Does an electric field or a magnetic field have mass

[NaturalPhilosopher]

only question is if they did ship to shore experiments on the eldridge which I think they did in Philadelphia naval yard like magnetic degaussing stuff. They never do a full scale experiment right away, they always scale it up.

especially when lab experiments show steel oxidizing black, crumbling to dust, twisting and becoming radioactive like the hutchinson experiment. So they wouldn't have destroyed a whole destroyer ship in the middle of worldwar2. Gimme a break.

and bielek only died not from the radiation from the ship, as the montauk people claimed the bulkhead protected them from the phasing into the bulkhead itself for sailors on deck. They were down below with the generators. Anyways bielek's original body only died after he ended up in the future AFTER he was told what year it was(after jumping overboard). Then he started rapidly aging(lost time lock) his brother duncan didn't start rapidly aging. That's what killed him.

Tesla died in january '43, PX experiment was 8 months later in august '43.
So when exactly did he leave the project?

Everyone says he left the experiment early cuz he wasn't given time to synchronize a 3rd generator to stabilize the consciousness of the sailors with the other 2 generators. Claimed it was a simple mechanical linkage issue. Well that's pretty easy to fix. That's supposedly why they phased into the bulkhead and had major problems.

Again, consciousness, just like Al bielek aging but only AFTER he was TOLD what year it was(40yrs in the future) did he start rapidly aging.

so what interaction does consciousness have with time fields?
*cough HDR cough*

 

[lamdo263]

alrighty, tell me what is "electro-force mass"and how is it generated

Electro mass is generate in the case of the Philadelphia Experiment, as a result of the interaction between a charged mass, due to Tesla instruments aboard the Eldredge and time space, or the fabric of time and space. This is an inter-actional effect, that forms a free-space track, through time and space as a resultant of the energy given off from that ship. A raceway of sorts, if you will.

Because of the power used to make the ship go zero, or slipping into a conduit of time and space, that energy was reflectant into that raceway and that was a phenomenal amount of energy. There were three or four different kinds of radiation, that heated the Eldredge so badly, that it had done damage to not only the metal of the ship, but the people aboard it. If was said that their eardrums burst from the amount of sound generated.

If you could go outside of that energy raceway conduit and say with a super hand that would not be affected by what's going on inside of this event, you would find that the energy force would offer resistance, just as matter would. This is electro-force, or having the qualities something like matter without it being matter.

I hope that you understand. Sources from The Philadelphia Experiment article as published by FATE Magazine.

 

[lamdo263]

USS martha vineyard was a private yacht sold to the navy for the purposes of the experiment. Was a merchant marine. This ship was docked across long island sound in connecticut just across from montauk in 1943. Surprise, surprise.

was scrapped shortly afterwards.

There's a problem with what you said here. This is because the metal that makes up the ship, becomes rhyme familiar to both the energies and people as well .Is if an out element of that ship was ever removed, it could never be reused as steel as even after being melted, when in phase with the real Eldredge, would have a re-tendency to zero out. I'm sorry, but this just could not be safely accomplished.

Even if a person, say such as myself, was heavily exposed to time travel and it's effects, say in an uncompensated manner, without safety guards, for the rest of their life, that would be time travel phenomena related, whether they wanted this or not.

So I think we can safely rule out the possibility that the metal from the Eldredge was ever used again. There was a report, that the mast of the Eldredge stands at a government facility in the Southwest desert. Maybe the cut it off and placed it as a homing localizing attractant, so the Eldredge, if it ever got done with its form of time travel would relocate there. I' thinking either White Sands or Tonopah, but am not sure.

I know for a fact they could never use the metal safely from that ship in anything.

 

[NaturalPhilosopher]

Electro mass is generate in the case of the Philadelphia Experiment, as a result of the interaction between a charged mass, due to Tesla instruments aboard the Eldredge and time space, or the fabric of time and space. This is an inter-actional effect, that forms a free-space track, through time and space as a resultant of the energy given off from that ship. A raceway of sorts, if you will.

Because of the power used to make the ship go zero, or slipping into a conduit of time and space, that energy was reflectant into that raceway and that was a phenomenal amount of energy. There were three or four different kinds of radiation, that heated the Eldredge so badly, that it had done damage to not only the metal of the ship, but the people aboard it. If was said that their eardrums burst from the amount of sound generated.

If you could go outside of that energy raceway conduit and say with a super hand that would not be affected by what's going on inside of this event, you would find that the energy force would offer resistance, just as matter would. This is electro-force, or having the qualities something like matter without it being matter.

