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<blockquote data-quote="Lucidus" data-source="post: 14853" data-attributes="member: 375"><p><strong>Re: Comaparison to Facism.</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"CaryP\")</div></p><p></p><p>I would say that it is not a fascist state because, as one of the post above states:</p><p></p><p> 7. Obsession with national security.</p><p></p><p>This does not characterize our government. They use it as a buzzword but do not actually defend the nation. My proof? Look at the border with Mexico, every year 1 million people cross this border illegally and our "fascist" government couldn't care less. And the government knows that Al Qeada is forming alliances with Latin American gangs involved in smuggling to get terrorist and materials into the country.</p><p></p><p>Imperialist by contrast, care only about economic concerns and favor the increase in American power abroad as a means to protect those economic concerns. Sure the Imperialist don't want another 9/11, because that was expensive but beyond that security is a secondary concern.</p><p></p><p>This is why our Imperialist government is willing to spend trillions on "defense" in the Middle East but only token efforts are made at home.</p><p></p><p>Our government is not a dictatorship(yet) because, because so far our presidents have only exercised the powers vested in them by the constitution, the courts, and the congress. Now these powers are far greater than the founding fathers intended, but this increase in executive power has been going on for well over one hundred years and has been celebrated by both major parties.</p><p></p><p>It seems more than just a little hypocritical that the left wing in this country has been so willing to enthusiastically support the concentration of power in Washington for so long, then cry fowl when they start to fear that power. Its kinda ironic.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I envy you if you can remember another America. This is the America I grew up in, only more so.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>I say meaningless because most Americans still believe that there is a difference between the two parties. Bashing Bush and his administration isn't going to change a thing. Count on it. Just like bashing Clinton didn't change anything either.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Well, I respect your opinion too, but I respectfully disagree. And sorry about calling that link earlier moronic. You are certainly not moronic and I apologize. I should know better. It has been my experience that someone's political opinions do not correlate with intelligence, but rather with experience and memes, but that is another discussion entirely.</p><p></p><p>P.S. Thanks for the Raimado article, I read his columns occasionally and really enjoy them. But as the article makes clear, we are not currently in a fascist state but rather one more major terrorist attack from it. This much I can agree with and if it comes to pass(God forbid) then everyone will understand that what we have now is clearly not fascism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucidus, post: 14853, member: 375"] [b]Re: Comaparison to Facism.[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"CaryP\")</div> I would say that it is not a fascist state because, as one of the post above states: 7. Obsession with national security. This does not characterize our government. They use it as a buzzword but do not actually defend the nation. My proof? Look at the border with Mexico, every year 1 million people cross this border illegally and our "fascist" government couldn't care less. And the government knows that Al Qeada is forming alliances with Latin American gangs involved in smuggling to get terrorist and materials into the country. Imperialist by contrast, care only about economic concerns and favor the increase in American power abroad as a means to protect those economic concerns. Sure the Imperialist don't want another 9/11, because that was expensive but beyond that security is a secondary concern. This is why our Imperialist government is willing to spend trillions on "defense" in the Middle East but only token efforts are made at home. Our government is not a dictatorship(yet) because, because so far our presidents have only exercised the powers vested in them by the constitution, the courts, and the congress. Now these powers are far greater than the founding fathers intended, but this increase in executive power has been going on for well over one hundred years and has been celebrated by both major parties. It seems more than just a little hypocritical that the left wing in this country has been so willing to enthusiastically support the concentration of power in Washington for so long, then cry fowl when they start to fear that power. Its kinda ironic. I envy you if you can remember another America. This is the America I grew up in, only more so. I say meaningless because most Americans still believe that there is a difference between the two parties. Bashing Bush and his administration isn't going to change a thing. Count on it. Just like bashing Clinton didn't change anything either. Well, I respect your opinion too, but I respectfully disagree. And sorry about calling that link earlier moronic. You are certainly not moronic and I apologize. I should know better. It has been my experience that someone's political opinions do not correlate with intelligence, but rather with experience and memes, but that is another discussion entirely. P.S. Thanks for the Raimado article, I read his columns occasionally and really enjoy them. But as the article makes clear, we are not currently in a fascist state but rather one more major terrorist attack from it. This much I can agree with and if it comes to pass(God forbid) then everyone will understand that what we have now is clearly not fascism. [/QUOTE]
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