Will this lead to John Titor's forecast that Japan was "forcefully annexed" before N Day?

Samstwitch

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I totally believe the Chinese government is orchestrating these riots and protests. My sister was in China during the student uprisings at Teneman Square when students were gunned down, fast! The Chinese government has ZERO tolerance for protests. That's why I know this rioting with Japanese has got to be backed by the government, otherwise it would never happen, and it's happening with hundreds of businesses, with thousands of people.

The motive for the Chinese government allowing this event could be to reclaim Japan (and Taiwan). The out-of-control rioting and discord would be the perfect excuse, and 'The People' would support such action. I could see this happening.

Japanese hunker down in China as protests regather
September 17, 2012 - BEIJING/TOKYO (Reuters) - Hundreds of Japanese businesses and the country's embassy suspended services in China on Tuesday, as anti-Japan protests threatened to reignite and drag a territorial dispute between Asia's two biggest economies deeper into crisis.

Two people thought to be Japanese nationals landed on one of the islands at the centre of the dispute, police in Okinawa said, raising fears the move could lead to direct clashes.

China's worst outbreak of anti-Japan sentiment in decades has led to protests and attacks on Japanese companies such as car makers Toyota Motor Corp and Honda Motor Co, forcing them to halt operations. Japanese restaurants have also been attacked and expatriates are staying indoors. More Japanese companies announced closures and suspensions at plants in China on Monday and Tuesday.

The worst of the protests broke out at the weekend and eased on Monday, but tensions escalated again on Tuesday, the anniversary of Japan's 1931 occupation of parts of mainland China, as Chinese protesters regathered. Hundreds of protesters rallied outside the Japanese embassy in Beijing, shouting anti-Japan slogans and throwing water bottles at the building, which was ringed by riot police. In the central city of Changsha, major public squares and shopping centers were cordoned off and patrolled by riot police.
Tensions were also high out at sea, around the disputed group of uninhabited islets at the centre of the dispute. In the East China Sea, the islands are claimed by both Japan and China and contain potentially large gas reserves. A flotilla of around 1,000 Chinese fishing boats are reported by Chinese and Japanese media to be converging on the area, called the Senkaku by Japan and Diaoyu by China, raising the risk that an accident could worsen the situation. Japan said a Chinese fishing patrol boat had broadcast a radio message declaring the waters to be Chinese territory and asking Japanese Coast Guard vessels to leave. It was not clear how many of the Chinese boats had reached the area.

In 2010, a bilateral crisis over the islands erupted after a fishing boat collided with a Japanese Coast Guard vessel.

The Japanese government has set up an information-gathering operation to monitor the movements of the Chinese fishing boats.

JAPANESE EXPATRIATES STAY INDOORS

The long-standing territorial dispute erupted last week when the Japanese government decided to nationalize some of the islands, buying them from a private Japanese owner.

The dispute has paralyzed some major Japanese businesses in China, sending China-exposed Japanese stocks down heavily on the Tokyo stock market and raising concerns about any wider impact on economic and trade ties between the two countries. China, the world's second-largest economy, and Japan, the third-largest, have total two-way trade of around $345 billion.

Mazda Motor Corp has temporarily halted production at its Nanjing factory, which it jointly operates with Chongqing Changan Automobile Co Ltd and Ford Motor Co. Mitsubishi Motors Corp said it would also halt operations at one of its China factories, a joint venture with the Guangzhou Automobile Group Co, on Tuesday, while Yamaha Motor Co also said it was suspending operations at four plants in China. Toyota and Honda said arsonists had badly damaged their stores in the eastern port city of Qingdao at the weekend, prompting Toyota to halt operations at some factories in China. Electronics group Panasonic Corp said it was closing three China factories on Tuesday after two were attacked by mobs and a third, in southeastern Zhuhai, was sabotaged.

The anti-Japan protests are regathering just as the United States, a strong ally of Japan, sends Defense Secretary Leon Panetta on a visit to both countries this week. Panetta has said Washington will not take sides in the territorial dispute and has urged calm and restraint to prevail.

But the rhetoric from Chinese state media struck a different note, with China's state mouthpiece, the People's Daily, linking memories of Japan's occupation of China to its present-day determination to defend Beijing's territorial claims.

"Japan's behavior over the Diaoyu islands issue is a brazen negation of the fruits of the victory in the global war against fascism," the People's Daily said in a commentary.

The paper said Japan's actions showed "it has not sincerely repented its past of wars of invasion and of colonial rule".
 

