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<blockquote data-quote="Eddy_P" data-source="post: 38688" data-attributes="member: 581"><p><strong>Re: DOOPArts: documented-out-of-place artifacts</strong></p><p></p><p>PART 2</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Do they cease to exist due to this alteration, or does it reproduce a second thread of time ?</span></p><p></p><p>They (the time travellers) would not cease to exist for two reasons;</p><p>(1) history wasn''t changed (that much);</p><p>(2) they were visitors to the 600BC time frame and as such are exclusive from that time line, meaning that even if they died back then, this would have no consequence upon them being born in the future.</p><p></p><p>If things were changed, a new thread of time would be produced (not a second) that would overwrite history as we know it.</p><p>This is why (as Pegg says) the visits to the past were not to CHANGE things, but to place the warnings and evidence of these things plus the names and dates of the people who were going to find this information, and tell of it.</p><p>Finding out about it in the year 2000 as we did, has not changed history.</p><p>Nostradamus knew of this in the mid 1500s, but as his messages were encoded, and only decoded recently by Pegg, then history was not changed in the 1500s (even though future information was known at that time).</p><p>Also, you mention, I believe, 3 different prophets in different time periods. Did the travellers realize their mistake after the first encounter, and travel back to attempt to warn an earlier chosen one ?</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Pegg asserts that each subsequent visit ended up being a mistake.</span></p><p><span style="color: Red">But as many people have pointed out to me, to have the technology to travel back in time - would you be so stupid as to make the same mistake over thirty times !</span></p><p></p><p>I believe that in order to NOT CHANGE history, time travel back-steps have been conducted to place hints and clues in ancient texts (actual modern historical events and imagery from modern cd-roms) so that the ''mistake'' of the very first time travel experiment that caused the domino effect of religions being spawned would be acknowledged and corrected at this end of time rather than back in the past.</p><p></p><p>I see it this way:</p><p>At some time, a time travel experiment to show off the ''new toy'' (time travel machine) took a computer and the cd-roms back to the past to show the ancient Middle Eastern people what their future holds. But the Chrononauts were perceived as ''angels'' and the voice from the apparatus showing the images of gods - as ''the voice of GOD''.</p><p>The early "stone from heaven'' cults were due to some people viewing the RedShift2 astronomy cd-rom and basing their ''religion'' on the shown images.</p><p>Other groups viewed the Ancients cd-rom with the Flood and Creation myths being spawned (as too the Atlantis and Greek & Roman classical legends), while the visual (1991 Persian Gulf War) history from the Grolier cd-rom provided the ''history'' that appears in some books of the Old Testament (misinterpreted into the stories of festivals).</p><p></p><p>To correct these local ''mistakes'' back-step visits were made to 600BC, with those encounters in Babylon being documented by the King of Babylon, Ezekiel, and Daniel.</p><p>To correct the local ''Christian mistakes'' made by Paul and the Gospel writers, a back-step visit was made to John (on Patmos island).</p><p>To try to correct these on-going ''mistakes'' a visit was made to Mohammed in 600AD and then to Joseph Smith in 1827.</p><p>Moving away from trying to correct the spawning of religions, new sets of back-steps were made to people such as Nostradamus in the mid 1500s (and other historical people who appear to have unusual knowledge future history, technology, or medical know-how).</p><p>Many back-steps were made to nearly every place, time, and civilization on our planet in order to place ''hints and clues'' of all this in their various texts and artworks.</p><p>Ronald Pegg has found many of these clues - and has matched the described imagery and history to the contents of four particular modern cd-roms (and two history books).</p><p></p><p>If we were to go back to the past and STOP all the religions forming due to the first TT mistake, then our current history would be wiped - and we would not be here. All that would be left would be physical monuments that are able to stand thousand of years which leave us wondering how they were constructed (as all the technology would be lost when history was rewritten).</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">Why not just go back in time to just right before you went back in time in the first place and stop yourself from making the mistake in the first place ?</span></p><p></p><p>Our world society is made up of countries that have based their various religious beliefs upon the understanding of their prophet''s misunderstood account of his encounter with a time traveller and what he was told and shown. Many world empires and countries were assembled according to these beliefs and have resulted in the cultures and societies that we now see in the 21st century.</p><p></p><p>If we were to go back to ''the day before'' the very first misunderstanding was made, and stop the first time traveller from speaking to the Mesopotamian people, then ideally the non-encounter would result in the various religious beliefs not emerging - problem solved.</p><p></p><p>BUT - if no religions emerged (as our history has shown), then those history books would then not be written, and everything and everyone that has lived and died since that very first ''time encounter'' would cease to exist - because if we wipe clean the effect of the first time encounter, we wipe all of our history and we wipe away ourselves.</p><p></p><p>This is why (Mr Pegg concludes) the various attempts to correct the very first time encounter occurred progressively over time but in a forward time stream. In this way the past would not be deleted, nor would the present, and the world as we know it would remain the same until the hidden and encoded messages in the ancient texts were discovered and revealed.