?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:46:11 PM): long hair, white, in his 20's</p><p>(6:46:33 PM) cindymaylong has entered the room.</p><p>(5:48:11 PM) You have just entered room "malic3000."</p><p>TheHeggy (5:48:15 PM): Hi Snow</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:48:17 PM): hello</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:48:27 PM): and hello malic</p><p>TheHeggy (5:48:29 PM): What color hair did he have?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:48:29 PM): hi</p><p>Malic3000 (5:48:39 PM): dark</p><p>TheHeggy (5:48:40 PM): I just asked him what Peragro looked like Snow</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:48:45 PM): so you think you knew our peragroo eh?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:48:55 PM): yep, 99% sure</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:49:00 PM): how tall was he?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:49:15 PM): probably around 6 foot (same as me)</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:49:27 PM): ok so tell us about him</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:49:34 PM): the jason person that you knew</p><p>Malic3000 (5:49:56 PM): he only stayed with me for a few days and was always on the computer</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:50:25 PM): where was this place locted</p><p>Malic3000 (5:50:32 PM): i pretty much left him alone and he left me alone</p><p>Malic3000 (5:50:38 PM): im in springfield MO</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:50:41 PM): and which time what days was he with you</p><p>Malic3000 (5:50:45 PM): it was at my old house</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:51:00 PM): where is your new house?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:51:10 PM): not sure what days of the week, but it was like 6 months ago i guess</p><p>Malic3000 (5:51:19 PM): im still in springfield</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:51:47 PM): so heleft yourplace to live somewhere else</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:51:51 PM): do you knw where that was?</p><p>TheHeggy (5:51:57 PM): What were your impressions of Jason?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:52:31 PM): I don't have any idea where he was going. He said he was going to meet someone in springfield and then they would go on a road trip</p><p>Malic3000 (5:52:46 PM): Like I said, he was weird</p><p>TheHeggy (5:53:01 PM): Did he have strange habits or somthing?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:53:02 PM): describe weird</p><p>Malic3000 (5:53:33 PM): didnt know how to dress, no offense to anyone that shops at walmart.... but everything he had on looked like he just bought it at walmart</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:54:01 PM): walmart again</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:54:05 PM): sigh</p><p>Malic3000 (5:54:12 PM): ?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:54:13 PM): sorry malic private joke</p><p>Malic3000 (5:54:20 PM): oh</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:54:27 PM): seems all tts reference to walmart</p><p>Malic3000 (5:54:36 PM): ok, target then... lol</p><p>TheHeggy (5:54:44 PM): Did he talk about his homelife?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:54:47 PM): the joke is that walmart sponsors tt in the future</p><p>Malic3000 (5:54:57 PM): nope</p><p>Malic3000 (5:55:25 PM): he asked me for money before he left, didnt give him any, but yeah</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:55:28 PM): did he have any friends that you met?</p><p>TheHeggy (5:55:30 PM): Did you like him? And why?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:55:51 PM): nope and i didnt like him or dislike him</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:56:06 PM): ok the emails you have received that are to him</p><p>Malic3000 (5:56:07 PM): just kind of a bum</p><p>TheHeggy (5:56:11 PM): LOL</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:56:24 PM): where are they originating from and are of them more than just are you a tt type emails</p><p>Malic3000 (5:56:56 PM): not really, i deleted most of them...</p><p>Malic3000 (5:57:03 PM): mixed in with the spam</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:57:17 PM): did you save any of them?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:57:18 PM): ******@fastmail.fm is the email</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:57:46 PM): ok so he was a bum with no money?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:57:48 PM): no, most of them were private messages at another website and it was down</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:58:01 PM): ok that does make sense</p><p>TheHeggy (5:58:01 PM): Do you think he was a runaway of just some bum?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:58:15 PM): too old to be a runaway</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:58:21 PM): how old?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:58:27 PM): i would say 25</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (5:58:48 PM): have you seen him since?</p><p>Malic3000 (5:59:16 PM): nope, the last time i saw him i took him to taco bell and dropped him off</p><p>TheHeggy (5:59:54 PM): Was he dirty and bummy looking, unshaven? Or somewhat clean?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:00:06 PM): so you dont really know who he was or where he came from or who his friends were or where he went when he left your place and you have never seen him again</p><p>Malic3000 (6:00:12 PM): he left a bag at my house with almost nothing but tourist stuff in it... pamplets to silver dollar city, fantastic caverns, bass pro... type stuff</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:00:31 PM): he left a bag?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:00:36 PM): anything else</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:00:49 PM): any letters notes id</p><p>Malic3000 (6:00:55 PM): yeah</p><p>Malic3000 (6:01:13 PM): reciepts (sp?) and stuff</p><p>TheHeggy (6:01:24 PM): Was he dirty and bummy looking, unshaven? Or somewhat clean?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:01:35 PM): clean i guess... but long hair</p><p>Malic3000 (6:01:43 PM): to his shoulders</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:02:02 PM): did he seem educated or no?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:02:03 PM): he screwed up my VCR while he was here</p><p>TheHeggy (6:02:14 PM): Did you get that he was intelligent? Or do you think he was addicted to drugs and alcohol?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:02:36 PM): he seemed really smart, just kind of a geek ya know?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:02:52 PM): how did he mess up your vxr?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:03:09 PM): sorry to pounding you with questions by the way</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:03:20 PM): peragro is a high interest character to me</p><p>TheHeggy (6:03:25 PM): We're just curious is all <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Malic3000 (6:03:28 PM): to this day i dont know... its still in a box, just turn it on and get a blue screen... buttons dont work</p><p>Malic3000 (6:03:47 PM): in a box cause i moved, not cause it is new</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:03:56 PM): do you think he took it apart or what?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:04:07 PM): maybe, who knows</p><p>TheHeggy (6:04:38 PM): How often did he use it?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:04:40 PM): do you still have that bag?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:04:45 PM): i am interested in dates</p><p>Malic3000 (6:04:45 PM): and i know he printed stuff off the internet because i had to get new ink once he left... but i never heard him print anything</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:04:59 PM): and particularly interested in getting you to zero in on when he stayed with you</p><p>Malic3000 (6:05:27 PM): just a sec</p><p>Malic3000 (6:06:20 PM): k... i got the bag</p><p>Malic3000 (6:06:41 PM): there is a gas station receipt for may 27</p><p>Malic3000 (6:06:50 PM): 12:12am</p><p>Malic3000 (6:06:59 PM): $12.22</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:07:10 PM): please just detail to me everything that is inthere if you dont mind</p><p>TheHeggy (6:07:30 PM): Cash or credit card?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:07:53 PM): receipt for: gas station, gas station, steak out, papa johns, walmart, barnes and noble</p><p>Malic3000 (6:08:02 PM): cash for all</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:08:09 PM): dates</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:08:18 PM): anything passed 5/31</p><p>Malic3000 (6:08:41 PM): may 27, 27, 27, 28, 29, 25</p><p>TheHeggy (6:08:49 PM): What book did he buy?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:09:22 PM): siddhartha</p><p>Malic3000 (6:09:33 PM): "Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse "</p><p>TheHeggy (6:10:38 PM): Siddhartha is about buddism</p><p>Malic3000 (6:10:46 PM): i guess</p><p>TheHeggy (6:10:49 PM): About attaining inner peace and a higher conciousness</p><p>TheHeggy (6:11:11 PM): You may have already answered this: How long did he stay with you?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:11:27 PM): i think it was 3 days... might be wrong though</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:11:44 PM): ok i really need you to zero in on the time</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:12:06 PM): did he have that food delivered while he was at your place or was that before he stayed with you</p><p>Malic3000 (6:12:14 PM): i dont keep records of who stays with me... the receipts are the best i can do</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:12:31 PM): yes but maybe something will jog in your memory</p><p>Malic3000 (6:12:38 PM): not sure, people ordered food to my house like every night</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:12:38 PM): sorry</p><p>TheHeggy (6:12:52 PM): Did he say where he was going when you dropped him off? What kind of conversations did you have with him?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:12:54 PM): may i hypnotize you? just kidding</p><p>Malic3000 (6:13:07 PM): you guys dont seriously think he was a time traveller do you? lol... no offense</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:13:27 PM): well - so far you have said one thing to make me think he COULDNT be</p><p>TheHeggy (6:13:28 PM): We're not sure. I'm skeptical but asking questions is how you find out the truth</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:13:36 PM): but i am seriously trying to find out</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:13:49 PM): we just want the truth</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:14:07 PM): he is the only one of ours that has actually followed through on what he said he would od and send</p><p>Malic3000 (6:14:23 PM): what did he send you?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:14:30 PM): he didnt send it to me</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:14:43 PM): but dl sscard map to acave</p><p>Malic3000 (6:14:51 PM): eh?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:15:07 PM): if you have read his thread you will know that he stated he had a false identity</p><p>TheHeggy (6:15:07 PM): A map to a cave and a drivers liscence</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:15:15 PM): and apparetly he did have a false identity</p><p>Malic3000 (6:15:27 PM): i didnt read the whole thing... there was a lot</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:15:58 PM): do you know anyone named rachel taht may have had contact with jason?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:16:02 PM): and i knew that... i hjust didnt get the "dl" part</p><p>Malic3000 (6:16:19 PM): my friends ex is named rachel</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:16:20 PM): he also sent film but it didnt develope</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:16:40 PM): did she live or was she around when he was?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:17:09 PM): she was probably here once or twice... they broke up about a month ago... up till then she was here a lot</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:17:27 PM): does she work at a motel?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:17:31 PM): or did she?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:17:55 PM): she used to be a waitress at the resturant in one</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:18:04 PM): mind saying which one?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:18:21 PM): Sheraton</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:18:39 PM): did she have access to a fax machine at your house or at work?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:18:48 PM): i had one</p><p>Malic3000 (6:19:07 PM): still have it... but no phone line</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:19:36 PM): i think one of us has the phone number that fax came from</p><p>TheHeggy (6:19:43 PM): Did you ever have any conversations with this guy?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:19:53 PM): do you have the number of yours previosuly and do you mind sharing it?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:20:06 PM): yeah of course... just never got personal is all</p><p>Malic3000 (6:20:49 PM): i dont really remember the number... i could find out if i really had to</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:21:16 PM): you say he was weird - please try to pin down the reasons you thought this = like the dressing - anything abouthis speech? anything about his questions? anything about his accent?