Ren

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I'm in Tokyo. There could be two possible outcomes. The first outcome is that Japan closes all its factories in China and China will just take those factories. But China will suffer economically because it can no longer do business in Japan and many people in China will lose their jobs. China, of course will take the island and the sea around it. Occupying Japan might be a little more difficult as there are American bases everywhere and very special missiles on land as well as in U.S. submarines deployed all around Japan. It would be the end of the world if China were to try to occupy Japan. The second scenario is that China takes the islands and Japan pulls out its factories. Japan then changes its constitution and begins to construct a nuclear safety net of its own and builds up its army as it did before. This may happen with the emergence of the next conservative Japanese Prime Minister. However, China could finally find mineral deposits in Western China as Russia has when they just discovered their diamond mine. China would then become very wealthy and Japan would beg to join its economic union and later a political Asian federation.
 

Samstwitch

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I'm in Tokyo. There could be two possible outcomes. The first outcome is that Japan closes all its factories in China and China will just take those factories. But China will suffer economically because it can no longer do business in Japan and many people in China will lose their jobs. China, of course will take the island and the sea around it. Occupying Japan might be a little more difficult as there are American bases everywhere and very special missiles on land as well as in U.S. submarines deployed all around Japan. It would be the end of the world if China were to try to occupy Japan. The second scenario is that China takes the islands and Japan pulls out its factories. Japan then changes its constitution and begins to construct a nuclear safety net of its own and builds up its army as it did before. This may happen with the emergence of the next conservative Japanese Prime Minister. However, China could finally find mineral deposits in Western China as Russia has when they just discovered their diamond mine. China would then become very wealthy and Japan would beg to join its economic union and later a political Asian federation.


Thanks for that input, Ren. If John Titor was indeed a Time Traveler, then Japan should be forcefully annexed. I'm very curious to see how this situation between China and Japan plays out.

(However, some events on our timeline have been changed, such as the Olympics were not cancelled, and the outcome of Y2K. So we will have to wait and see.)
 

Ren

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(However, some events on our timeline have been changed, such as the Olympics were not cancelled, and the outcome of Y2K. So we will have to wait and see.)

It is my opinion that none of his dates are correct because he said it was his timeline not ours.
Also, all of the elements of his life similar to "Alas Babylon" may have been his attempt to get us to read that book for further clues. Edgar Cayce and Titor's predictions dove tail. Anybody interested in details should look at Cayce's.
 

Peregrini

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If Titor and Cayce's predictions "dovetail" and since Cayce came first, could it be that, Titor may have been a fan of Cayce and Cayce's words influenced JT's own predictions?
 

Samstwitch

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If Titor and Cayce's predictions "dovetail" and since Cayce came first, could it be that, Titor may have been a fan of Cayce and Cayce's words influenced JT's own predictions?

Your question belongs on debate thread with a topic that deals with whether or not John Titor was a real time traveler. There you might find an answer.
 

Ren

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(However, some events on our timeline have been changed, such as the Olympics were not cancelled, and the outcome of Y2K. So we will have to wait and see.)

Y2K happened but because of those hardware and software upgrades, serious problems were mostly averted. Thanks in part to you. And yes, the Olympics have yet to be cancelled and discontinued.
 

Peregrini

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If Titor and Cayce's predictions "dovetail" and since Cayce came first, could it be that, Titor may have been a fan of Cayce and Cayce's words influenced JT's own predictions?

Your question belongs on debate thread with a topic that deals with whether or not John Titor was a real time traveler. There you might find an answer.

I am not debating whether JT was a TT'er or not. I already know the answer to that question. I was asking a question, of Ren, in a thread that is itself a question, "Will this lead to John Titor's forecast that Japan was "forcefully annexed" before N Day?" It's a question about JT's predictions in a thread that is a question about JT's predictions.
 

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It also does include N. Korea as China is kind of a baby-sitter to them now. If the Leader gets out of hand too much, China will say something to him, and N.Korea has a crazy leader shooting off rockets also. So, no I do not know if it leads to anything more in the future, for I can not tell the future and I am not a time-traveller in that sense, but a lot of people will have opinions.

So here is another question (that was somewhere else I posted also):
Who would you rather have as a President for this Country - a Muslim, a Mormon, or a Rev. Wright listener - prote'ge??
You don't have to say, but that may depend on how the economy goes also, and that is not doing any good at all right now, and I don't see it getting any better.

I guess the word could be - unstable - both here in this Country and also in Europe!
I have no crystal ball to look in either.
 

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