Himalayan Hermit
Senior Member
I'm curious if anyone here has purchased Dr. Z's HDR units, and if yes, have you used them and gotten any results?
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Dr. Z's HDR and Experience
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Killer Alienz
New Member
I'm considering purchasing MVR from Dr. Z and also want to know who has used them and gotten results. I want to physically travel back in time 2 years ago to meet my younger self
Einstein
Temporal Engineer
Are you already skilled in the art of astral projection? It's a basic requirement before even considering giving an MVR a try. Without being an advanced astral projectionist, the MVR is useless. And even if you are, there is no guarantee the MVR will work for you.
Killer Alienz
New Member
No. I want to physically time travel, not astrally. I found a map of ley lines in my state and there's 2 ley lines in towns adjacent to mine in the book. Can't I also find ley lines near my house with EMF reader?
Killer Alienz
New Member
Isn't using HDR or MVR over ley line / grid point what's required for physical time travel? I know Tron1, HDRKid, Pegii. NaturalPhilosopher, dh1 claim to have had success at it...
Einstein
Temporal Engineer
Very few people succeed. All the people you mention were skilled in the art of astral projection. I think it is a part of your brain that you have to develop first. If you can't walk first how will you ever learn to run?
Killer Alienz
New Member
I astral projected a few times, a long, long time ago. Years ago. When I was younger and healthier. That's why I want to go back 2 years ago. To talk to my younger self and see if I can steer him on a better path. Apparently Gibbs thought you can change the past with HDR.. Change the past with the HDR
Himalayan Hermit
Senior Member
I do want to add a bit more context here. Steven Gibbs never said it publicly that you could change your direct past. I don't think there is any interview of his that I have not heard. Trust me I was another level obsessed with the man once. There is one interview, in which he said "yes I can easily tweak the HDR tuning, so IF you do travel back > you're travelling to your direct past". He neither suggested nor recommended to mess up the past. This goes with the understanding that one thing he always said - if and when you do travel back to the past - you're always traveling to an alternate timeline - to avoid all sorts of Paradoxes.
In my personal belief, a thing such as past can only be influenced or changed by enlightened beings. Definitely not through the HDR unit. The universe is much smarter than that to allow this to happen IMHO.
This then opens up the question - what if I successfully astrally project myself to my OWN (direct) past. The answer is - nothing will happen. The individual in that time-span will neither see nor feel your astral/spirit self. So what could you achieve other than just observe.
I have been on this site for 10+ yrs and I can't count the number of times the question has come up, wanting to travel physically back to your own past to change something. Every single episode in our life is related to a thousand other things - whether we realize or not. So it's not that simple.
I don't know what MVR is - but assuming some other device other than HDR that Dr. Z is making.
Anyhow! Long post, but wanted to share my POV. Wishing you all the very best for your travels and hope you come back to share if you succeed.
Parazite1986
Member
Physically time traveling is possible but it takes your personal energy to travel to either the past or future. That's why I had to go rest to travel in time. Like others say, astral projection is a first step in time travel.