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:21:45 PM): you dont have to malic - but it would be greatly appreciated as a piece of the puzzle - the fax number that is</p><p>Malic3000 (6:21:59 PM): no... he was just a quiet shy guy... most people that are willing to stay in a hostile are normally friendly open people</p><p>Malic3000 (6:22:43 PM): and he was ALWAYS on my computer... nobody else got a chance while he was around</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:23:00 PM): he was int he middle of this story probably</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:23:10 PM): it can quite time consuming as you can see</p><p>Malic3000 (6:23:40 PM): i just saw his license on the forum... i dont think he was from texas</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:25:02 PM): by the way malic - my entire family lives in springfield except for me :-(</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:25:13 PM): so please save that bag - i may collect it someday</p><p>Malic3000 (6:25:26 PM): really? cool... k, its just a plastic bag</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:25:51 PM): Thanks! back to what came across as weird - anything else</p><p>Malic3000 (6:26:07 PM): Oh yeah! i just rememberd he left a ring here... my friend has it now</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:26:26 PM): is it unique in any way?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:26:39 PM): nope, just a little silver thing</p><p>Malic3000 (6:27:02 PM): and i just say weird because he was so shy</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:27:09 PM): think you could scan it for us? and post apic?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:27:36 PM): next time i talk to the guy that has it i will ask</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:27:55 PM): did he make any long distance calls on your phone?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:28:07 PM): maybe, i had free long distance</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:28:22 PM): do you save your old bills?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:28:35 PM): are numbers called listed?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:28:49 PM): nope, sorry... i didnt have detailed billing anyways</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:28:50 PM): i have a reason for asking beside pure nosiness</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:28:56 PM): ok</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:29:16 PM): he did place a call or two to epole on the forum</p><p>Malic3000 (6:29:27 PM): there might still be some stuff of his around... im not done unpacking yet</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:29:28 PM): i just thought if you could pick out the number</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:29:32 PM): we would know what date</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:29:38 PM): i am still trying to get to the dates</p><p>Malic3000 (6:30:06 PM): i know he used a payphone to call his dad a few times when i took him to the gas station</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:30:11 PM): so when he left did youknow you werent going to see him again or was it suddenly?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:30:21 PM): i knew he was leaving</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:30:22 PM): his dad</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:30:31 PM): any idea where his dad was?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:30:36 PM): nope</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:30:55 PM): sure it was his dad? did he say why he was calling his dad?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:31:22 PM): thats what he said... he called him and then his dad called him back</p><p>Malic3000 (6:31:30 PM): so he didnt have to pay</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:31:55 PM): ok</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:32:03 PM): you still with us heggy</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:32:06 PM): sorry to be hogging</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:32:36 PM): you say he had some touristy stuff in the bag</p><p>Malic3000 (6:32:41 PM): uh huh</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:32:56 PM): did he ever talk about caves to you?</p><p>TheHeggy (6:32:57 PM): I'm still here, just watching</p><p>TheHeggy (6:32:58 PM): LOL</p><p>Malic3000 (6:33:19 PM): nope, but he has a pamplet for fantastic caverns in here</p><p>Malic3000 (6:33:47 PM): i used to go caving though... was a speleology student at SMS</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:33:47 PM): any indication that he might have done any spilinking?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:34:07 PM): lol at spelling</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:34:11 PM): spelunking</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:34:25 PM): really do you know clay frisbie?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:34:26 PM): nope, im sure he would have said something.. my gear was downstairs when he was around</p><p>Malic3000 (6:34:37 PM): nope</p><p>Malic3000 (6:34:50 PM): it was a few years ago</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:34:57 PM): hes a caver just asking lol</p><p>Malic3000 (6:35:05 PM): havent been in a cave in about a year</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:35:34 PM): do you have any notes he may have had access to?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:35:45 PM): describing certain caves that are not public?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:36:11 PM): how far back does a computers history go back?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:36:20 PM): oh, me... yeah</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:36:45 PM): so he could have seen your notes and found out about the details of a certain cave?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:36:58 PM): do you have maps marked with cave locations?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:37:00 PM): yeah, i mapped caves for 6 months</p><p>Malic3000 (6:37:12 PM): i have topo maps all over the place</p><p>Malic3000 (6:37:36 PM): all in boxes right now</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:37:38 PM): that's very interesting</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:38:09 PM): you could get elected to check out a cave that my brother has failed to look at for us</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:38:18 PM): at this time i cant tell youthe name</p><p>Malic3000 (6:38:20 PM): which one?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:38:22 PM): oh</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:38:26 PM): im sworn to xecrecy lol</p><p>Malic3000 (6:38:32 PM): oh come on</p><p>Malic3000 (6:38:33 PM): lol</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:38:34 PM): its part of the story</p><p>Malic3000 (6:38:47 PM): ive probably been in every cave in greene county</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:39:08 PM): if you could list some unique cave name that he could have seen notes about would you just list them here?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:39:31 PM): Do you know Mr. *****?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:39:46 PM): dont know any *****</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:39:52 PM): sigh</p><p>Malic3000 (6:40:01 PM): i could list them... it would be about 100 names though</p><p>Malic3000 (6:40:02 PM): lol</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:40:02 PM): would you have gone to caves that are on private property?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:40:16 PM): hell, i might even have pics of it on my pc if you tell me which one</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:40:18 PM): haveyou gone to cave that are NOT on topo maps</p><p>Malic3000 (6:40:29 PM): yes, most are on private prop.</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:40:31 PM): i have tot have permission for that</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:40:40 PM): but believe me i will be asking</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:40:44 PM): for thepermission</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:40:58 PM): becasue if had acces to pics and descipts of caves at your house</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:41:04 PM): that is a big puzzle piece</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:42:13 PM): well i believe the description was public of glass like walls and scorch marks</p><p>Malic3000 (6:42:28 PM): brb</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:42:33 PM): ok</p><p>Malic3000 (6:44:00 PM): back</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:44:05 PM): k</p><p>Malic3000 (6:44:07 PM): i have pics of a few caves on my pc</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:44:15 PM): ok name them</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:44:24 PM): please</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:44:24 PM): lol</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:44:26 PM): im sorry</p><p>Malic3000 (6:45:09 PM): breakdown, fitzpatrik, fantastic, doiling, tumbling creek, crystal, riverbluff</p><p>Malic3000 (6:45:25 PM): and that doesnt include a cd i have of pics</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:45:40 PM): okit is none of those</p><p>Malic3000 (6:45:48 PM): what are the initals</p><p>Malic3000 (6:45:51 PM): lol</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:45:52 PM): **</p><p>Malic3000 (6:45:57 PM): ***********?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:46:25 PM): ***********?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:46:30 PM): ok i guess we could say you offically guessed it please dont post the name</p><p>Malic3000 (6:46:31 PM): *****l</p><p>Malic3000 (6:46:38 PM): which one?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:46:42 PM): first one</p><p>Malic3000 (6:46:55 PM): k, yes i have been there</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:47:04 PM): did you have readily available info on that cave laying around?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:47:07 PM): not sure if i have pics though</p><p>Malic3000 (6:47:39 PM): nope, its just a small cave.... the entrance sucks... straight down slide for about 20 feet and about 3 feet wide</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:47:54 PM): is there room for sphere in it?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:48:07 PM): one big room... about 100 feet by 75</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:48:10 PM): what were the walls like when you were there?</p><p>TheHeggy (6:48:12 PM): Woah</p><p>Malic3000 (6:48:41 PM): like every other cave... wet and cold</p><p>Malic3000 (6:48:46 PM): limestone</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:49:00 PM): if limestone gets really hot does it get glassy?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:49:28 PM): well the calcite looks shinny, so yeah i guess</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:49:29 PM): i dont know and dnt know if you know im jsut asking either of you</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:49:44 PM): when was the last time you were there?</p><p>TheHeggy (6:49:54 PM): I think any stone that gets heated enough will turn glassy</p><p>Malic3000 (6:50:01 PM): with my SMS class in 2003</p><p>Malic3000 (6:50:10 PM): probably a year ago</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:50:24 PM): so if you went there now and it had chnaged significantly you would be able to tell?</p><p>Malic3000 (6:50:56 PM): yeah, but i dont know the owners... and the guy that taught the class died in march</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:51:18 PM): are you my borhter?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:51:23 PM): just kidding</p><p>Malic3000 (6:51:25 PM): lol</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:51:38 PM): but my brother has tried to go in with permission and the guy wont call him</p><p>Malic3000 (6:52:07 PM): it wouldnt be too hard to get permission if i REALLY wanted to go</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:52:50 PM): i only want you to go if you will take pictures and post them and note any changes that have occured and look for artifacts or leavings</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:53:11 PM): otherwise i want you to leave it for my brother</p><p>Malic3000 (6:53:14 PM): it might be gated off now</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:53:22 PM): or i couldhave my brother call you and you could go together</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:53:30 PM): ;-)</p><p>Malic3000 (6:53:34 PM): either or</p><p>Malic3000 (6:53:50 PM): what is supposed to have changed?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:54:08 PM): the walls were supposed to ahve been affected by heat make them like glass</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:54:15 PM): scorch marks on the ground</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:54:27 PM): and he did make it sound like he might leave something there</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:54:36 PM): "by now you will have all the proof you need"</p><p>Malic3000 (6:55:01 PM): is he supposed to be a criminal?