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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 34098" data-attributes="member: 443"><p><strong>Re: Cern</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>KC,</p><p> </p><p>While I am an admirer of Newton, I'm afraid his equation on force does not apply in the case of particles and their impacting at speeds near that of light. Or even in the energies of impact and momentum at Newtonian velocities.</p><p> </p><p>Newton did, however, lay out the mathematics for what <em>does</em> apply to the situation (although at non-relativistic velocities only.)</p><p> </p><p>First of all, the equation you give above does not relate to any energy released on impact.</p><p> </p><p>Secondly, the energy released at impact by two particles, (or elephants, for that matter) depends on what's left after the impact. Though I doubt that elephants could, on their own, accelerate to speeds that, upon impact, would result in the relativistic conversion of mass into energy, there can be no doubt that this is <em>exactly</em> what particles do in an accelerator, even one much much less powerful that the new one at CERN.</p><p> </p><p>To learn about the energies involved in (standard, Newtonian) impact and momentum situations, <a href="http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/bounce.html" target="_blank">HERE's</a> a website with a cute little java applet at the end. Explains the complications fairly well, even if it is in non-relativistic terms.</p><p> </p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 34098, member: 443"] [b]Re: Cern[/b] KC, While I am an admirer of Newton, I'm afraid his equation on force does not apply in the case of particles and their impacting at speeds near that of light. Or even in the energies of impact and momentum at Newtonian velocities. Newton did, however, lay out the mathematics for what [i]does[/i] apply to the situation (although at non-relativistic velocities only.) First of all, the equation you give above does not relate to any energy released on impact. Secondly, the energy released at impact by two particles, (or elephants, for that matter) depends on what's left after the impact. Though I doubt that elephants could, on their own, accelerate to speeds that, upon impact, would result in the relativistic conversion of mass into energy, there can be no doubt that this is [i]exactly[/i] what particles do in an accelerator, even one much much less powerful that the new one at CERN. To learn about the energies involved in (standard, Newtonian) impact and momentum situations, [URL="http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/bounce.html"]HERE's[/URL] a website with a cute little java applet at the end. Explains the complications fairly well, even if it is in non-relativistic terms. Harte [/QUOTE]
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