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<blockquote data-quote="StarLord" data-source="post: 40223" data-attributes="member: 44"><p><strong>Re: Al bielek debunked</strong></p><p></p><p><strong><strong> To the average person, the story of a top secret US Navy experiment taking place in the middle of WW II appears fantastic and exciting. Al Bielek is a gifted speaker and lecturer and as a source for PX lore he is very convincing. However, to the critical view of one who has taken a 'crime investigators' point of view, becoming more than a passive reader, becoming very familiar with historic facts of WW II and the technical developments since the war, it becomes obvious that Bielek has merged real facts with fiction; as well he borrowed subjects from other sources, adding them as layers and filler. </strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong>The main story of the Philadelphia Experiment [known as the PX] as Bielek describes it is nothing short of the content of the first Philadelphia Experiment movie released in 1984, starring Michael Parè as sailor John Herdeg. In Bielek's version, Bielek and his brother were those two sailors (depicted in the film) onboard the test ship USS Eldridge. He then adopts the idea of time travel into the future (to the year 1983) from that movie. Other subjects are then borrowed from the well-known Roswell Incident (how the US government made contact with Aliens) and again others from another movie, titled "Alternative III" which relates a story about secret colonies on Mars. Additionally, Bielek incorporates subjects like "remote viewing".</strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong> However, let's return Bielek himself. For about ten years, he didn't provide any 'proof' for any of his claims, except for some underground videos that were of really poor [visual] quality and dealt primarily with what some consider being the spin-off project called the Montauk Project. In 1998, Bielek opened his own web site and there, for the first time in public, he showed what he is refers to as his "family" history. Beside some common photographs of Nikola Tesla and John von Neuman, he presents photographs of his [supposed] father and his brother. </strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong></strong></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><strong><strong>Al Bielek as Edward Cameron</strong></strong></strong></p><p></p><p> <strong><strong>Al Bielek has consistently claimed in all his interviews that he once lived as another person, named "Edward Cameron". Here are the corresponding quotations taken from his interviews: </strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong>From the speech at the<a href="http://www.bielek-debunked.com/MUFON_Int.html" target="_blank"> MUFON Conference</a>, 1990</strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong>The important statements are highlighted.</strong></strong></p><p> <strong><strong><em>"Now I think at this point, I should say where I came into it, both myself and my brother. <span style="color: #00ff00">I was born August 4, 1916, in the New York area, to a Mr. Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr., the father,</span> and <span style="color: #00ff00">a mother who, I don't believe was married from what little research we were able to do.</span> Had a rather uneventful life, but pleasant life, because there was money in the family. <span style="color: #00ff00">My brother was born in May of 1917.</span> And we went on our merry way. Had a ball as it was, didn't have any worries about money. Came the Depression years, we decided to go to school and get an education. <span style="color: #00ff00">He went to the University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland, until he graduated in 1939, in the summer of '39 with a PHD in physics. I went to Princeton, Bachelor's and Master's; I went to Harvard for my doctorate.</span> Earlier, von Neumann said, "You don't want to get your doctorate here at Princeton. Go to Harvard, it's a better school. So I took a doctorate out at Harvard; I think it was in August of '39. In the meantime I should add, there were some other things going in the background, and that background happened to be <span style="color: #00ff00">our father.</span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"></span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: Black"> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</span></span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: Black">You can finish reading the sad story of poor Al Bielek being found out for the fraud that he is in the rest of the site.</span></span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: Black"><a href="http://www.bielek-debunked.com/Cameron%20Issue.html" target="_blank">http://www.bielek-debunked.com/Cameron Issue.html</a></span></span></em></strong></strong></p><p><strong><strong><em><span style="color: #00ff00"><span style="color: Black"></span></span></em></strong></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarLord, post: 40223, member: 44"] [b]Re: Al bielek debunked[/b] [B][B] To the average person, the story of a top secret US Navy experiment taking place in the middle of WW II appears fantastic and exciting. Al Bielek is a gifted speaker and lecturer and as a source for PX lore he is very convincing. However, to the critical view of one who has taken a 'crime investigators' point of view, becoming more than a passive reader, becoming very familiar with historic facts of WW II and the technical developments since the war, it becomes obvious that Bielek has merged real facts with fiction; as well he borrowed subjects from other sources, adding them as layers and filler. [/B][/B] [B][B]The main story of the Philadelphia Experiment [known as the PX] as Bielek describes it is nothing short of the content of the first Philadelphia Experiment movie released in 1984, starring Michael Parè as sailor John Herdeg. In Bielek's version, Bielek and his brother were those two sailors (depicted in the film) onboard the test ship USS Eldridge. He then adopts the idea of time travel into the future (to the year 1983) from that movie. Other subjects are then borrowed from the well-known Roswell Incident (how the US government made contact with Aliens) and again others from another movie, titled "Alternative III" which relates a story about secret colonies on Mars. Additionally, Bielek incorporates subjects like "remote viewing".[/B][/B] [B][B] However, let's return Bielek himself. For about ten years, he didn't provide any 'proof' for any of his claims, except for some underground videos that were of really poor [visual] quality and dealt primarily with what some consider being the spin-off project called the Montauk Project. In 1998, Bielek opened his own web site and there, for the first time in public, he showed what he is refers to as his "family" history. Beside some common photographs of Nikola Tesla and John von Neuman, he presents photographs of his [supposed] father and his brother. [/B][/B] [B][B][B]Al Bielek as Edward Cameron[/B][/B][/B] [B][B]Al Bielek has consistently claimed in all his interviews that he once lived as another person, named "Edward Cameron". Here are the corresponding quotations taken from his interviews: [/B][/B] [B][B]From the speech at the[URL="http://www.bielek-debunked.com/MUFON_Int.html"] MUFON Conference[/URL], 1990 The important statements are highlighted.[/B][/B] [B][B][I]"Now I think at this point, I should say where I came into it, both myself and my brother. [COLOR=#00ff00]I was born August 4, 1916, in the New York area, to a Mr. Alexander Duncan Cameron, Sr., the father,[/COLOR] and [COLOR=#00ff00]a mother who, I don't believe was married from what little research we were able to do.[/COLOR] Had a rather uneventful life, but pleasant life, because there was money in the family. [COLOR=#00ff00]My brother was born in May of 1917.[/COLOR] And we went on our merry way. Had a ball as it was, didn't have any worries about money. Came the Depression years, we decided to go to school and get an education. [COLOR=#00ff00]He went to the University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh, Scotland, until he graduated in 1939, in the summer of '39 with a PHD in physics. I went to Princeton, Bachelor's and Master's; I went to Harvard for my doctorate.[/COLOR] Earlier, von Neumann said, "You don't want to get your doctorate here at Princeton. Go to Harvard, it's a better school. So I took a doctorate out at Harvard; I think it was in August of '39. In the meantime I should add, there were some other things going in the background, and that background happened to be [COLOR=#00ff00]our father. [COLOR=Black] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You can finish reading the sad story of poor Al Bielek being found out for the fraud that he is in the rest of the site. [url]http://www.bielek-debunked.com/Cameron%20Issue.html[/url] [/COLOR][/COLOR][/I][/B][/B] [/QUOTE]
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