</p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">How do you overcome the obvious paradox of time travel ?</span></p><p></p><p>We do not understand how time travel may work, nor do we know how to build a time machine. But instead of spending time on things we do not know, we utilized our time examining the things that we can observe and evaluate. We considered Pegg''s claims one by one, and to date, most of them have been verified.</p><p></p><p>As an analogy, to drive our cars we do not need to know how to build one or know how the internal electronics work - we just learn the essentials and drive around.</p><p></p><p>Based upon Pegg''s research and evidence plus our own research and findings, the conclusion we derive is one of technological Time Travel. How it may work we do not know, but a large sequence of imagery and historical content from particular modern cd-roms are documented in ancient texts.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Navy">Is the notion of a ''paradox of time'' just a figure of speech - a convenient mind set by people who do not yet understand ?</span></p><p></p><p>.</p><p></p><p><span style="color: Red">If the time travellers made contact with the various "prophets" and showed them visions of the future, could this not act to change the future they had predicted ?</span></p><p></p><p>Yes, if it was not done properly.</p><p>The first rule of Time Travel would be not to go back to an earlier time to actually change anything. The only way to make change is to pick a future point in time at which the whole world''s Religious systems will be eliminated and the concept of divine gods or God can be dismissed. (This could be before or after a time machine is invented, as once invented, it would have access to any time era.)</p><p>Prior to this ''future point in time'' (say December in the year 2012), the mistakes need to be found and acknowledged, then acted upon.</p><p></p><p>Once advised (by reading Pegg''s work for example), the Time Machine people would arrange for time travel back-steps so that warnings can be given to ancient people who then write it all down. This ''future information'' would then sit in ancient texts, misunderstood as part of the world''s arcane mysteries, until someone recognizes it after those ''future event'' actually occur. Then knowing was has occurred, steps can be taken to tell the people the truth about the origins of Religions.</p><p></p><p>In this way, the future as told to the ancient prophets happens as documented - including the formation of Religions plus the wars and other problems they spawned. Then once discovered and verified, at a certain point of time (say 12th October 2000) it can be announced that "the world''s Religions sprouted due to time travel encounters". The discoveries first need to be verified and publicized, then a future point of time can be selected at which the world may be able to look forward to a new era without Religions and their associated cleansing wars and retribution.</p><p></p><p>...fin</p><p></p><p>Examining DOOPArts may be the first step, being the contents of the Ancients cd-rom being described in ancient texts.</p><p>The next may be examining the matching documented modern historical and astronomical events from the Grolier and RedShift2 cd-roms that have also been documented in ancient texts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eddy_P, post: 38688, member: 581"] [b]Re: DOOPArts: documented-out-of-place artifacts[/b] PART 2 [COLOR=Red]Do they cease to exist due to this alteration, or does it reproduce a second thread of time ?[/COLOR] They (the time travellers) would not cease to exist for two reasons; (1) history wasn''t changed (that much); (2) they were visitors to the 600BC time frame and as such are exclusive from that time line, meaning that even if they died back then, this would have no consequence upon them being born in the future. If things were changed, a new thread of time would be produced (not a second) that would overwrite history as we know it. This is why (as Pegg says) the visits to the past were not to CHANGE things, but to place the warnings and evidence of these things plus the names and dates of the people who were going to find this information, and tell of it. Finding out about it in the year 2000 as we did, has not changed history. Nostradamus knew of this in the mid 1500s, but as his messages were encoded, and only decoded recently by Pegg, then history was not changed in the 1500s (even though future information was known at that time). Also, you mention, I believe, 3 different prophets in different time periods. Did the travellers realize their mistake after the first encounter, and travel back to attempt to warn an earlier chosen one ? [COLOR=Red]Pegg asserts that each subsequent visit ended up being a mistake. But as many people have pointed out to me, to have the technology to travel back in time - would you be so stupid as to make the same mistake over thirty times ![/COLOR] I believe that in order to NOT CHANGE history, time travel back-steps have been conducted to place hints and clues in ancient texts (actual modern historical events and imagery from modern cd-roms) so that the ''mistake'' of the very first time travel experiment that caused the domino effect of religions being spawned would be acknowledged and corrected at this end of time rather than back in the past. I see it this way: At some time, a time travel experiment to show off the ''new toy'' (time travel machine) took a computer and the cd-roms back to the past to show the ancient Middle Eastern people what their future holds. But the Chrononauts were perceived as ''angels'' and the voice from the apparatus showing the images of gods - as ''the voice of GOD''. The early "stone from heaven'' cults were due to some people viewing the RedShift2 astronomy cd-rom and basing their ''religion'' on the shown images. Other groups viewed the Ancients cd-rom with the Flood and Creation myths being spawned (as too the Atlantis and Greek & Roman classical legends), while the visual (1991 Persian Gulf War) history from the Grolier