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<blockquote data-quote="Timmy G" data-source="post: 11612" data-attributes="member: 189"><p><strong>US civil war</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>US Supreme Court hears due process requests of 2 US citizens held without charges. Civil and human rights organizations file briefs and demonstrate, challenging president's authority over ?enemy combatants?.</strong> </p><p></p><p>Here's a snip from the article, which can be found here in its entirety: <a href="http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=252" target="_blank">Case Challenges Detention of US Citizens as 'Enemy Combatants'</a></p><p>"If the government?s position were adopted by this Court, a U.S. citizen who is falsely or inaccurately accused could be detained indefinitely, without effective access to counsel to test the basis for his detention in a habeas corpus proceeding or, indeed, in any judicial proceeding. Such power is fundamentally incompatible with the constitutional guarantee of due process, with the role constitutionally assigned to the courts in the protection of individual rights, and with the rule of law itself."</p><p></p><p>Apr 28 - The US Supreme Court heard arguments today over the two cases brought on behalf of American citizens petitioning for their right to a trial. Yaser Esam Hamdi and Jos? Padilla have both been held without charges in military prison for over two years without access to US courts. </p><p></p><p>I personally believe the government did cross the line with those two American Citizens in the aftermath of 9/11. Certainly a PRO argument would be that these people, although they are citizens of the US, are foreigners in their own right. their parents are from waring countries, etc. etc. etc. - the CON would be that "It Just Doesn't Matter". I say that if you are a US citizen, you are protected under the Constitution, period. Once this happened to these two guys, it can happen to any of us... and that certainly includes you or me <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite61" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure :unsure:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":unsure:" /> It stinks and I don't like it. </p><p></p><p>Just like the time I read in the newspaper that (at least in Illinois) you are not allowed a jury trial, anymore - for any crime that is punishable by 6 months or less. That stank very badly, and nobody said a word about it. </p><p></p><p>Do you hear it... listen closely.. <span style="color: gray"><span style="font-size: 9px">chip... chip... chip... chip... chip... </span></span>you know what that is? It is the sound of our government slowly chipping away the foundation that IS our RIGHTS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Timmy G, post: 11612, member: 189"] [b]US civil war[/b] [b]US Supreme Court hears due process requests of 2 US citizens held without charges. Civil and human rights organizations file briefs and demonstrate, challenging president's authority over ?enemy combatants?.[/b] Here's a snip from the article, which can be found here in its entirety: [url=http://newstandardnews.net/content/?action=show_item&itemid=252]Case Challenges Detention of US Citizens as 'Enemy Combatants'[/url] "If the government?s position were adopted by this Court, a U.S. citizen who is falsely or inaccurately accused could be detained indefinitely, without effective access to counsel to test the basis for his detention in a habeas corpus proceeding or, indeed, in any judicial proceeding. Such power is fundamentally incompatible with the constitutional guarantee of due process, with the role constitutionally assigned to the courts in the protection of individual rights, and with the rule of law itself." Apr 28 - The US Supreme Court heard arguments today over the two cases brought on behalf of American citizens petitioning for their right to a trial. Yaser Esam Hamdi and Jos? Padilla have both been held without charges in military prison for over two years without access to US courts. I personally believe the government did cross the line with those two American Citizens in the aftermath of 9/11. Certainly a PRO argument would be that these people, although they are citizens of the US, are foreigners in their own right. their parents are from waring countries, etc. etc. etc. - the CON would be that "It Just Doesn't Matter". I say that if you are a US citizen, you are protected under the Constitution, period. Once this happened to these two guys, it can happen to any of us... and that certainly includes you or me :unsure: It stinks and I don't like it. Just like the time I read in the newspaper that (at least in Illinois) you are not allowed a jury trial, anymore - for any crime that is punishable by 6 months or less. That stank very badly, and nobody said a word about it. Do you hear it... listen closely.. [color=gray][SIZE=1]chip... chip... chip... chip... chip... [/SIZE][/color][SIZE=1][/SIZE]you know what that is? It is the sound of our government slowly chipping away the foundation that IS our RIGHTS. [/QUOTE]
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