Does the positive side of tribalism/racism outshine the negative side?

[QPN]

Same species? Okay, let me ask you a serious question...Is race real? Because if it isn't then diversity isn't real. Then that would mean that evolution isn't real. And if that is true, then it has all a dream. Nothing is real, because we are i a matrix. A matrix that is about to reboot itself

In my opinion race is nothing more than a human defined logical construct to explain/describe difference & similarity. This can be seen in the idea that if you compare 2 or more people all the way down at the elementary subatomic level then these people come up as being exact similarities because their cells are all made up of the exact same types of elementary subatomic particles. If you compare 2 or more people all the way down at the atomic level then these people come up, again, as being almost exact similarities because their cells are all pretty much made up of the exact same types of atoms. However if you compare 2 or more people down at the molecular level then these people come up as being inexact similarities or inexact opposites because while their cells are molecularly made up of some of the exact same types of molecules and or molecular patterns their cells are also made of different types of molecules and or molecular patterns. In fact it is to my understanding that unless you are an identical twin this is true for every person on this plant. You see race is nothing more than a molecular difference because again physiologically every person on this planet is nothing more than a different combination and or permutation of the exact same thing.

Yes but a necessary one for evolution right? Tribalism was and is necessary for the identification of threats, right? After all, there are still African tribes that live in the same area that are mortal enemies, aren't there?

No! If you are a parent with a child in a room full of perverts does the threat against your child have to do with tribalism or a sick disgusting way of thinking? You see under the context of your question tribalism is nothing more than a way to justify the hateful & destructive actions that groups of people choose to do against other groups of people. Which in turn is put in place by the way these people choose to think. Tribalism/racism is nothing more than a way of thinking because if you take consciousness out of the body there is no tribalism/racism.

Nothing is real, because we are i a matrix

I agree! I believe that we humans exist of and inside an extremely super massive astronomically large informationally physical & physically informational multidimensional polarized complex truth quantum logical matrix derived of a digital resolution of multiple different instances of a specialized form entangle-able & un-entangle-able self processing & self maintaining quantum mathematical information.

 

[NaturalPhilosopher]

overall if groups get big enough...they only produce evil.

walmart was great when small, now evil
early catholic church was great, now evil
early federal gov was great, now evil

small groups work
smallest group is the family

 

[QPN]

Because the way that we think dictates the things that we do we humans as individuals & as a group choose what happens to ourselves and or each other by choosing to embrace one way of thinking over another. Good is a way of being as put in place by embracing the way of thinking of the light & evil is a way of being as put in place by embracing the way of thinking of the darkness.

 

[Witch Hunt]

In my opinion race is nothing more than a human defined logical construct to explain/describe difference & similarity.

You are absolutely correct. And do you know what else is a human defined logical construct? EVERYTHING! Everywhere you go in the world, regardless of language or customs, a mountain, a knife and and infant....is known as a mountain, a knife and an infant. Tall people are known a tall people and dumb people are known as dumb.

You see race is nothing more than a molecular difference because again physiologically every person on this planet is nothing more than a different combination and or permutation of the exact same thing.

That's great, that's wonderful, really. That is the standard post-modernist response that you get when someone questions why one race is better at something than another. And you are right, on the atomic level we may be statistically equal. However, when humans roll off the assembly line, you have to admit that there are definitely different models. Come on man! Some people are just better at certain things than others.

No! If you are a parent with a child in a room full of perverts does the threat against your child have to do with tribalism or a sick disgusting way of thinking?

How do you know that they are perverts? Are they wearing signs? Are they telling you that they are perverts? Or do they look like perverts? And just what does a pervert look like? Look like? Look like? LOOK LIKE? Isn't that a form of tribalism? A parent is trying to protect their child right?

You see under the context of your question tribalism is nothing more than a way to justify the hateful & destructive actions that groups of people choose to do against other groups of people. Which in turn is put in place by the way these people choose to think. Tribalism/racism is nothing more than a way of thinking because if you take consciousness out of the body there is no tribalism/racism.

It is also a way to protect your particular tribe or family from threats that are not recognized or are different than them. Tribalism is the first step man took on the road to civilization. It is not a bad thing.

 

[Gnostic Christian]

altruistic

Synonymous with selfish in this case, which is the motivator through our selfish gene.

We may be too good to each other, too altruistic; to where we have lost control of our eco system at home, because we may be to tolerance.

BTW, not knowing what will ail our DNA in the future, perhaps a Covid reminder here, every gene sequence and DNA line could be the one that saves the human race from extinction.

In that one sense, we are all born equal.

If not in ours then in the animal world whose lines we are forcing into extinction with our divisions and out toleration of them.

That might be the only sense that it can be said to be true.

Holy Christ. A truth in the bible.

Now if only that prick Yahweh would treat us as such the way the Gnostic Christian Jesus does.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Christian]

Because the way that we think dictates the things that we do we humans as individuals & as a group choose what happens to ourselves and or each other by choosing to embrace one way of thinking over another. Good is a way of being as put in place by embracing the way of thinking of the light & evil is a way of being as put in place by embracing the way of thinking of the darkness.

The few choose and the many follow.

The media is owned. Some think we all are.

That is a truth in the sense that without our oligarchs, there would not be any countries.

Regards
DL

 

[Witch Hunt]

I feel like this whole thread is controversy bait .

This is the thing, it shouldn't be controversial. Science isn't about controversy...Facts do not care about your feelings.

 

[Witch Hunt]

Synonymous with selfish in this case, which is the motivator through our selfish gene.

Exactly right.

BTW, not knowing what will ail our DNA in the future, perhaps a Covid reminder here, every gene sequence and DNA line could be the one that saves the human race from extinction.

In that one sense, we are all born equal.

It is a noble sentiment to say that we are all born equal, But I do not think that is the case. l have the same starting point, but things tend to get sorted out along the inherited genes. Genes are a thing, and I hate to keep going back to that but it is real

If not in ours then in the animal world whose lines we are forcing into extinction with our divisions and out toleration of them.

IMO, the only thing that seperates Man from the animals is technology.

 

[Gnostic Christian]

IMO, the only thing that seperates Man from the animals is technology.

Yes. We have better tools to help us make ourselves extinct.

A great trait. Not.

There are chimp experiments that show that in some wys, they think better than human childen.

Chimps will skip redundant steps while children will just keep doing useless steps.

We should get more in tune with our animal side, as collectively, it rules us stupidly.

Regards
DL

 

[Gnostic Christian]

Genes are a thing, and I hate to keep going back to that but it is real

Whatever you end with, it is still nature trying to get you to your best end.

That is the same for all DNA lines and that is why they are all so valuable.

Regards
DL