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:55:05 PM): no</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:55:14 PM): he isupposed to be a time traveler</p><p>Malic3000 (6:55:37 PM): what about the forged social security card?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:55:41 PM): criminality comes into play when you take into account the false identity</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:55:49 PM): which is definately verified as false</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:56:19 PM): he was supposedly given false id in his time to bring with him</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:56:38 PM): forged</p><p>Malic3000 (6:56:43 PM): why would they give him false id? if he is from the future couldnt he get a real one?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:57:06 PM): well as you can see they are as lose to real as you can get without being real</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:57:17 PM): the problem is the name on the ss card is not correct</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:57:35 PM): and noone with his dob and name has a texas drivers license</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:57:47 PM): the license is perfect in every detail</p><p>Malic3000 (6:58:08 PM): was the pic cut by you guys or him?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:58:16 PM): that i dont know us i think</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:58:28 PM): i think john did that</p><p>Malic3000 (6:58:30 PM): i could definitely identify him then</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:58:33 PM): not sure though</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:58:56 PM): yes but you really cant tell us anything to establish that he was hoaxing</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:59:14 PM): and there is still the possilbity that YOU ARE HIM</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (6:59:15 PM): lol</p><p>Malic3000 (6:59:23 PM): bum bum bum..... lol</p><p>Malic3000 (6:59:37 PM): i would think having him in my house would be proof enough</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:00:08 PM): in you rhouse for three days does not destroy his story</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:00:10 PM): i wish it did</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:00:14 PM): we could be done with it</p><p>Malic3000 (7:00:19 PM): he said he as in a hotel</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:00:37 PM): and he was interacting with us for more than three days</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:00:48 PM): so sme of it could be in hotel</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:00:52 PM): and cash went short</p><p>Malic3000 (7:01:00 PM): ic</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:01:09 PM): the call to his dad could have been a call to John</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:01:20 PM): ;-)</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:01:39 PM): just trying to put in perspective - we just want to know for sure</p><p>Malic3000 (7:01:43 PM): which one is john?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:01:57 PM): john is the owner of this forum and that is his nick</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:02:03 PM): it used to be satan</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:02:17 PM): so references to satan in the forum are john</p><p>Malic3000 (7:02:22 PM): k</p><p>TheHeggy (7:02:28 PM): I may have missed this, but I'll ask anyways</p><p>TheHeggy (7:02:34 PM): How did he find your hostile?</p><p>TheHeggy (7:02:42 PM): Is there an ad for it somewhere or something?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:03:09 PM): i had a sign outside</p><p>Malic3000 (7:03:30 PM): might of had an ad in the paper at the time</p><p>TheHeggy (7:04:09 PM): OKay, that</p><p>TheHeggy (7:04:13 PM): s what I figured</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:04:42 PM): forgive me but do youtake in homeless and runaway types?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:04:51 PM): is it a place for down and out?</p><p>TheHeggy (7:04:54 PM): I wish Jovial was on, she had some other questions</p><p>Malic3000 (7:05:14 PM): nope, its just for people passing through... mainly college kids</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:06:47 PM): in those receipts - did he sight see or just have pamplets</p><p>Malic3000 (7:07:02 PM): dont know</p><p>Malic3000 (7:07:12 PM): no receipts for any of these places</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:08:14 PM): when did you move?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:08:18 PM): just recently?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:08:21 PM): a few weeks ago</p><p>TheHeggy (7:08:43 PM): Where do you live now?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:08:44 PM): so you think when you finish unpakcing you may come up with other stuff that might pertain to peragro?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:09:01 PM): i forgot to mention that he told me about the future and predicted my life for me.... j/k </p><p>Malic3000 (7:09:07 PM): i live in an apartment</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:09:22 PM): so no more youth hositle</p><p>Malic3000 (7:09:25 PM): i dont know, there might be something in there</p><p>Malic3000 (7:09:27 PM): nope</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:10:12 PM): do you want go to the cave for us?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:10:32 PM): i could, not this weekend though</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:10:53 PM): no problem there we been waiting for months</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:11:15 PM): do me a favor inthe meantime</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:11:26 PM): if you can see ifyou have pics of **</p><p>Malic3000 (7:11:28 PM): ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:11:31 PM): k</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:11:36 PM): as it was a year ago</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:11:45 PM): and post a couple without the name</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:11:54 PM): for comparsion later</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:12:15 PM): another question</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:12:23 PM): do youmind if we post this log?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:12:27 PM): go ahead</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:12:36 PM): I'm not saying we definately will</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:12:40 PM): but we might</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:12:42 PM): <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>Malic3000 (7:12:43 PM): k</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:12:59 PM): sue is coming in</p><p>Malic3000 (7:13:10 PM): ok, which one is she?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:13:16 PM): sosuemetoo</p><p>(7:13:20 PM) sosuemetoo64 has entered the room.</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:13:34 PM): hi sue</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:13:46 PM): hey snow</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:13:51 PM): hey heggy</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:13:56 PM): hey malic</p><p>Malic3000 (7:14:09 PM): hi</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:14:14 PM): for sues benifit im going to tell her what we know so far</p><p>Malic3000 (7:14:19 PM): ok</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:14:46 PM): jason stayed with malic for three days - he did leave a few thing thatat inlcude</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:15:00 PM): receipts dated late may</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:15:14 PM): malic is spelunker</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:15:22 PM): okay</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:15:32 PM): so jason may have had access to cave desciptions while at malics</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:16:27 PM): malic knows no personal info - does not know where peragro came from</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:16:27 PM): alright</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:16:32 PM): where he was going</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:16:43 PM): if he had friends</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:16:45 PM): etc</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:16:53 PM): he has never seen peragro again</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:17:11 PM): he did take to a payphone acouple times to call his dad</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:17:12 PM): What dates are the receipts ?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:17:21 PM): his dad returned the call to the payphone</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:17:36 PM): sorry, keep going snow</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:17:41 PM): ( i think - is that what you told me amlic?)</p><p>Malic3000 (7:18:00 PM): yeah</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:18:21 PM): so he made a call and his dad called the payohne back? did you witness that?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:19:04 PM): yeah, i took him to the gas station</p><p>Malic3000 (7:19:10 PM): he didnt have a car</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:19:13 PM): i mean did you hear the phone ring</p><p>Malic3000 (7:19:21 PM): yep</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:19:24 PM): ok thaks</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:19:39 PM): now one thing i would like to go back to</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:20:13 PM): you said you could come up with that fax number you had - i would really really appreciate having that its could be a big piece</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:20:17 PM): of our puzzle</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:20:27 PM): oh and sue - malic knows a rachel</p><p>Malic3000 (7:20:30 PM): k... give me a sec</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:20:44 PM): she is the ex - girlfriend of his friend</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:20:58 PM): they broke up a month ago</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:21:09 PM): What did she look like Malic</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:21:12 PM): she did not work at a hotel</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:21:20 PM): but she watiress at the sheraton</p><p>Malic3000 (7:21:21 PM): ***-***-****</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:21:35 PM): ok thank you malic sue please record that for john</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:21:44 PM): Yes I will</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:21:49 PM): regarding the cave sue</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:22:02 PM): malic "guessed" the name from the initials</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:22:09 PM): Just a cursory look , this does match</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:22:28 PM): ok so the fax was sent by rachel from malics house</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:22:42 PM): now we know what date jason stayed with malic</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:22:57 PM): he has been to the cave a year ago</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:22:58 PM): okay</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:23:09 PM): he may have pics from them and he will look and post them if possible</p><p>Malic3000 (7:23:10 PM): okay, what about the fax? i missed that part</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:23:25 PM): that is the number that john received a fax from</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:23:31 PM): according to sue</p><p>Malic3000 (7:23:37 PM): oh</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:24:22 PM): I can't verify for sure Malic but just a cursory look, it matches</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:25:13 PM): so according to malic there is nothing remarkable about this cave but it is one large room</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:25:20 PM): Malic can you tell me what Rachel looks like ?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:25:23 PM): it did not have glass walls</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:25:40 PM): ok while sue gets to question i will break</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:25:46 PM): need air</p><p>Malic3000 (7:25:47 PM): she is a korean girl</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:26:14 PM): This description matches what Peragro told me.</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:26:20 PM): Of Rachel</p><p>Malic3000 (7:26:35 PM): lol, just mark him down as fake</p><p>Malic3000 (7:26:58 PM): rachel was never *with* him</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:27:23 PM): Well at this point I'm trying to verify that you either are Peragro or you knew peragro. You have to understand </p><p>Malic3000 (7:27:58 PM): gotcha</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:27:59 PM): Peragro never claimed to be "with" Rachel ... only that she was very nice, he liked her a lot and that she assisted him.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:28:22 PM): assisted him with what? i can call her right now</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:28:46 PM): I'd love it if you could get her on AIM right now Malic ... is that possible ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:29:13 PM): nope, she has no pc</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:29:31 PM): I was the one who was supposed to call the hotel to find her. Long story, I was never able to.