Civil war getting hotter

Samstwitch

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Moments ago, the San Bernadino Police Chief said at the Press Conference that the fire was not intentionally set. I don't believe that. The 3 Chiefs & Officers speaking at the Press Conference were very nervous and it was a very short Conference. They cut it short and would not answer questions.

In the Audio below, you can clearly hear the Officer saying, "Burn that f*cken house down!"

This is why I believe they "intentionally" burned down the house, contrary to their statement given at the Press Conference...LIES.

 
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And now they are attempting to pass very strong anti gun legislation in Missouri and Minnesota. Stronger than the legislation New York passed.

The civil war is definitely heating up.
 
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Octavusprime said:
The police are a close knit community. Of course they lit it up to watch him burn. That doesn't make it a coverup or psyop
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Yes it does. It was an execution. They proved they could launch CS nerve gas from long range. They could of chosen a non lethal non flammable gas. They could of gone with mediators. They could of waited him out... he would of had to sleep sometime.


ALSO

The swat team that did the executing was the LAPD. They flew OUTSIDE THEIR JURISDICTION to assassinate.

Both the Big Bear sheriffs office and the LAPD should face justice for their part in the murder. If the justice system wont provide us justice then more Dorners will pop up to demand it.

It is a cover up.
 
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This wasn't a very big protest, but it's worth mentioning. The shooting of innocent women by LAPD, and the way Dorner was hunted down and burned out has awakened some of the people. It's a beginning.

Protesters show support for Christopher Dorner

Dozens of protesters gathered outside the Los Angeles Police Department headquarters downtown Saturday afternoon, holding signs of support for Christopher Dorner, the fired police officer suspected of killing four people.

Those gathered said they were protesting police corruption and the way the massive manhunt for Dorner was conducted. Authorities said Dorner appears to have died from a self-inflected gunshot wound after a shootout with police in Big Bear on Tuesday, ending a deadly rampage that stretched across Southern California.

Protesters said they believed Dorner’s claims that he was unfairly fired from the department in 2009 – grievances described in a lengthy online manifesto that has been attributed to him. Dorner also claimed that he was the victim of racism.

Protesters also said they were appalled by police mistakenly shooting at passengers in two separate trucks in Torrance, wrongly believing Dorner might be in the vehicles. One woman was shot in the back and is still recovering.

The protesters emphasized that they did not condone the killings of which Dorner is accused.

Michael Nam, 30, stood at the corner of 1st and Main Streets with a sign, painted by his girlfriend, showing a tombstone and the words “RIP Habeas Corpus.” The tombstone was engulfed in flames.

Nam, of Lomita, said he was disturbed by the burning of a mountain cabin near Big Bear where Dorner barricaded himself with a high-powered sniper rifle, smoke bombs and a cache of ammo. The blaze started shortly after police fired "pyrotechnic" tear gas into the cabin; the canisters are known as "burners" because the intense heat they emit often causes a fire.

But authorities have maintained that the fire was not intentionally set.

Dorner, whose charred body was found in the cabin, appears to have died of a single gunshot wound to the head, authorities said.

“How the police handled this -– they were the judge, the jury and the executioner,” Nam said. “As an American citizen, you have the right to a trial and due process by law.”

Nam, a former Marine and a current member of the Army National Guard, said he has combat experience from deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan.

He said he has been in situations in which a combatant has been barricaded and successfully waited until the person surrendered, eventually getting “tired and coming out on their own.”

Nam said it was “pretty obvious” police wanted Dorner dead. “What I saw was a complete disregard for the Bill of Rights,” Nam said.

San Bernardino County Sheriff John McMahon, during a news conference Friday, defended the tactics used by his agency in the shootout at the mountain cabin, which left one of his deputies dead and another seriously wounded.

“The bottom line is the deputy sheriffs of this department, and the law enforcement officers from the surrounding area, did an outstanding job,” he said. “They ran into the line of fire.”

Protesters on Saturday said they organized the event through a Facebook page called “I support Christopher Jordan Dorner.” The Facebook post announcing the protest tells attendees to “keep it PEACEFUL” and to bring recording equipment.

The Facebook page states: “This is not a page about supporting the killing of innocent people. It’s supporting fighting back against corrupt cops and bringing to light what they do.”

As the protesters stood Saturday, drivers passing by honked, waved and gave thumbs up. A handful of officers watched from police headquarters across the street.

Nam said he spoke to the officers before the protest began about what the protesters should do to keep the event peaceful. He said the officers were respectful.

The protesters marched around the block, circling an intersection near the department headquarters. They chanted, “LAPD, you are guilty.”

Signs expressed anger at police and support for Dorner.

“If you’re not enraged, you’re not paying attention,” one sign read.

“Why couldn’t we hear his side?”

“Clear his name! Christopher Dorner”

Liliana Alaniz, 40, came with her family -– her mother, sister, nieces and daughters -– from Long Beach to join the protest, which she said was her first.

“I really, really believe he was innocent in the firing case,” Alaniz said of Dorner.

Alaniz held a sign that read, “Trying to clear your name.”

Her daughter, Andrea Tovar, said Dorner “has his supporters.”

“Murder is never right, but neither is the law when it’s unjust,” said Tovar, 18. She said police need to know they “can’t get away with everything.”
 
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RED ALERT: Obama Signs Cybersecurity Executive Order- DHS to Regulate the Internet. CISPA by his word and whim.

RED ALERT: Obama Signs Cybersecurity Executive Order- DHS to Regulate the Internet | SilverDoctors.com


In 2012, a unified, co-ordinated effort among Americans (including numerous large corporations) successfully fought off the draconian CISPA legislation. Der Führer has just taken matters into his own hands, signing an Executive Order titled Improving Critical Infrastructure Cybersecurity.
As if anyone didn’t see this coming- the agency charged by Obama with regulating the security of critical infrastructure: The DHS.
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N.D. Asserts Sovereignty; Rejects Obama Power Grab | American Free Press


N.D. Asserts Sovereignty; Rejects Obama Power Grab February 13, 2013 AFP
By Pat Shannan


This time the state’s lawmakers are taking direct shots at not only the current administration but all executive orders issued by past administrations.
N.D.’s H.B. 1428 is currently pending in the state Legislature. It is designed to give state legislators the power to suspend orders implemented unless the orders have been upheld by Congress.
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is out.

When one system of governance is in opposition to itself then the systom of governinece is in opposition no?
 
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To put it into context : We have Washington and Colorado passing legalization legislation in opposition to federal law, North Dakota in the process of passing legislation that effectively nullifies all federal executive orders in their state, Virgina passing a no drone laws in their state law, All the wild problems in the states of florida,california, and new york.... Then their is the second amendment crises in MO and MN .....





To say nothing at all of the have endless wars of imperialism that are ever on going for no justifiable reason .

Our military is stretched thin and vilified. Many of our State governments are in vast and deep opposition to federal law.

I am willing to admit it. Their is chaos amoung our divided union . It is at war with itself. In my opinion. And it is only gonna escalate and get worse if we can't fix it as a nation of people... these are times we will use to fix things before they get worse or look back upon with regret and repentance.
 

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