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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 85870" data-attributes="member: 443"><p>Necroposting a bit to illustrate how many ideas around here get recycled:</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>IMO, the idea that people won't post here if there is someone here holding them to their claims is an appeal for traffic, which I completely understand.</p><p> </p><p>However, I'm "traffic" too.</p><p> </p><p>If a person posts here that the Anunnaki came from Niburu, for example, then I provide a service to that person and all subsequent readers regarding the fraudulent nature of that claim. This actually occurred in this old thread.</p><p> </p><p>It is impossible to have a discussion with only one viewpoint, and the point of view I provide is the valid one, as opposed to the fraud-based one.</p><p> </p><p>Maybe I'm a little negative in some posts. But I chalk that up to the fact that the claims I address are made over and over all over the internet and it's very frustrating that, even in a thread where I provide quotes and links to materials that show the claim is a fraud, a later post (sometimes the very next post) just picks up the fraudulent claim again and runs with it.</p><p> </p><p>I feel that, if a poster has any imagination, they can speculate on topics (like the Anunnaki) in an intelligent manner, avoiding frauds like Sitchin and his bogus interpretations of cylinder seal imprints.</p><p> </p><p>That said, I want to address another post in this old thread:</p><p></p><p>Now, I always liked Mudpuppy, though Mudpuppy was quite the Ancient Aliens believer. I suspect she was posting a lot of the fringe material she posted here for the purposes of traffic, as I mentioned above.</p><p> </p><p>But the quote above illustrates how Tsoukalos and his pals on that show have no qualms about outright lying in order to prop up their dead "theory."</p><p> </p><p>See, the al-khitat is an Arab text, written by al-Maqrizi in or around 1400 AD. The likelihood that the Arabs knew anything at all about pyramid construction is quite small, when you stop to think about the fact that Herodotus, 1900 years earlier, reported what the Egyptians told him about it and he turned out to be wrong.</p><p> </p><p>At any rate, the text by al-Maqrizi (the al-khitat) VERY clearly states that the pyramids were built by the Egyptians and mentions nothing whatsoever about any "guardians in the sky" being involved.</p><p> </p><p>You can read excerpts of the text <a href="http://www.jasoncolavito.com/al-maqrizi-on-the-pyramids.html" target="_blank">here</a>, translated from the French (the al-khitat has never, to my knowledge, seen an English publication.)</p><p> </p><p>The same source (<a href="http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/what-the-ancient-arabs-said-about-aliens-and-pyramids-in-egypt" target="_blank">different page</a>) gives us the following:</p><p></p><p> </p><p>It may be of interest to readers here that the al-khitat does provide us with the story of how arabs broke into the Great Pyramid, and what they found. You can read that at the first link</p><p> </p><p>Now, the fact that the GP was broken into by Arabs is an accepted truth of Egyptology (there's a big hole in the side.) What was claimed to be inside turns out not to have any basis.</p><p> </p><p>The point is, Tsoukalos fabricted the story about alien influence. Well, fabricated it himself or simply parroted another fringe author's original lie. This is typical of the "Ancient Aliens" crowd - find an obscure source that nobody can read and then make outrageous and false claims about what it says.</p><p> </p><p>Hope this post wasn't too "negative." LOL</p><p> </p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 85870, member: 443"] Necroposting a bit to illustrate how many ideas around here get recycled: IMO, the idea that people won't post here if there is someone here holding them to their claims is an appeal for traffic, which I completely understand. However, I'm "traffic" too. If a person posts here that the Anunnaki came from Niburu, for example, then I provide a service to that person and all subsequent readers regarding the fraudulent nature of that claim. This actually occurred in this old thread. It is impossible to have a discussion with only one viewpoint, and the point of view I provide is the valid one, as opposed to the fraud-based one. Maybe I'm a little negative in some posts. But I chalk that up to the fact that the claims I address are made over and over all over the internet and it's very frustrating that, even in a thread where I provide quotes and links to materials that show the claim is a fraud, a later post (sometimes the very next post) just picks up the fraudulent claim again and runs with it. I feel that, if a poster has any imagination, they can speculate on topics (like the Anunnaki) in an intelligent manner, avoiding frauds like Sitchin and his bogus interpretations of cylinder seal imprints. That said, I want to address another post in this old thread: Now, I always liked Mudpuppy, though Mudpuppy was quite the Ancient Aliens believer. I suspect she was posting a lot of the fringe material she posted here for the purposes of traffic, as I mentioned above. But the quote above illustrates how Tsoukalos and his pals on that show have no qualms about outright lying in order to prop up their dead "theory." See, the al-khitat is an Arab text, written by al-Maqrizi in or around 1400 AD. The likelihood that the Arabs knew anything at all about pyramid construction is quite small, when you stop to think about the fact that Herodotus, 1900 years earlier, reported what the Egyptians told him about it and he turned out to be wrong. At any rate, the text by al-Maqrizi (the al-khitat) VERY clearly states that the pyramids were built by the Egyptians and mentions nothing whatsoever about any "guardians in the sky" being involved. You can read excerpts of the text [URL='http://www.jasoncolavito.com/al-maqrizi-on-the-pyramids.html']here[/URL], translated from the French (the al-khitat has never, to my knowledge, seen an English publication.) The same source ([URL='http://www.jasoncolavito.com/blog/what-the-ancient-arabs-said-about-aliens-and-pyramids-in-egypt']different page[/URL]) gives us the following: It may be of interest to readers here that the al-khitat does provide us with the story of how arabs broke into the Great Pyramid, and what they found. You can read that at the first link Now, the fact that the GP was broken into by Arabs is an accepted truth of Egyptology (there's a big hole in the side.) What was claimed to be inside turns out not to have any basis. The point is, Tsoukalos fabricted the story about alien influence. Well, fabricated it himself or simply parroted another fringe author's original lie. This is typical of the "Ancient Aliens" crowd - find an obscure source that nobody can read and then make outrageous and false claims about what it says. Hope this post wasn't too "negative." LOL Harte [/QUOTE]
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