</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:30:24 PM): She assisted him as far as faxes, helping him find places to eat, he felt comfortable with her and felt she was the only friend he had.</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:30:59 PM): Do you have the actual dates that he stayed with you Malic ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:31:46 PM): nope... i have rachel on the phone right now</p><p>Malic3000 (7:31:53 PM): she doesnt even know who i am talking about</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:32:17 PM): So she never did anything for him then ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:32:46 PM): apparently not, not if she doesnt even know him</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:33:09 PM): He must have met her somehow to have that name and her description.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:33:40 PM): well, they probably met at my house, but they didnt hang out</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:33:57 PM): Would you be willing to tell me about her employment ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:34:21 PM): she's pretty hot... he probably remembers her real well... you know? she blows guys off everyday</p><p>Malic3000 (7:34:29 PM): she doesnt work right now</p><p>Malic3000 (7:34:33 PM): she goes to scholl</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:34:49 PM): Yes, that's what Peragro said, she went to school</p><p>Malic3000 (7:35:03 PM): well, she doesnt work anymore</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:35:19 PM): did she work from May 1st until Memorial day weekend?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:35:29 PM): yeah</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:35:40 PM): could you tell me where? If not that is fine</p><p>Malic3000 (7:35:45 PM): sheraton</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:36:07 PM): in the motel ... Sheraton?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:36:18 PM): hotel... she was a waitress</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:36:42 PM): yes, and he ate there at the restaraunt</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:36:59 PM): She recommended Steak Out to him. </p><p>Malic3000 (7:37:27 PM): there is a steak out receipt here</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:37:31 PM): I'm telling you all of this because you have her on the phone with you</p><p>Malic3000 (7:37:39 PM): not anymore</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:37:46 PM): oh, I'm sorry</p><p>Malic3000 (7:37:53 PM): its fine</p><p>Malic3000 (7:37:58 PM): i dont think its the same girl</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:37:59 PM): Can you tell me the location of the Sheraton ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:38:05 PM): she would remember</p><p>Malic3000 (7:38:10 PM): its on glenstone</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:38:30 PM): city/state ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:38:35 PM): springfield mo</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:38:36 PM): lol</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:39:03 PM): I can verify that what Malic is saying is accurate.</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:39:19 PM): From my PM chats with Peragro</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:39:36 PM): Rachel may not remember, but Peragro did.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:39:46 PM): i guess</p><p>Malic3000 (7:39:48 PM): lol</p><p>Malic3000 (7:40:05 PM): do they not have females in the future?</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:40:11 PM): Can you tell me what Peragro looked like ? Age, that kind of thing</p><p>Malic3000 (7:40:39 PM): he was white, long hair, about 6 feet tall... glasses... etc...</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:42:02 PM): this matches what Peragro told me.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:42:24 PM): does this help his case or make it worse?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:42:53 PM): well - we are hoping to find something that throws the story in the ditch</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:42:54 PM): I'd like to know Malic how you felt about Peragro</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:42:57 PM): so far nothing</p><p>Malic3000 (7:43:12 PM): he was quiet, shy and weird</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:43:14 PM): Did you think that he was mentally ill</p><p>Malic3000 (7:43:17 PM): lol</p><p>Malic3000 (7:43:19 PM): haha</p><p>Malic3000 (7:43:21 PM): sorry</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:43:23 PM): there is always the possibility that you are actuallyperagro come back to enjoy his story some more</p><p>Malic3000 (7:44:14 PM): yeah, he could have been... thats why i laughed, when we first started chatting i said he was probably some mentally ill kid that believed everything he said</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:44:21 PM): I cant think of a good way to confirm that is not the case with out asking tons of persoanl info</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:44:27 PM): so i am not asking</p><p>Malic3000 (7:44:37 PM): im not him, i can tell you that much right now</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:44:42 PM): Did he seem paranoid to you.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:44:53 PM): yes, he never left the basement</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:45:05 PM): Anti social ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:45:08 PM): indeed</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:45:32 PM): Did he ever tell you where his father was located ?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:45:39 PM): nope</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:45:49 PM): Sorry, I know this sounds like an interrogation.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:46:00 PM): its fine</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:46:06 PM): he is used to it by now lol i have been interogating him for hours</p><p>Malic3000 (7:46:08 PM): he was probably a serial killer</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:46:12 PM): I do believe you are not peragro, I have my own reasons</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:46:24 PM): I believe you met him.</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:46:43 PM): why do you say he was probably a serial killer malic?</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:46:45 PM): I did not believe that he was necessarily a tt'er</p><p>Malic3000 (7:46:48 PM): just joking</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:46:59 PM): I believe he needed help</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:47:18 PM): and just for the record malic ... I stated that same thing ... I was worried for him.</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:47:32 PM): I want to know how a mentally ill person obtained perfectly forged ids?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:48:02 PM): probably the internet, just type fake id in google... i know plenty of people who got fake ids off the internet</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:48:22 PM): really . . .</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:48:36 PM): that's interesting</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:48:45 PM): howlong dies it take to obtain such things?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:49:09 PM): dont know... a few months</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:49:15 PM): Malic do you recall how long Peragro stayed with you or the dates, this will be very helpful.</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:49:18 PM): say fake missouri drivers license - you ahve seen these and they are perfect?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:50:03 PM): i take that back... they have them, but i would hardly say perfect</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:50:23 PM): ok</p><p>Malic3000 (7:50:25 PM): it was the end of may, like 3 days i think</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:51:04 PM): The dates and times are very important Malic</p><p>Malic3000 (7:51:27 PM): sorry, i dont keep records... just have the receipts he left</p><p>Malic3000 (7:51:38 PM): and if they didnt say, we have his ring too</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:51:55 PM): what about dates Malic beginning of may, end of may</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:51:58 PM): which you are goign to try get a scan of correct?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:52:31 PM): end of may, and yes</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:52:45 PM): describe the ring Malic</p><p>Malic3000 (7:52:55 PM): just not sure if it was the same time as the receipts... but logically speaking it probably was</p><p>Malic3000 (7:53:01 PM): just a silver ring</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:54:00 PM): okay, any thing on the ring ?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:54:18 PM): he canthave been ther before the dates on the receipts he left so logically it was the same time or after</p><p>Malic3000 (7:54:39 PM): my friend took the ring</p><p>Malic3000 (7:54:40 PM): he has it</p><p>Malic3000 (7:55:07 PM): so who is supposed to win on tuesday?</p><p>Malic3000 (7:55:18 PM): or did he not say</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:55:28 PM): depends on which TT you ask malic <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:55:35 PM): I don't recall what Peragro said about this</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:55:43 PM): me either</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:55:54 PM): but the best ones have said this an election like no other</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:56:00 PM): it will be a mess</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:56:05 PM): Malic, if everything you are saying is the truth, you need to know something.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:56:08 PM): i could have predicted that</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:56:20 PM): you couodnt have predicted it four years ago</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:56:43 PM): Peragro mentioned Rachel long before he stayed with you.</p><p>Malic3000 (7:57:31 PM): so what are you saying... he had some weird affair with her? lol</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:57:35 PM): No</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:57:50 PM): what I'm saying is...</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:58:06 PM): He somehow stayed at your home thru Rachel</p><p>Malic3000 (7:58:18 PM): then she is lying to me</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:58:19 PM): but it is possible she met him at work and gave him your place as a place to stay for his last few days</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:58:29 PM): No, Rachel is not lying to you at all</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:58:34 PM): well she may sincerely not remember too lol</p><p>Malic3000 (7:58:37 PM): ive known her for 3 years</p><p>Malic3000 (7:58:43 PM): who knows</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:58:56 PM): What he found significant and what she found significant were two different things</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (7:59:32 PM): did he pay for his stay with you?</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (7:59:50 PM): That is what I am saying. It's obvious that you had some feelings about Peragro being "weird" or offbalance</p><p>Malic3000 (7:59:55 PM): why wouldnt he just stay with his family if he was from the future? come hang out with himself when he was young</p><p>Malic3000 (8:00:13 PM): yeah $10 a night</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:00:24 PM): He said he didn't want to do that because it would affect his timeline, if I recall.</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:00:48 PM): and he was from 105 years in the future something like that</p><p>Malic3000 (8:00:58 PM): wow. guys... stop for a sec. and think logically... there is no way this guy was from the future</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:01:05 PM): not our normal JT wannabe</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:01:27 PM): I'm telling you this Malic on the basis that he is not a tt okay</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:01:35 PM): ok tell us why you beleive that im open</p><p>Malic3000 (8:01:43 PM): if there was time travel, we would know...</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:02:09 PM): hehe well according to him he was the first human</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:02:15 PM): test subject</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:02:21 PM): Yes, they sent a dog first</p><p>Malic3000 (8:02:24 PM): oh... where can i find all these logs?</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:03:01 PM): well in the library i have the most complete record so far of his posts</p><p>Malic3000 (8:03:04 PM): the site all the emails came from is down</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:03:22 PM): from the old site</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:03:59 PM): let me get you a link</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:04:18 PM): Malic , strange question, but what did Peragro like to eat ?