Grace has an end -limit atonement

[OneIsTheWord]

The Dispensation of Grace from Christ to this present time
Time frame about 2,000 years

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-We begin in Ephesians 3:1-5 For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles-- if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, how that by revelation.
He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as the Spirit has now revealed it to His holy apostles and prophets:

Eph 1:9-12 Having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times. He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth--in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, which we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.

Proverbs 29:26 Many seek the ruler’s favor, but justice comes from the LORD.

Daniel 2:20-22 Daniel answered and said: "Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, For wisdom and might are His.
And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding.
He reveals deep and secret things; He knows what is in the darkness, And light dwells with Him.



Psalm 75:7 But God is the Judge: He puts down one, And exalts another.

Psalm 58:11 So that men will say, "Surely there is a reward for the righteous; Surely He is God who judges in the earth."

Habakkuk 3:2 O LORD, I have heard your speech and was afraid; O LORD, revive Your work in the midst of the years!
During the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy.

Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near, Even the day of the LORD is near; It will be a day of clouds, the time of the Gentiles.

Joel 2:1-2 Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand:
A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations.


Zephaniah 1:7-11 Be silent in the presence of the Lord GOD; For the day of the LORD is at hand, For the LORD has prepared a sacrifice; He has invited His guests. "And it shall be, In the day of the LORD'S sacrifice, That I will punish the princes and the king's children, And all such as are clothed with foreign apparel.
On the same day, I will punish All those who leap over the threshold, Who fill their masters' houses with violence and deceit.
"And there shall be on that day," says the LORD, "The sound of a mournful cry from the Fish Gate, A wailing from the Second Quarter, And a loud crashing from the hills. Wail, you inhabitants of Maktesh! All the merchant people are cut down; All those who handle money are cut off.

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[LostInSauce]

Well, if we assume the approximate birth year of Christ to be sometime between 6 and 4BC, and he began his ministry at about 30 (we'll say between 28 and 32 years old) then that would mean that he began his ministry around 22AD-28AD. Christ's ministry lasted around three years, with him dying between 30 and 33AD. Therefore, it stands to reason that we have, at best, until 2033 (8 years) to receive this grace. But wait...why would he do that? Hell, if anyone born after 2033 is doomed, then what's the point of even being born? Somehow, this whole idea does not strike me as very reasonable. While obviously we can never really understand the nature of a perfect being like the Abrahamic God, we can speculate that he would be reasonable, logical, and fair, and therefore his edicts, rulings, laws, judgements, etc. would reflect that disposition. The notion that anyone born after 2033 is, well, fucked, is not reasonable, logical, or very fair. Therefore, I am disinclined to believe that God would do such a thing, and I am disinclined to believe such an interpretation of scripture.

 

[Odrade]

The Dispensation of Grace from Christ to this present time
Time frame about 2,000 years

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-We begin in Ephesians 3:1-5 For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles-- if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, how that by revelation.
He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as the Spirit has now revealed it to His holy apostles and prophets:

Eph 1:9-12 Having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times. He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth--in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, which we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.

Proverbs 29:26 Many seek the ruler’s favor, but justice comes from the LORD.

Daniel 2:20-22 Daniel answered and said: "Blessed be the name of God forever and ever, For wisdom and might are His.
And He changes the times and the seasons; He removes kings and raises kings; He gives wisdom to the wise And knowledge to those who have understanding.
He reveals deep and secret things; He knows what is in the darkness, And light dwells with Him.



Psalm 75:7 But God is the Judge: He puts down one, And exalts another.

Psalm 58:11 So that men will say, "Surely there is a reward for the righteous; Surely He is God who judges in the earth."

Habakkuk 3:2 O LORD, I have heard your speech and was afraid; O LORD, revive Your work in the midst of the years!
During the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy.

Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near, Even the day of the LORD is near; It will be a day of clouds, the time of the Gentiles.

Joel 2:1-2 Blow the trumpet in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the LORD is coming, For it is at hand:
A day of darkness and gloominess, A day of clouds and thick darkness, Like the morning clouds spread over the mountains. A people come, great and strong, The like of whom has never been; Nor will there ever be any such after them, Even for many successive generations.


Zephaniah 1:7-11 Be silent in the presence of the Lord GOD; For the day of the LORD is at hand, For the LORD has prepared a sacrifice; He has invited His guests. "And it shall be, In the day of the LORD'S sacrifice, That I will punish the princes and the king's children, And all such as are clothed with foreign apparel.
On the same day, I will punish All those who leap over the threshold, Who fill their masters' houses with violence and deceit.
"And there shall be on that day," says the LORD, "The sound of a mournful cry from the Fish Gate, A wailing from the Second Quarter, And a loud crashing from the hills. Wail, you inhabitants of Maktesh! All the merchant people are cut down; All those who handle money are cut off.

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There are people who seem to be modern day prophets, whom I read, listen to and take seriously, such as Julie Green, Jonathan Cahn and Robin Bullock. It seems apparent that they hear or are in tune with some aspect of "God" or higher consciousness. This being the end of the Kali Yuga, around three years from now, this kind of activity is normal and expected. However, despite the important service that prophets perform, they don't necessarily know everything. They simply give out the data they are given. As Religion and Spirituality has been greatly infiltrated and distorted deliberately by the "Deep State" and aided by ignorance and unawareness, programmed into us, there are still many unresolved mysteries, such as the true story of Jesus and Mary Madeleine, Hell as a place of incarceration, not eternal damnation, the truth about reincarnation and the so called "Lake of Fire" being the Great Central Sun, in the middle of the Milky Way and what the so called "Second Death", actually does entail.