I hope that you understand. Sources from The Philadelphia Experiment article as published by FATE Magazine.

ok that's the explanation in the article.
what's your opinion of what electro-mass is?
cuz obviously the article doesn't explain how it's made

 

[TimeFlipper]

only question is if they did ship to shore experiments on the eldridge which I think they did in Philadelphia naval yard like magnetic degaussing stuff. They never do a full scale experiment right away, they always scale it up.

especially when lab experiments show steel oxidizing black, crumbling to dust, twisting and becoming radioactive like the hutchinson experiment. So they wouldn't have destroyed a whole destroyer ship in the middle of worldwar2. Gimme a break.

and bielek only died not from the radiation from the ship, as the montauk people claimed the bulkhead protected them from the phasing into the bulkhead itself for sailors on deck. They were down below with the generators. Anyways bielek's original body only died after he ended up in the future AFTER he was told what year it was(after jumping overboard). Then he started rapidly aging(lost time lock) his brother duncan didn't start rapidly aging. That's what killed him.

Tesla died in january '43, PX experiment was 8 months later in august '43.
So when exactly did he leave the project?

Everyone says he left the experiment early cuz he wasn't given time to synchronize a 3rd generator to stabilize the consciousness of the sailors with the other 2 generators. Claimed it was a simple mechanical linkage issue. Well that's pretty easy to fix. That's supposedly why they phased into the bulkhead and had major problems.

Again, consciousness, just like Al bielek aging but only AFTER he was TOLD what year it was(40yrs in the future) did he start rapidly aging.

so what interaction does consciousness have with time fields?
*cough HDR cough*

Thats one of the best postings i have seen from you NP ..

 

[Harte]

"Electro-mass" refers to electromagnetic mass, a property of particles with intrinsic (rest) mass that are charged.
The "electro-mass" is the mass equivalent of the energy of the charged particle in motion.
Particles. With intrinsic mass.
The EM field itself is massless.

Harte

 

[lamdo263]

Thats one of the best postings i have seen from you NP ..

No, in an article interview with Bielek said that all kinds of radiation were present in this conduit that the Eldredge was going through. This means too many differing kinds of radiation that damaged the body.

What caused Bielek to die, was not being able to shift back into what was for him, a normal space time environment that he was from. NOT knowing what his age was. That had nothing to do with it.

The Navy was monitoring this experiment and must also have had the abilities to transfer the spirit soul entity of AL. They knew of a boy, who probably had something geneto-chemically wrong with him and would apex die, at such and such a certain time. So they waited till that boy died and then placed Bieliek's spirit soul entity into the boy, because his body was radiation damaged to such a level.

 

[NaturalPhilosopher]

No, in an article interview with Bielek said that all kinds of radiation were present in this conduit that the Eldredge was going through. This means too many differing kinds of radiation that damaged the body.

What caused Bielek to die, was not being able to shift back into what was for him, a normal space time environment that he was from. NOT knowing what his age was. That had nothing to do with it.

The Navy was monitoring this experiment and must also have had the abilities to transfer the spirit soul entity of AL. They knew of a boy, who probably had something geneto-chemically wrong with him and would apex die, at such and such a certain time. So they waited till that boy died and then placed Bieliek's spirit soul entity into the boy, because his body was radiation damaged to such a level.

duncan didn't die, they jumped over together.
montauk book clearly said when edward cameron(al bielek) arrived he was fine with his brother. ONLY when told what date it was did he start rapidly aging decades. He died from old age.

they both were 40yrs in the future(1983).

 

[TimeFlipper]

No, in an article interview with Bielek said that all kinds of radiation were present in this conduit that the Eldredge was going through. This means too many differing kinds of radiation that damaged the body.

What caused Bielek to die, was not being able to shift back into what was for him, a normal space time environment that he was from. NOT knowing what his age was. That had nothing to do with it.

The Navy was monitoring this experiment and must also have had the abilities to transfer the spirit soul entity of AL. They knew of a boy, who probably had something geneto-chemically wrong with him and would apex die, at such and such a certain time. So they waited till that boy died and then placed Bieliek's spirit soul entity into the boy, because his body was radiation damaged to such a level.

The reply i made to NaturalPhilosopher was my own opinion on what he wrote which was very good...Specifically, what article interview are you talking about where Al Bielek "himself" said, all kinds of radiation were present in this conduit that the Eldridge was going through, etc, etc, etc?..

 

[lamdo263]

duncan didn't die, they jumped over together.
montauk book clearly said when edward cameron(al bielek) arrived he was fine with his brother. ONLY when told what date it was did he start rapidly aging decades. He died from old age.

they both were 40yrs in the future(1983).

No he did not die of old age, la la la.