</p><p>Malic3000 (8:04:54 PM): he has receipts for papa johns and steak out</p><p>Malic3000 (8:05:03 PM): and i dropped him off at taco bell</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:05:14 PM): <a href="http://timetravelforum.net/library/index.php?showforum=17" target="_blank">Time Travel Forum</a></p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:05:31 PM): Did he say where he was staying before he arrived at your place, or WHY he arrived at your place</p><p>Malic3000 (8:05:47 PM): nope and nope</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:08:24 PM): I'm not being critical here Malic ... but do you allow anyone to stay in your home? Did you have a recomendation of some kind for Peragro ?</p><p>Malic3000 (8:08:27 PM): what kind of plugin do i need to get for mozilla to work with your forum chat</p><p>Malic3000 (8:08:43 PM): nope, it was pretty much a hostile</p><p>Malic3000 (8:08:56 PM): it was normally college kids</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:09:17 PM): in the summer those might be scarce so you take others i know what it is liek</p><p>Malic3000 (8:10:28 PM): k guys, im going to eat in a minute.... so if you got anything else let em rip</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:10:31 PM): malic im confused why you have a network in an apartmetn - do you share?</p><p>Malic3000 (8:10:41 PM): yeah</p><p>Malic3000 (8:11:03 PM): i live on a golf course... kind of a nice place, free internet, cable, etc...</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:11:10 PM): i dont know the answer to your wustion above but i will find out</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:11:56 PM): i cant think of anything else for now but i hope you will allow us a follow up chat after we digest this</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:11:59 PM): and also</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:12:08 PM): i hopw you will look for the pics of that cave</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:12:27 PM): determine if he could have access to notes of yours about it</p><p>Malic3000 (8:12:35 PM): k, ill do that after i eat... ill hope back on here or the forum later</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:12:44 PM): and consider a follow up visit to the cave to see if it has changed</p><p>Malic3000 (8:13:09 PM): if you guys figure out what plugin mozilla needs, post it in the forum for me</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:13:22 PM): remember not to post the name of the cave before we have a chance for someone of us from the forum to check it out</p><p>Malic3000 (8:13:33 PM): k</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:13:33 PM): ok</p><p>Malic3000 (8:13:37 PM): talk to you guys later</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:13:44 PM): thanks for all your time</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:13:46 PM): been fun</p><p>Snow Fire Watches (8:13:51 PM): happy eating</p><p>sosuemetoo64 (8:13:52 PM): thanks Malic</p><p>(8:14:07 PM) Malic3000 has left the room.</p><p></p><p>Malic,</p><p>About your fastmail account, I have an account there as well, it unlike hotmail keeps a copy of every email you send. First Please send me a copy of an email he replied to and sent to me at a hotmail account around May with a secret word he and I decided upon. You won't be able to mistake it. No one knows it but he and I. This will, for me, validate your claim. You can send the above email to <a href="mailto:satan@timetravelforum.net">satan@timetravelforum.net</a>.</p><p></p><p>Also based on the unedited log you provided the wrong phone number.</p><p></p><p>Yesterday, 06:33 AM</p><p></p><p>John,</p><p></p><p>There are no emails from that long ago, it deletes everything every 30 days, there was nothing in a saved folder.</p><p></p><p>If I come across rude, I apologize, but I then have no way to validate your story. All of the information you have provided, with the exception of guessing the cave name, can be found in the archived threads. As for the cave name, if you are from the area or if you are in fact Peragro, you could easily guess this. As for your email address, fastmail deletes inactive accounts so you could have easily learned what the email address was that sent me the email and then re-registered it, since I am sure it hasn't been used since May. At this point I feel you are deceiving us.</p><p></p><p>November 1, 04:19 PM</p><p></p><p>Fine with me.</p><p></p><p>Have fun believing in time travellers.</p><p></p><p>Just the snide response I'd expect from a hoaxer attempting to prove that a potential time traveler is a hoax... especially when faced with opposition. This is a common reaction when hoaxers have planned out their story only to find it picked apart or shown for what it is. Point made.</p><p></p><p>November 1, 06:03 PM</p><p></p><p>The problem is yours. I have the email account. I have receipts. I knew the cave. I know which payphone I dropped him off at. Plus I found more of his ###### while unpacking...</p><p></p><p>The only point you made is the point that you fail to believe the truth when it falls in your lap. You were rude from the beginning, I'm sorry if one of the stories you use to get hits here is proven wrong. If you were anyone else I wouldn't have said anything. But you are a site admin...</p><p></p><p>Temper temper. You say you have all these things, but you have provided less proof than Peragro...actually you have provided zero proof. So, no proof has fallen in anyone's lap. You are just claiming that you have what I and anyone else knows based on reading his story. Oh, and even I can make up a fake receipt, just in case you get antsey. It just seems so convenient for you that anything that could prove your case, such as the secret word, is gone.</p><p></p><p>And if you believe that people come here for Peragro, you are sadly mistaken. I am afraid that you are misinformed in your assumptions. Does it bother you so much that some people believe in that which you cannot fathom or attempt to comprehend?</p><p></p><p>You said you dropped him off at a payphone, give me the phone number at the payphone.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and about the account, like I said, anyone can register that email, it expired after non use. It was also created shortly before Peragro started posting...not months in advance as you suggest.</p><p></p><p>November 1, 06:17 PM</p><p></p><p>1.Wrong. I have had the account for over a year.</p><p>2. I knew the cave didn't I?</p><p>3. 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[QUOTE="Ralan, post: 235570, member: 35"] [wayback="20041112204255"]http://timetravelforum.net:80/library/index.php?showtopic=86[/wayback] [URL='https://web.archive.org/web/20041112204255/http://timetravelforum.net:80/library/index.php?showtopic=86']The Time Travel Library[/URL] [SPOILER="Text-only version"] The Time Travel Library! The world's largest archive of time travel information available on the Internet. IPB The Time Travel Library HelpSearchMembersCalendar Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register ) > Time Travel Library > Time Travel Hoaxers > Peragro Hoax > Malic and THE END Reply to this topicStart new topicStart Poll Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+ > Malic's Introductory Posts Track this topic | Email this topic | Print this topic Ralan post Nov 2 2004, 04:39 PM Post #1 Member ** Group: Librarian Posts: 13 Joined: 27-September 04 From: England, UK Member No.: 7 Oct 30 2004, 07:32 PM Let's start by saying I have an unoffical youth hostile in my basement. I let people rent it out for $10 a night. I'm not going to get into details just yet, but let's just say I found this site after finding some strange stuff that a guest of mine left behind a while back. This dude was strange when he was here and even stranger now that he is gone for good. I have an email account that I let people use when they need to email people and don't have an account themselves. I never use this account for anything, in fact last week was the first time I have logged into it in like a year. I found emails from people asking if I was a time traveller, etc... there was nothing from 'peragro' because all the emails are deleted every 30 days. Anyway, that lead me here. Maybe I can help you out... I doubt the guy was a time traveller, lol. Probably more like someone with schizophrenia that really believed what he said. Was Peragro’s name Jason Greene? Oct 30 2004, 07:52 PM Yes, he did say his name was Jason. Would you please tell us what you know about Peragro? Chat log: October 30, PM Malic: Malic3000 QUOTE (6:42:14 PM) You have just entered room "malic3000." (6:42:15 PM) Malic3000 has entered the room. Malic3000 (6:42:21 PM): k, i guess it worked TheHeggy (6:42:39 PM): LOL TheHeggy (6:42:42 PM): See? Easy TheHeggy (6:43:06 PM): I'm emailing Sue to get her in here. She left right before you posted your screen name LOL Malic3000 (6:43:17 PM): k TheHeggy (6:44:10 PM): BRB TheHeggy (6:45:24 PM): Okay, back TheHeggy (6:45:41 PM): Can you tell me what Peragro looked like? Malic3000 (6:46:11 PM): long hair, white, in his 20's (6:46:33 PM) cindymaylong has entered the room. (5:48:11 PM) You have just entered room "malic3000." TheHeggy (5:48:15 PM): Hi Snow Snow Fire Watches (5:48:17 PM): hello Snow Fire Watches (5:48:27 PM): and hello malic TheHeggy (5:48:29 PM): What color hair did he have? Malic3000 (5:48:29 PM): hi Malic3000 (5:48:39 PM): dark TheHeggy (5:48:40 PM): I just asked him what Peragro looked like Snow Snow Fire Watches (5:48:45 PM): so you think you knew our peragroo eh? Malic3000 (5:48:55 PM): yep, 99% sure Snow Fire Watches (5:49:00 PM): how tall was he? Malic3000 (5:49:15 PM): probably around 6 foot (same as me) Snow Fire Watches (5:49:27 PM): ok so tell us about him Snow Fire Watches (5:49:34 PM): the jason person that you knew Malic3000 (5:49:56 PM): he only stayed with me for a few days and was always on the computer Snow Fire Watches (5:50:25 PM): where was this place locted Malic3000 (5:50:32 PM): i pretty much left him alone and he left me alone Malic3000 (5:50:38 PM): im in springfield MO Snow Fire Watches (5:50:41 PM): and which time what days was he with you Malic3000 (5:50:45 PM): it was at my old house Snow Fire Watches (5:51:00 PM): where is your new house? Malic3000 (5:51:10 PM): not sure what days of the week, but it was like 6 months ago i guess Malic3000 (5:51:19 PM): im still in springfield Snow Fire Watches (5:51:47 PM): so heleft yourplace to live somewhere else Snow Fire Watches (5:51:51 PM): do you knw where that was? TheHeggy (5:51:57 PM): What were your impressions of Jason? Malic3000 (5:52:31 PM): I don't have any idea where he was going. He said he was going to meet someone in springfield and then they would go on a road trip Malic3000 (5:52:46 PM): Like I said, he was weird TheHeggy (5:53:01 PM): Did he have strange habits or somthing? Snow Fire Watches (5:53:02 PM): describe weird Malic3000 (5:53:33 PM): didnt know how to dress, no offense to anyone that shops at walmart.... but everything he had on looked like he just bought it at walmart Snow Fire Watches (5:54:01 PM): walmart again Snow Fire Watches (5:54:05 PM): sigh Malic3000 (5:54:12 PM): ? Snow Fire Watches (5:54:13 PM): sorry malic private joke Malic3000 (5:54:20 PM): oh Snow Fire Watches (5:54:27 PM): seems all tts reference to walmart Malic3000 (5:54:36 PM): ok, target then... lol TheHeggy (5:54:44 PM): Did he talk about his homelife? Snow Fire Watches (5:54:47 PM): the joke is that walmart sponsors tt in the future Malic3000 (5:54:57 PM): nope Malic3000 (5:55:25 PM): he asked me for money before he left, didnt give him any, but yeah Snow Fire Watches (5:55:28 PM): did he have any friends that you met? TheHeggy (5:55:30 PM): Did you like him? And why? Malic3000 (5:55:51 PM): nope and i didnt like him or dislike him Snow Fire Watches (5:56:06 PM): ok the emails you have received that are to him Malic3000 (5:56:07 PM): just kind of a bum TheHeggy (5:56:11 PM): LOL Snow Fire Watches (5:56:24 PM): where are they originating from and are of them more than just are you a tt type emails Malic3000 (5:56:56 PM): not really, i deleted most of them... Malic3000 (5:57:03 PM): mixed in with the spam Snow Fire Watches (5:57:17 PM): did you save any of them? Malic3000 (5:57:18 PM): ******@fastmail.fm is the email Snow Fire Watches (5:57:46 PM): ok so he was a bum with no money? Malic3000 (5:57:48 PM): no, most of them were private messages at another website and it was down Snow Fire Watches (5:58:01 PM): ok that does make sense TheHeggy (5:58:01 PM): Do you think he was a runaway of just some bum? Malic3000 (5:58:15 PM): too old to be a runaway Snow Fire Watches (5:58:21 PM): how old? Malic3000 (5:58:27 PM): i would say 25 Snow Fire Watches (5:58:48 PM): have you seen him since? Malic3000 (5:59:16 PM): nope, the last time i saw him i took him to taco bell and dropped him off TheHeggy (5:59:54 PM): Was he dirty and bummy looking, unshaven? Or somewhat clean? Snow Fire Watches (6:00:06 PM): so you dont really know who he was or where he came from or who his friends were or where he went when he left your place and you have never seen him again Malic3000 (6:00:12 PM): he left a bag at my house with almost nothing but tourist stuff in it... pamplets to silver dollar city, fantastic caverns, bass pro... type stuff Snow Fire Watches (6:00:31 PM): he left a bag? Snow Fire Watches (6:00:36 PM): anything else Snow Fire Watches (6:00:49 PM): any letters notes id Malic3000 (6:00:55 PM): yeah Malic3000 (6:01:13 PM): reciepts (sp?) and stuff TheHeggy (6:01:24 PM): Was he dirty and bummy looking, unshaven? Or