Health Care - this "loss" is really a WIN!!!!

Harte

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But why should they have to buy their own healthcare? Healthcare is a right, not a privilege or a commodity to be bought and sold.
Please.
People make a living doing health care. You expect them not to because it's your "right?"
Who makes a living based on your right to free assembly? The clean-up crew for after?

You have the right to remain silent. It's free. But who lost their profession by your silence, and how much did they have to pay to become one of those in the first place?

Harte

There's a difference between making a living and becoming a multi-millionaire from peoples' illness. A modest $80,000 salary would be acceptable. Owning 5 mansions while I can't even afford surgery is morally wrong IMHO.
To be sure, pay is still high, with doctors accounting for the preponderance of six-figure positions in the country, according to government data. But it also takes between 11 and 14 years of higher education to become a physician. That means the typical doctor doesn't earn a full-time salary until 10 years after the typical college graduate starts making money.

That lost decade of work costs a cool half-million dollars, if you assume this individual could have earned just $50,000 annually, and the typical medical school candidate is smart and successful enough to earn considerably more. Add in the time and cost it takes to pay off medical school debt and a dissatisfied physician may well consider pursuing medicine a $1 million mistake. (This assumes the average $166,750 medical school debt takes 30 years to repay at 7.5 percent interest -- a total cost of $419,738.)
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Payments of around 1500 bucks a month for 20 years just to pay off student loan debt.

Lots of forklift drivers make the wages you cited. Why should anyone become a doctor, giving up 10 earning years more than other grads that elect to become, say, accountants?

Harte
 

PaulaJedi

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Zenith
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Please.
People make a living doing health care. You expect them not to because it's your "right?"
Who makes a living based on your right to free assembly? The clean-up crew for after?

You have the right to remain silent. It's free. But who lost their profession by your silence, and how much did they have to pay to become one of those in the first place?

Harte

There's a difference between making a living and becoming a multi-millionaire from peoples' illness. A modest $80,000 salary would be acceptable. Owning 5 mansions while I can't even afford surgery is morally wrong IMHO.
To be sure, pay is still high, with doctors accounting for the preponderance of six-figure positions in the country, according to government data. But it also takes between 11 and 14 years of higher education to become a physician. That means the typical doctor doesn't earn a full-time salary until 10 years after the typical college graduate starts making money.

That lost decade of work costs a cool half-million dollars, if you assume this individual could have earned just $50,000 annually, and the typical medical school candidate is smart and successful enough to earn considerably more. Add in the time and cost it takes to pay off medical school debt and a dissatisfied physician may well consider pursuing medicine a $1 million mistake. (This assumes the average $166,750 medical school debt takes 30 years to repay at 7.5 percent interest -- a total cost of $419,738.)
link
Payments of around 1500 bucks a month for 20 years just to pay off student loan debt.

Lots of forklift drivers make the wages you cited. Why should anyone become a doctor, giving up 10 earning years more than other grads that elect to become, say, accountants?

Harte

Doctors I understand. It's the multi-millionaire insurance CEO's that bother me. People can die because they want to own 5 Ferarris.
 

PaulaJedi

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Zenith
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The new bill passed the house and is with the senate, now. It needs to pass the senate before the president can sign off on it. Do not expect and instant fix. Phase 2 is coming - free market. That may be in about 6 months to a year. Then, we have to wait for the market to change naturally.
 

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