cd-rom provided the ''history'' that appears in some books of the Old Testament (misinterpreted into the stories of festivals). To correct these local ''mistakes'' back-step visits were made to 600BC, with those encounters in Babylon being documented by the King of Babylon, Ezekiel, and Daniel. To correct the local ''Christian mistakes'' made by Paul and the Gospel writers, a back-step visit was made to John (on Patmos island). To try to correct these on-going ''mistakes'' a visit was made to Mohammed in 600AD and then to Joseph Smith in 1827. Moving away from trying to correct the spawning of religions, new sets of back-steps were made to people such as Nostradamus in the mid 1500s (and other historical people who appear to have unusual knowledge future history, technology, or medical know-how). Many back-steps were made to nearly every place, time, and civilization on our planet in order to place ''hints and clues'' of all this in their various texts and artworks. Ronald Pegg has found many of these clues - and has matched the described imagery and history to the contents of four particular modern cd-roms (and two history books). If we were to go back to the past and STOP all the religions forming due to the first TT mistake, then our current history would be wiped - and we would not be here. All that would be left would be physical monuments that are able to stand thousand of years which leave us wondering how they were constructed (as all the technology would be lost when history was rewritten). [COLOR=Red]Why not just go back in time to just right before you went back in time in the first place and stop yourself from making the mistake in the first place ?[/COLOR] Our world society is made up of countries that have based their various religious beliefs upon the understanding of their prophet''s misunderstood account of his encounter with a time traveller and what he was told and shown. Many world empires and countries were assembled according to these beliefs and have resulted in the cultures and societies that we now see in the 21st century. If we were to go back to ''the day before'' the very first misunderstanding was made, and stop the first time traveller from speaking to the Mesopotamian people, then ideally the non-encounter would result in the various religious beliefs not emerging - problem solved. BUT - if no religions emerged (as our history has shown), then those history books would then not be written, and everything and everyone that has lived and died since that very first ''time encounter'' would cease to exist - because if we wipe clean the effect of the first time encounter, we wipe all of our history and we wipe away ourselves. This is why (Mr Pegg concludes) the various attempts to correct the very first time encounter occurred progressively over time but in a forward time stream. In this way the past would not be deleted, nor would the present, and the world as we know it would remain the same until the hidden and encoded messages in the ancient texts were discovered and revealed. [COLOR=Red]How do you overcome the obvious paradox of time travel ?[/COLOR] We do not understand how time travel may work, nor do we know how to build a time machine. But instead of spending time on things we do not know, we utilized our time examining the things that we can observe and evaluate. We considered Pegg''s claims one by one, and to date, most of them have been verified. As an analogy, to drive our cars we do not need to know how to build one or know how the internal electronics work - we just learn the essentials and drive around. Based upon Pegg''s research and evidence plus our own research and findings, the conclusion we derive is one of technological Time Travel. How it may work we do not know, but a large sequence of imagery and historical content from particular modern cd-roms are documented in ancient texts. [COLOR=Navy]Is the notion of a ''paradox of time'' just a figure of speech - a convenient mind set by people who do not yet understand ?[/COLOR] . [COLOR=Red]If the time travellers made contact with the various "prophets" and showed them visions of the future, could this not act to change the future they had predicted ?[/COLOR] Yes, if it was not done properly. The first rule of Time Travel would be not to go back to an earlier time to actually change anything. The only way to make change is to pick a future point in time at which the whole world''s Religious systems will be eliminated and the concept of divine gods or God can be dismissed. (This could be before or after a time machine is invented, as once invented, it would have access to any time era.) Prior to this ''future point in time'' (say December in the year 2012), the mistakes need to be found and acknowledged, then acted upon. Once advised (by reading Pegg''s work for example), the Time Machine people would arrange for time travel back-steps so that warnings can be given to ancient people who then write it all down. This ''future information'' would then sit in ancient texts, misunderstood as part of the world''s arcane mysteries, until someone recognizes it after those ''future event'' actually occur. Then knowing was has occurred, steps can be taken to tell the people the truth about the origins of Religions. In this way, the future as told to the ancient prophets happens as documented - including the formation of Religions plus the wars and other problems they spawned. Then once discovered and verified, at a certain point of time (say 12th October 2000) it can be announced that "the world''s Religions sprouted due to time travel encounters". The discoveries first need to be verified and publicized, then a future point of time can be selected at which the world may be able to look forward to a new era without Religions and their associated cleansing wars and retribution. ...fin Examining DOOPArts may be the first step, being the contents of the Ancients cd-rom being described in ancient texts. The next may be examining the matching documented modern historical and astronomical events from the Grolier and RedShift2 cd-roms that have also been documented in ancient texts. [/QUOTE]
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