somewhat clean? Malic3000 (6:01:35 PM): clean i guess... but long hair Malic3000 (6:01:43 PM): to his shoulders Snow Fire Watches (6:02:02 PM): did he seem educated or no? Malic3000 (6:02:03 PM): he screwed up my VCR while he was here TheHeggy (6:02:14 PM): Did you get that he was intelligent? Or do you think he was addicted to drugs and alcohol? Malic3000 (6:02:36 PM): he seemed really smart, just kind of a geek ya know? Snow Fire Watches (6:02:52 PM): how did he mess up your vxr? Snow Fire Watches (6:03:09 PM): sorry to pounding you with questions by the way Snow Fire Watches (6:03:20 PM): peragro is a high interest character to me TheHeggy (6:03:25 PM): We're just curious is all :-) Malic3000 (6:03:28 PM): to this day i dont know... its still in a box, just turn it on and get a blue screen... buttons dont work Malic3000 (6:03:47 PM): in a box cause i moved, not cause it is new Snow Fire Watches (6:03:56 PM): do you think he took it apart or what? Malic3000 (6:04:07 PM): maybe, who knows TheHeggy (6:04:38 PM): How often did he use it? Snow Fire Watches (6:04:40 PM): do you still have that bag? Snow Fire Watches (6:04:45 PM): i am interested in dates Malic3000 (6:04:45 PM): and i know he printed stuff off the internet because i had to get new ink once he left... but i never heard him print anything Snow Fire Watches (6:04:59 PM): and particularly interested in getting you to zero in on when he stayed with you Malic3000 (6:05:27 PM): just a sec Malic3000 (6:06:20 PM): k... i got the bag Malic3000 (6:06:41 PM): there is a gas station receipt for may 27 Malic3000 (6:06:50 PM): 12:12am Malic3000 (6:06:59 PM): $12.22 Snow Fire Watches (6:07:10 PM): please just detail to me everything that is inthere if you dont mind TheHeggy (6:07:30 PM): Cash or credit card? Malic3000 (6:07:53 PM): receipt for: gas station, gas station, steak out, papa johns, walmart, barnes and noble Malic3000 (6:08:02 PM): cash for all Snow Fire Watches (6:08:09 PM): dates Snow Fire Watches (6:08:18 PM): anything passed 5/31 Malic3000 (6:08:41 PM): may 27, 27, 27, 28, 29, 25 TheHeggy (6:08:49 PM): What book did he buy? Malic3000 (6:09:22 PM): siddhartha Malic3000 (6:09:33 PM): "Siddhartha by Hermann Hesse " TheHeggy (6:10:38 PM): Siddhartha is about buddism Malic3000 (6:10:46 PM): i guess TheHeggy (6:10:49 PM): About attaining inner peace and a higher conciousness TheHeggy (6:11:11 PM): You may have already answered this: How long did he stay with you? Malic3000 (6:11:27 PM): i think it was 3 days... might be wrong though Snow Fire Watches (6:11:44 PM): ok i really need you to zero in on the time Snow Fire Watches (6:12:06 PM): did he have that food delivered while he was at your place or was that before he stayed with you Malic3000 (6:12:14 PM): i dont keep records of who stays with me... the receipts are the best i can do Snow Fire Watches (6:12:31 PM): yes but maybe something will jog in your memory Malic3000 (6:12:38 PM): not sure, people ordered food to my house like every night Snow Fire Watches (6:12:38 PM): sorry TheHeggy (6:12:52 PM): Did he say where he was going when you dropped him off? What kind of conversations did you have with him? Snow Fire Watches (6:12:54 PM): may i hypnotize you? just kidding Malic3000 (6:13:07 PM): you guys dont seriously think he was a time traveller do you? lol... no offense Snow Fire Watches (6:13:27 PM): well - so far you have said one thing to make me think he COULDNT be TheHeggy (6:13:28 PM): We're not sure. I'm skeptical but asking questions is how you find out the truth Snow Fire Watches (6:13:36 PM): but i am seriously trying to find out Snow Fire Watches (6:13:49 PM): we just want the truth Snow Fire Watches (6:14:07 PM): he is the only one of ours that has actually followed through on what he said he would od and send Malic3000 (6:14:23 PM): what did he send you? Snow Fire Watches (6:14:30 PM): he didnt send it to me Snow Fire Watches (6:14:43 PM): but dl sscard map to acave Malic3000 (6:14:51 PM): eh? Snow Fire Watches (6:15:07 PM): if you have read his thread you will know that he stated he had a false identity TheHeggy (6:15:07 PM): A map to a cave and a drivers liscence Snow Fire Watches (6:15:15 PM): and apparetly he did have a false identity Malic3000 (6:15:27 PM): i didnt read the whole thing... there was a lot Snow Fire Watches (6:15:58 PM): do you know anyone named rachel taht may have had contact with jason? Malic3000 (6:16:02 PM): and i knew that... i hjust didnt get the "dl" part Malic3000 (6:16:19 PM): my friends ex is named rachel Snow Fire Watches (6:16:20 PM): he also sent film but it didnt develope Snow Fire Watches (6:16:40 PM): did she live or was she around when he was? Malic3000 (6:17:09 PM): she was probably here once or twice... they broke up about a month ago... up till then she was here a lot Snow Fire Watches (6:17:27 PM): does she work at a motel? Snow Fire Watches (6:17:31 PM): or did she? Malic3000 (6:17:55 PM): she used to be a waitress at the resturant in one Snow Fire Watches (6:18:04 PM): mind saying which one? Malic3000 (6:18:21 PM): Sheraton Snow Fire Watches (6:18:39 PM): did she have access to a fax machine at your house or at work? Malic3000 (6:18:48 PM): i had one Malic3000 (6:19:07 PM): still have it... but no phone line Snow Fire Watches (6:19:36 PM): i think one of us has the phone number that fax came from TheHeggy (6:19:43 PM): Did you ever have any conversations with this guy? Snow Fire Watches (6:19:53 PM): do you have the number of yours previosuly and do you mind sharing it? Malic3000 (6:20:06 PM): yeah of course... just never got personal is all Malic3000 (6:20:49 PM): i dont really remember the number... i could find out if i really had to Snow Fire Watches (6:21:16 PM): you say he was weird - please try to pin down the reasons you thought this = like the dressing - anything abouthis speech? anything about his questions? anything about his accent? Snow Fire Watches (6:21:45 PM): you dont have to malic - but it would be greatly appreciated as a piece of the puzzle - the fax number that is Malic3000 (6:21:59 PM): no... he was just a quiet shy guy... most people that are willing to stay in a hostile are normally friendly open people Malic3000 (6:22:43 PM): and he was ALWAYS on my computer... nobody else got a chance while he was around Snow Fire Watches (6:23:00 PM): he was int he middle of this story probably Snow Fire Watches (6:23:10 PM): it can quite time consuming as you can see Malic3000 (6:23:40 PM): i just saw his license on the forum... i dont think he was from texas Snow Fire Watches (6:25:02 PM): by the way malic - my entire family lives in springfield except for me :-( Snow Fire Watches (6:25:13 PM): so please save that bag - i may collect it someday Malic3000 (6:25:26 PM): really? cool... k, its just a plastic bag Snow Fire Watches (6:25:51 PM): Thanks! back to what came across as weird - anything else Malic3000 (6:26:07 PM): Oh yeah! i just rememberd he left a ring here... my friend has it now Snow Fire Watches (6:26:26 PM): is it unique in any way? Malic3000 (6:26:39 PM): nope, just a little silver thing Malic3000 (6:27:02 PM): and i just say weird because he was so shy Snow Fire Watches (6:27:09 PM): think you could scan it for us? and post apic? Malic3000 (6:27:36 PM): next time i talk to the guy that has it i will ask Snow Fire Watches (6:27:55 PM): did he make any long distance calls on your phone? Malic3000 (6:28:07 PM): maybe, i had free long distance Snow Fire Watches (6:28:22 PM): do you save your old bills? Snow Fire Watches (6:28:35 PM): are numbers called listed? Malic3000 (6:28:49 PM): nope, sorry... i didnt have detailed billing anyways Snow Fire Watches (6:28:50 PM): i have a reason for asking beside pure nosiness Snow Fire Watches (6:28:56 PM): ok Snow Fire Watches (6:29:16 PM): he did place a call or two to epole on the forum Malic3000 (6:29:27 PM): there might still be some stuff of his around... im not done unpacking yet Snow Fire Watches (6:29:28 PM): i just thought if you could pick out the number Snow Fire Watches (6:29:32 PM): we would know what date Snow Fire Watches (6:29:38 PM): i am still trying to get to the dates Malic3000 (6:30:06 PM): i know he used a payphone to call his dad a few times when i took him to the gas station Snow Fire Watches (6:30:11 PM): so when he left did youknow you werent going to see him again or was it suddenly? Malic3000 (6:30:21 PM): i knew he was leaving Snow Fire Watches (6:30:22 PM): his dad Snow Fire Watches (6:30:31 PM): any idea where his dad was? Malic3000 (6:30:36 PM): nope Snow Fire Watches (6:30:55 PM): sure it was his dad? did he say why he was calling his dad? Malic3000 (6:31:22 PM): thats what he said... he called him and then his dad called him back Malic3000 (6:31:30 PM): so he didnt have to pay Snow Fire Watches (6:31:55 PM): ok Snow Fire Watches (6:32:03 PM): you still with us heggy Snow Fire Watches (6:32:06 PM): sorry to be hogging Snow Fire Watches (6:32:36 PM): you say he had some touristy stuff in the bag Malic3000 (6:32:41 PM): uh huh Snow Fire Watches (6:32:56 PM): did he ever talk about caves to you? TheHeggy (6:32:57 PM): I'm still here, just watching TheHeggy (6:32:58 PM): LOL Malic3000 (6:33:19 PM): nope, but he has a pamplet for fantastic caverns in here Malic3000 (6:33:47 PM): i used to go caving though... was a speleology student at SMS Snow Fire Watches (6:33:47 PM): any indication that he might have done any spilinking? Snow Fire Watches (6:34:07 PM): lol at spelling Snow Fire Watches (6:34:11 PM): spelunking Snow Fire Watches (6:34:25 PM): really do you know clay frisbie? Malic3000 (6:34:26 PM): nope, im sure he would have said something.. my gear was downstairs when he was around Malic3000 (6:34:37 PM): nope Malic3000 (6:34:50 PM): it was a few years ago Snow Fire Watches (6:34:57 PM): hes a caver just asking lol Malic3000 (6:35:05 PM): havent been in a cave in about a year Snow Fire Watches (6:35:34 PM): do you have any notes he may have had access to? Snow Fire Watches (6:35:45 PM): describing certain caves that are not public? Malic3000 (6:36:11 PM): how far back does a computers history go back? Malic3000 (6:36:20 PM): oh, me... yeah Snow Fire Watches (6:36:45 PM): so he could have seen your notes and found out about the details of a certain cave? Snow Fire Watches (6:36:58 PM): do you have maps marked with cave locations? Malic3000 (6:37:00 PM): yeah, i mapped caves for 6 months Malic3000 (6:37:12 PM): i have topo maps all over the place Malic3000 (6:37:36 PM): all in boxes right now Snow Fire Watches (6:37:38 PM): that's very interesting Snow Fire Watches (6:38:09 PM): you could get elected to check out a cave that my brother has failed to look at for us Snow Fire Watches (6:38:18 PM): at this time i cant tell youthe name Malic3000 (6:38:20 PM): which one? Malic3000 (6:38:22 PM): oh Snow Fire Watches (6:38:26 PM): im sworn to xecrecy lol Malic3000 (6:38:32 PM): oh come on Malic3000 (6:38:33 PM): lol Snow Fire Watches (6:38:34 PM): its part of the story Malic3000 (6:38:47 PM): ive probably been in every cave in greene county Snow Fire Watches (6:39:08 PM): if you could list some unique cave name that he could have seen notes about would you just list them here? Snow Fire Watches (6:39:31 PM): Do you know Mr. *****? Malic3000 (6:39:46 PM): dont know any ***** Snow Fire Watches (6:39:52 PM): sigh Malic3000 (6:40:01 PM): i could list them... it would be about 100 names though Malic3000 (6:40:02 PM): lol Snow Fire Watches (6:40:02 PM): would you have gone to caves that are on private property? Malic3000 (6:40:16 PM): hell, i might even have pics of it on my pc if you tell me which one Snow Fire Watches (6:40:18 PM): haveyou gone to cave that are NOT on topo maps Malic3000 (6:40:29 PM): yes, most are on private prop. Snow Fire Watches (6:40:31 PM): i have tot have permission for that Snow Fire Watches (6:40:40 PM): but believe me i will be asking Snow Fire Watches (6:40:44 PM): for thepermission Snow Fire Watches (6:40:58 PM): becasue if had acces to pics and descipts of caves at your house Snow Fire Watches (6:41:04 PM): that is a big puzzle piece Snow Fire Watches (6:42:13 PM): well i believe the description was public of glass like walls and scorch marks Malic3000 (6:42:28 PM): brb Snow Fire Watches (6:42:33 PM): ok Malic3000 (6:44:00 PM): back Snow Fire Watches (6:44:05 PM): k Malic3000 (6:44:07 PM): i have pics of a few caves on my pc Snow Fire Watches (6:44:15 PM): ok name them Snow Fire Watches (6:44:24 PM): please Snow Fire Watches (6:44:24 PM): lol Snow Fire Watches (6:44:26 PM): im sorry Malic3000 (6:45:09 PM): breakdown, fitzpatrik, fantastic, doiling, tumbling creek, crystal, riverbluff Malic3000 (6:45:25 PM): and that doesnt include a cd i have of pics Snow Fire Watches (6:45:40 PM): okit is none of those Malic3000 (6:45:48 PM): what are the initals Malic3000 (6:45:51 PM): lol Snow Fire Watches (6:45:52 PM): ** Malic3000 (6:45:57 PM): ***********? Malic3000 (6:46:25 PM): ***********? Snow Fire Watches (6:46:30 PM): ok i guess we could say you offically guessed it please dont post the name Malic3000 (6:46:31 PM): *****l Malic3000 (6:46:38 PM): which one? Snow Fire Watches (6:46:42 PM): first one Malic3000 (6:46:55 PM): k, yes i have been there Snow Fire Watches (6:47:04 PM): did you have readily available info on that cave laying around? Malic3000 (6:47:07 PM): not sure if i have pics though Malic3000 (6:47:39 PM): nope, its just a small cave.... the entrance sucks... straight down slide for about 20 feet and about 3 feet wide Snow Fire Watches (6:47:54 PM): is there room for sphere in it? Malic3000 (6:48:07 PM): one big room... about 100 feet by 75 Snow Fire Watches (6:48:10 PM): what were the walls like when you were there? TheHeggy (6:48:12 PM): Woah Malic3000 (6:48:41 PM): like every other cave... wet and cold Malic3000 (6:48:46 PM): limestone Snow Fire Watches (6:49:00 PM): if limestone gets really hot does it get glassy? Malic3000 (6:49:28 PM): well the calcite looks shinny, so yeah i guess Snow Fire Watches (6:49:29 PM): i dont know and dnt know if you know im jsut asking either of you Snow Fire Watches (6:49:44 PM): when was the last time you were there? TheHeggy (6:49:54 PM): I think any stone that gets heated enough will turn glassy Malic3000 (6:50:01 PM): with my SMS class in 2003 Malic3000 (6:50:10 PM): probably a year ago Snow Fire Watches (6:50:24 PM): so if you went there now and it had chnaged significantly you would be able to tell? Malic3000 (6:50:56 PM): yeah, but i dont know the owners... and the guy that taught the class died in march Snow Fire Watches (6:51:18 PM): are you my borhter? Snow Fire Watches (6:51:23 PM): just kidding Malic3000 (6:51:25 PM): lol Snow Fire Watches (6:51:38 PM): but my brother has tried to go in with permission and the guy wont call him Malic3000 (6:52:07 PM): it wouldnt be too hard to get permission if i REALLY wanted to go Snow Fire Watches (6:52:50 PM): i only want you to go if you will take pictures and post them and note any changes that have occured and look for artifacts or leavings Snow Fire Watches (6:53:11 PM): otherwise i want you to leave it for my brother Malic3000 (6:53:14 PM): it might be gated off now Snow Fire Watches (6:53:22 PM): or i couldhave my brother call you and you could go together Snow Fire Watches (6:53:30 PM): ;-) Malic3000 (6:53:34 PM): either or Malic3000 (6:53:50 PM): what is supposed to have changed? Snow Fire Watches (6:54:08 PM): the walls were supposed to ahve been affected by heat make them like glass Snow Fire Watches (6:54:15 PM): scorch marks on the ground Snow Fire Watches (6:54:27 PM): and he did make it sound like he might leave something there Snow Fire Watches (6:54:36 PM): "by now you will have all the proof you need" Malic3000 (6:55:01 PM): is he supposed to be a criminal? Snow Fire Watches (6:55:05 PM): no Snow Fire Watches (6:55:14 PM): he isupposed to be a time traveler Malic3000 (6:55:37 PM): what about the forged social security card? Snow Fire Watches (6:55:41 PM): criminality comes into play when you take into account the false identity Snow Fire Watches (6:55:49 PM): which is definately verified as false Snow Fire Watches (6:56:19 PM): he was supposedly given false id in his time to bring with him Snow Fire Watches (6:56:38 PM): forged Malic3000 (6:56:43 PM): why would they give him false id? if he is from the future couldnt he get a real one? Snow Fire Watches (6:57:06 PM): well as you can see they are as lose to real as you can get without being real Snow Fire Watches (6:57:17 PM): the problem is the name on the ss card is not correct Snow Fire Watches (6:57:35 PM): and noone with his dob and name has a texas drivers license Snow Fire Watches (6:57:47 PM): the license is perfect in every detail Malic3000 (6:58:08 PM): was the pic cut by you guys or him? Snow Fire Watches (6:58:16 PM): that i dont know us i think Snow Fire Watches (6:58:28 PM): i think john did that Malic3000 (6:58:30 PM): i could definitely identify him then Snow Fire Watches (6:58:33 PM): not sure though Snow Fire Watches (6:58:56 PM): yes but you really cant tell us anything to establish that he was hoaxing Snow Fire Watches (6:59:14 PM): and there is still the possilbity that YOU ARE HIM Snow Fire Watches (6:59:15 PM): lol Malic3000 (6:59:23 PM): bum bum bum..... lol Malic3000 (6:59:37 PM): i would think having him in my house would be proof enough Snow Fire Watches (7:00:08 PM): in you rhouse for three days does not destroy his story Snow Fire Watches (7:00:10 PM): i wish it did Snow Fire Watches (7:00:14 PM): we could be done with it Malic3000 (7:00:19 PM): he said he as in a hotel Snow Fire Watches (7:00:37 PM): and he was interacting with us for more than three days Snow Fire Watches (7:00:48 PM): so sme of it could be in hotel Snow Fire Watches (7:00:52 PM): and cash went short Malic3000 (7:01:00 PM): ic Snow Fire Watches (7:01:09 PM): the call to his dad could have been a call to John Snow Fire Watches (7:01:20 PM): ;-) Snow Fire Watches (7:01:39 PM): just trying to put in perspective - we just want to know for sure Malic3000 (7:01:43 PM): which one is john? Snow Fire Watches (7:01:57 PM): john is the owner of this forum and that is his nick Snow Fire Watches (7:02:03 PM): it used to be satan Snow Fire Watches (7:02:17 PM): so references to satan in the forum are john Malic3000 (7:02:22 PM): k TheHeggy (7:02:28 PM): I may have missed this, but I'll ask anyways TheHeggy (7:02:34 PM): How did he find your hostile? TheHeggy (7:02:42 PM): Is there an ad for it somewhere or something? Malic3000 (7:03:09 PM): i had a sign outside Malic3000 (7:03:30 PM): might of had an ad in the paper at the time TheHeggy (7:04:09 PM): OKay, that TheHeggy (7:04:13 PM): s what I figured Snow Fire Watches (7:04:42 PM): forgive me but do youtake in homeless and runaway types? Snow Fire Watches (7:04:51 PM): is it a place for down and out? TheHeggy (7:04:54 PM): I wish Jovial was on, she had some other questions Malic3000 (7:05:14 PM): nope, its just for people passing through... mainly college kids Snow Fire Watches (7:06:47 PM): in those receipts - did he sight see or just have pamplets Malic3000 (7:07:02 PM): dont know Malic3000 (7:07:12 PM): no receipts for any of these places Snow Fire Watches (7:08:14 PM): when did you move? Snow Fire Watches (7:08:18 PM): just recently? Malic3000 (7:08:21 PM): a few weeks ago TheHeggy (7:08:43 PM): Where do you live now? Snow Fire Watches (7:08:44 PM): so you think when you finish unpakcing you may come up with other stuff that might pertain to peragro? Malic3000 (7:09:01 PM): i forgot to mention that he told me about the future and predicted my life for me.... j/k Malic3000 (7:09:07 PM): i live in an apartment Snow Fire Watches (7:09:22 PM): so no more youth hositle Malic3000 (7:09:25 PM): i dont know, there might be something in there Malic3000 (7:09:27 PM): nope Snow Fire Watches (7:10:12 PM): do you want go to the cave for us? Malic3000 (7:10:32 PM): i could, not this weekend though Snow Fire Watches (7:10:53 PM): no problem there we been waiting for months Snow Fire Watches (7:11:15 PM): do me a favor inthe meantime Snow Fire Watches (7:11:26 PM): if you can see ifyou have pics of ** Malic3000 (7:11:28 PM): ? Malic3000 (7:11:31 PM): k Snow Fire Watches (7:11:36 PM): as it was a year ago Snow Fire Watches (7:11:45 PM): and post a couple without the name Snow Fire Watches (7:11:54 PM): for comparsion later Snow Fire Watches (7:12:15 PM): another question Snow Fire Watches (7:12:23 PM): do youmind if we post this log? Malic3000 (7:12:27 PM): go ahead Snow Fire Watches (7:12:36 PM): I'm not saying we definately will Snow Fire Watches (7:12:40 PM): but we might Snow Fire Watches (7:12:42 PM): :-) Malic3000 (7:12:43 PM): k Snow Fire Watches (7:12:59 PM): sue is coming in Malic3000 (7:13:10 PM): ok, which one is she? Snow Fire Watches (7:13:16 PM): sosuemetoo (7:13:20 PM) sosuemetoo64 has entered the room. Snow Fire Watches (7:13:34 PM): hi sue sosuemetoo64 (7:13:46 PM): hey snow sosuemetoo64 (7:13:51 PM): hey heggy sosuemetoo64 (7:13:56 PM): hey malic Malic3000 (7:14:09 PM): hi Snow Fire Watches (7:14:14 PM): for sues benifit im going to tell her what we know so far Malic3000 (7:14:19 PM): ok Snow Fire Watches (7:14:46 PM): jason stayed with malic for three days - he did leave a few thing thatat inlcude Snow Fire Watches (7:15:00 PM): receipts dated late may Snow Fire Watches (7:15:14 PM): malic is spelunker sosuemetoo64 (7:15:22 PM): okay Snow Fire Watches (7:15:32 PM): so jason may have had access to cave desciptions while at malics Snow Fire Watches (7:16:27 PM): malic knows no personal info - does not know where peragro came from sosuemetoo64 (7:16:27 PM): alright Snow Fire Watches (7:16:32 PM): where he was going Snow Fire Watches (7:16:43 PM): if he had friends Snow Fire Watches (7:16:45 PM): etc Snow Fire Watches (7:16:53 PM): he has never seen peragro again Snow Fire Watches (7:17:11 PM): he did take to a payphone acouple times to call his dad sosuemetoo64 (7:17:12 PM): What dates are the receipts ? Snow Fire Watches (7:17:21 PM): his dad returned the call to the payphone sosuemetoo64 (7:17:36 PM): sorry, keep going snow Snow Fire Watches (7:17:41 PM): ( i think - is that what you told me amlic?) Malic3000 (7:18:00 PM): yeah Snow Fire Watches (7:18:21 PM): so he made a call and his dad called the payohne back? did you witness that? Malic3000 (7:19:04 PM): yeah, i took him to the gas station Malic3000 (7:19:10 PM): he didnt have a car Snow Fire Watches (7:19:13 PM): i mean did you hear the phone ring Malic3000 (7:19:21 PM): yep Snow Fire Watches (7:19:24 PM): ok thaks Snow Fire Watches (7:19:39 PM): now one thing i would like to go back to Snow Fire Watches (7:20:13 PM): you said you could come up with that fax number you had - i would really really appreciate having that its could be a big piece Snow Fire Watches (7:20:17 PM): of our puzzle Snow Fire Watches (7:20:27 PM): oh and sue - malic knows a rachel Malic3000 (7:20:30 PM): k... give me a sec Snow Fire Watches (7:20:44 PM): she is the ex - girlfriend of his friend Snow Fire Watches (7:20:58 PM): they broke up a month ago sosuemetoo64 (7:21:09 PM): What did she look like Malic Snow Fire Watches (7:21:12 PM): she did not work at a hotel Snow Fire Watches (7:21:20 PM): but she watiress at the sheraton Malic3000 (7:21:21 PM): ***-***-**** Snow Fire Watches (7:21:35 PM): ok thank you malic sue please record that for john sosuemetoo64 (7:21:44 PM): Yes I will Snow Fire Watches (7:21:49 PM): regarding the cave sue Snow Fire Watches (7:22:02 PM): malic "guessed" the name from the initials sosuemetoo64 (7:22:09 PM): Just a cursory look , this does match Snow Fire Watches (7:22:28 PM): ok so the fax was sent by rachel from malics house Snow Fire Watches (7:22:42 PM): now we know what date jason stayed with malic Snow Fire Watches (7:22:57 PM): he has been to the cave a year ago sosuemetoo64 (7:22:58 PM): okay Snow Fire Watches (7:23:09 PM): he may have pics from them and he will look and post them if possible Malic3000 (7:23:10 PM): okay, what about the fax? i missed that part Snow Fire Watches (7:23:25 PM): that is the number that john received a fax from Snow Fire Watches (7:23:31 PM): according to sue Malic3000 (7:23:37 PM): oh sosuemetoo64 (7:24:22 PM): I can't verify for sure Malic but just a cursory look, it matches Snow Fire Watches (7:25:13 PM): so according to malic there is nothing remarkable about this cave but it is one large room sosuemetoo64 (7:25:20 PM): Malic can you tell me what Rachel looks like ? Snow Fire Watches (7:25:23 PM): it did not have glass walls Snow Fire Watches (7:25:40 PM): ok while sue gets to question i will break Snow Fire Watches (7:25:46 PM): need air Malic3000 (7:25:47 PM): she is a korean girl sosuemetoo64 (7:26:14 PM): This description matches what Peragro told me. sosuemetoo64 (7:26:20 PM): Of Rachel Malic3000 (7:26:35 PM): lol, just mark him down as fake Malic3000 (7:26:58 PM): rachel was never *with* him sosuemetoo64 (7:27:23 PM): Well at this point I'm trying to verify that you either are Peragro or you knew peragro. You have to understand Malic3000 (7:27:58 PM): gotcha sosuemetoo64 (7:27:59 PM): Peragro never claimed to be "with" Rachel ... only that she was very nice, he liked her a lot and that she assisted him. Malic3000 (7:28:22 PM): assisted him with what? i can call her right now sosuemetoo64 (7:28:46 PM): I'd love it if you could get her on AIM right now Malic ... is that possible ? Malic3000 (7:29:13 PM): nope, she has no pc sosuemetoo64 (7:29:31 PM): I was the one who was supposed to call the hotel to find her. Long story, I was never able to. sosuemetoo64 (7:30:24 PM): She assisted him as far as faxes, helping him find places to eat, he felt comfortable with her and felt she was the only friend he had. sosuemetoo64 (7:30:59 PM): Do you have the actual dates that he stayed with you Malic ? Malic3000 (7:31:46 PM): nope... i have rachel on the phone right now Malic3000 (7:31:53 PM): she doesnt even know who i am talking about sosuemetoo64 (7:32:17 PM): So she never did anything for him then ? Malic3000 (7:32:46 PM): apparently not, not if she doesnt even know him sosuemetoo64 (7:33:09 PM): He must have met her somehow to have that name and her description. Malic3000 (7:33:40 PM): well, they probably met at my house, but they didnt hang out sosuemetoo64 (7:33:57 PM): Would you be willing to tell me about her employment ? Malic3000 (7:34:21 PM): she's pretty hot... he probably remembers her real well... you know? she blows guys off everyday Malic3000 (7:34:29 PM): she doesnt work right now Malic3000 (7:34:33 PM): she goes to scholl sosuemetoo64 (7:34:49 PM): Yes, that's what Peragro said, she went to school Malic3000 (7:35:03 PM): well, she doesnt work anymore sosuemetoo64 (7:35:19 PM): did she work from May 1st until Memorial day weekend? Malic3000 (7:35:29 PM): yeah sosuemetoo64 (7:35:40 PM): could you tell me where? If not that is fine Malic3000 (7:35:45 PM): sheraton sosuemetoo64 (7:36:07 PM): in the motel ... Sheraton? Malic3000 (7:36:18 PM): hotel... she was a waitress sosuemetoo64 (7:36:42 PM): yes, and he ate there at the restaraunt sosuemetoo64 (7:36:59 PM): She recommended Steak Out to him. Malic3000 (7:37:27 PM): there is a steak out receipt here sosuemetoo64 (7:37:31 PM): I'm telling you all of this because you have her on the phone with you Malic3000 (7:37:39 PM): not anymore sosuemetoo64 (7:37:46 PM): oh, I'm sorry Malic3000 (7:37:53 PM): its fine Malic3000 (7:37:58 PM): i dont think its the same girl sosuemetoo64 (7:37:59 PM): Can you tell me the location of the Sheraton ? Malic3000 (7:38:05 PM): she would remember Malic3000 (7:38:10 PM): its on glenstone sosuemetoo64 (7:38:30 PM): city/state ? Malic3000 (7:38:35 PM): springfield mo Snow Fire Watches (7:38:36 PM): lol sosuemetoo64 (7:39:03 PM): I can verify that what Malic is saying is accurate. sosuemetoo64 (7:39:19 PM): From my PM chats with Peragro sosuemetoo64 (7:39:36 PM): Rachel may not remember, but Peragro did. Malic3000 (7:39:46 PM): i guess Malic3000 (7:39:48 PM): lol Malic3000 (7:40:05 PM): do they not have females in the future? sosuemetoo64 (7:40:11 PM): Can you tell me what Peragro looked like ? Age, that kind of thing Malic3000 (7:40:39 PM): he was white, long hair, about 6 feet tall... glasses... etc... sosuemetoo64 (7:42:02 PM): this matches what Peragro told me. Malic3000 (7:42:24 PM): does this help his case or make it worse? Snow Fire Watches (7:42:53 PM): well - we are hoping to find something that throws the story in the ditch sosuemetoo64 (7:42:54 PM): I'd like to know Malic how you felt about Peragro Snow Fire Watches (7:42:57 PM): so far nothing Malic3000 (7:43:12 PM): he was quiet, shy and weird sosuemetoo64 (7:43:14 PM): Did you think that he was mentally ill Malic3000 (7:43:17 PM): lol Malic3000 (7:43:19 PM): haha Malic3000 (7:43:21 PM): sorry Snow Fire Watches (7:43:23 PM): there is always the possibility that you are actuallyperagro come back to enjoy his story some more Malic3000 (7:44:14 PM): yeah, he could have been... thats why i laughed, when we first started chatting i said he was probably some mentally ill kid that believed everything he said Snow Fire Watches (7:44:21 PM): I cant think of a good way to confirm that is not the case with out asking tons of persoanl info Snow Fire Watches (7:44:27 PM): so i am not asking Malic3000 (7:44:37 PM): im not him, i can tell you that much right now sosuemetoo64 (7:44:42 PM): Did he seem paranoid to you. Malic3000 (7:44:53 PM): yes, he never left the basement sosuemetoo64 (7:45:05 PM): Anti social ? Malic3000 (7:45:08 PM): indeed sosuemetoo64 (7:45:32 PM): Did he ever tell you where his father was located ? Malic3000 (7:45:39 PM): nope sosuemetoo64 (7:45:49 PM): Sorry, I know this sounds like an interrogation. Malic3000 (7:46:00 PM): its fine Snow Fire Watches (7:46:06 PM): he is used to it by now lol i have been interogating him for hours Malic3000 (7:46:08 PM): he was probably a serial killer sosuemetoo64 (7:46:12 PM): I do believe you are not peragro, I have my own reasons sosuemetoo64 (7:46:24 PM): I believe you met him. Snow Fire Watches (7:46:43 PM): why do you say he was probably a serial killer malic? sosuemetoo64 (7:46:45 PM): I did not believe that he was necessarily a tt'er Malic3000 (7:46:48 PM): just joking sosuemetoo64 (7:46:59 PM): I believe he needed help sosuemetoo64 (7:47:18 PM): and just for the record malic ... I stated that same thing ... I was worried for him. Snow Fire Watches (7:47:32 PM): I want to know how a mentally ill person obtained perfectly forged ids? Malic3000 (7:48:02 PM): probably the internet, just type fake id in google... i know plenty of people who got fake ids off the internet Snow Fire Watches (7:48:22 PM): really . . . Snow Fire Watches (7:48:36 PM): that's interesting Snow Fire Watches (7:48:45 PM): howlong dies it take to obtain such things? Malic3000 (7:49:09 PM): dont know... a few months sosuemetoo64 (7:49:15 PM): Malic do you recall how long Peragro stayed with you or the dates, this will be very helpful. Snow Fire Watches (7:49:18 PM): say fake missouri drivers license - you ahve seen these and they are perfect? Malic3000 (7:50:03 PM): i take that back... they have them, but i would hardly say perfect Snow Fire Watches (7:50:23 PM): ok Malic3000 (7:50:25 PM): it was the end of may, like 3 days i think sosuemetoo64 (7:51:04 PM): The dates and times are very important Malic Malic3000 (7:51:27 PM): sorry, i dont keep records... just have the receipts he left Malic3000 (7:51:38 PM): and if they didnt say, we have his ring too sosuemetoo64 (7:51:55 PM): what about dates Malic beginning of may, end of may Snow Fire Watches (7:51:58 PM): which you are goign to try get a scan of correct? Malic3000 (7:52:31 PM): end of may, and yes sosuemetoo64 (7:52:45 PM): describe the ring Malic Malic3000 (7:52:55 PM): just not sure if it was the same time as the receipts... but logically speaking it probably was Malic3000 (7:53:01 PM): just a silver ring sosuemetoo64 (7:54:00 PM): okay, any thing on the ring ? Snow Fire Watches (7:54:18 PM): he canthave been ther before the dates on the receipts he left so logically it was the same time or after Malic3000 (7:54:39 PM): my friend took the ring Malic3000 (7:54:40 PM): he has it Malic3000 (7:55:07 PM): so who is supposed to win on tuesday? Malic3000 (7:55:18 PM): or did he not say Snow Fire Watches (7:55:28 PM): depends on which TT you ask malic :-) sosuemetoo64 (7:55:35 PM): I don't recall what Peragro said about this Snow Fire Watches (7:55:43 PM): me either Snow Fire Watches (7:55:54 PM): but the best ones have said this an election like no other Snow Fire Watches (7:56:00 PM): it will be a mess sosuemetoo64 (7:56:05 PM): Malic, if everything you are saying is the truth, you need to know something. Malic3000 (7:56:08 PM): i could have predicted that Snow Fire Watches (7:56:20 PM): you couodnt have predicted it four years ago sosuemetoo64 (7:56:43 PM): Peragro mentioned Rachel long before he stayed with you. Malic3000 (7:57:31 PM): so what are you saying... he had some weird affair with her? lol sosuemetoo64 (7:57:35 PM): No sosuemetoo64 (7:57:50 PM): what I'm saying is... sosuemetoo64 (7:58:06 PM): He somehow stayed at your home thru Rachel Malic3000 (7:58:18 PM): then she is lying to me Snow Fire Watches (7:58:19 PM): but it is possible she met him at work and gave him your place as a place to stay for his last few days sosuemetoo64 (7:58:29 PM): No, Rachel is not lying to you at all Snow Fire Watches (7:58:34 PM): well she may sincerely not remember too lol Malic3000 (7:58:37 PM): ive known her for 3 years Malic3000 (7:58:43 PM): who knows sosuemetoo64 (7:58:56 PM): What he found significant and what she found significant were two different things Snow Fire Watches (7:59:32 PM): did he pay for his stay with you? sosuemetoo64 (7:59:50 PM): That is what I am saying. It's obvious that you had some feelings about Peragro being "weird" or offbalance Malic3000 (7:59:55 PM): why wouldnt he just stay with his family if he was from the future? come hang out with himself when he was young Malic3000 (8:00:13 PM): yeah $10 a night sosuemetoo64 (8:00:24 PM): He said he didn't want to do that because it would affect his timeline, if I recall. Snow Fire Watches (8:00:48 PM): and he was from 105 years in the future something like that Malic3000 (8:00:58 PM): wow. guys... stop for a sec. and think logically... there is no way this guy was from the future Snow Fire Watches (8:01:05 PM): not our normal JT wannabe sosuemetoo64 (8:01:27 PM): I'm telling you this Malic on the basis that he is not a tt okay Snow Fire Watches (8:01:35 PM): ok tell us why you beleive that im open Malic3000 (8:01:43 PM): if there was time travel, we would know... Snow Fire Watches (8:02:09 PM): hehe well according to him he was the first human Snow Fire Watches (8:02:15 PM): test subject sosuemetoo64 (8:02:21 PM): Yes, they sent a dog first Malic3000 (8:02:24 PM): oh... where can i find all these logs? Snow Fire Watches (8:03:01 PM): well in the library i have the most complete record so far of his posts Malic3000 (8:03:04 PM): the site all the emails came from is down Snow Fire Watches (8:03:22 PM): from the old site Snow Fire Watches (8:03:59 PM): let me get you a link sosuemetoo64 (8:04:18 PM): Malic , strange question, but what did Peragro like to eat ? Malic3000 (8:04:54 PM): he has receipts for papa johns and steak out Malic3000 (8:05:03 PM): and i dropped him off at taco bell Snow Fire Watches (8:05:14 PM): [URL="http://timetravelforum.net/library/index.php?showforum=17"]Time Travel Forum[/URL] sosuemetoo64 (8:05:31 PM): Did he say where he was staying before he arrived at your place, or WHY he arrived at your place Malic3000 (8:05:47 PM): nope and nope sosuemetoo64 (8:08:24 PM): I'm not being critical here Malic ... but do you allow anyone to stay in your home? Did you have a recomendation of some kind for Peragro ? Malic3000 (8:08:27 PM): what kind of plugin do i need to get for mozilla to work with your forum chat Malic3000 (8:08:43 PM): nope, it was pretty much a hostile Malic3000 (8:08:56 PM): it was normally college kids Snow Fire Watches (8:09:17 PM): in the summer those might be scarce so you take others i know what it is liek Malic3000 (8:10:28 PM): k guys, im going to eat in a minute.... so if you got anything else let em rip Snow Fire Watches (8:10:31 PM): malic im confused why you have a network in an apartmetn - do you share? Malic3000 (8:10:41 PM): yeah Malic3000 (8:11:03 PM): i live on a golf course... kind of a nice place, free internet, cable, etc... Snow Fire Watches (8:11:10 PM): i dont know the answer to your wustion above but i will find out Snow Fire Watches (8:11:56 PM): i cant think of anything else for now but i hope you will allow us a follow up chat after we digest this Snow Fire Watches (8:11:59 PM): and also Snow Fire Watches (8:12:08 PM): i hopw you will look for the pics of that cave Snow Fire Watches (8:12:27 PM): determine if he could have access to notes of yours about it Malic3000 (8:12:35 PM): k, ill do that after i eat... ill hope back on here or the forum later Snow Fire Watches (8:12:44 PM): and consider a follow up visit to the cave to see if it has changed Malic3000 (8:13:09 PM): if you guys figure out what plugin mozilla needs, post it in the forum for me Snow Fire Watches (8:13:22 PM): remember not to post the name of the cave before we have a chance for someone of us from the forum to check it out Malic3000 (8:13:33 PM): k Snow Fire Watches (8:13:33 PM): ok Malic3000 (8:13:37 PM): talk to you guys later Snow Fire Watches (8:13:44 PM): thanks for all your time Snow Fire Watches (8:13:46 PM): been fun Snow Fire Watches (8:13:51 PM): happy eating sosuemetoo64 (8:13:52 PM): thanks Malic (8:14:07 PM) Malic3000 has left the room. Malic, About your fastmail account, I have an account there as well, it unlike hotmail keeps a copy of every email you send. First Please send me a copy of an email he replied to and sent to me at a hotmail account around May with a secret word he and I decided upon. You won't be able to mistake it. No one knows it but he and I. This will, for me, validate your claim. You can send the above email to [email]satan@timetravelforum.net[/email]. Also based on the unedited log you provided the wrong phone number. Yesterday, 06:33 AM John, There are no emails from that long ago, it deletes everything every 30 days, there was nothing in a saved folder. If I come across rude, I apologize, but I then have no way to validate your story. All of the information you have provided, with the exception of guessing the cave name, can be found in the archived threads. As for the cave name, if you are from the area or if you are in fact Peragro, you could easily guess this. As for your email address, fastmail deletes inactive accounts so you could have easily learned what the email address was that sent me the email and then re-registered it, since I am sure it hasn't been used since May. At this point I feel you are deceiving us. November 1, 04:19 PM Fine with me. Have fun believing in time travellers. Just the snide response I'd expect from a hoaxer attempting to prove that a potential time traveler is a hoax... especially when faced with opposition. This is a common reaction when hoaxers have planned out their story only to find it picked apart or shown for what it is. Point made. November 1, 06:03 PM The problem is yours. I have the email account. I have receipts. I knew the cave. I know which payphone I dropped him off at. Plus I found more of his ###### while unpacking... The only point you made is the point that you fail to believe the truth when it falls in your lap. You were rude from the beginning, I'm sorry if one of the stories you use to get hits here is proven wrong. If you were anyone else I wouldn't have said anything. But you are a site admin... Temper temper. You say you have all these things, but you have provided less proof than Peragro...actually you have provided zero proof. So, no proof has fallen in anyone's lap. You are just claiming that you have what I and anyone else knows based on reading his story. Oh, and even I can make up a fake receipt, just in case you get antsey. It just seems so convenient for you that anything that could prove your case, such as the secret word, is gone. And if you believe that people come here for Peragro, you are sadly mistaken. I am afraid that you are misinformed in your assumptions. Does it bother you so much that some people believe in that which you cannot fathom or attempt to comprehend? You said you dropped him off at a payphone, give me the phone number at the payphone. Oh, and about the account, like I said, anyone can register that email, it expired after non use. It was also created shortly before Peragro started posting...not months in advance as you suggest. November 1, 06:17 PM 1.Wrong. I have had the account for over a year. 2. I knew the cave didn't I? 3. If I get you the payphone number will you shut up? User is offlineProfile CardPM Go to the top of the page +Quote Post « Next Oldest · Malic and THE END · Next Newest » Enter Keywords Reply to this topicTopic OptionsStart new topic 1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users) 0 Members: |---- Malic and THE END Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 12th November 2004 - 08:42 PM Powered by Invision Power Board(Trial) v2.0.0 © 2004 IPS, Inc. [/SPOILER] [/QUOTE]
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