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Is Yahweh breaking an objective moral tenet?
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<blockquote data-quote="start at edge" data-source="post: 195362" data-attributes="member: 11971"><p>Any similar dilemma always has an origin, so this particular dilemma I explain (at least to myself) originating from something like this:</p><p>Everything would be otherwise, if the scriptures you mentioned would state something completely different (even opposite). I am sure there are cases when, in scriptures (writings) of different religions, some particular issue is regarded from completely different (even opposite) perspective. For example, the (their) religion itself is told to be the right one, the true one, especially by religious fanatics. The only way to bring logic to this, is that an absolute truth can not ever come from religion. There is a lot of scientific stuff for which science itself could not establish an absolute truth and in these circumstances someone comes and tells me that he got the right answer and that answer is religious in nature – I don’t buy that. Religions (all of them) were invented, sometimes adjusted every now and then. Some people say that in religion or politics, they believe the least – I say that I don’t believe at all.</p><p>After all, it is a matter of perspective. For example something good for some, means something bad for others, so even the notions of good and bad are somehow relative.</p><p>According to the scriptures you mentioned, the many will end in hell while the few will end in heaven … is that good? is that bad? … ask a good person, then ask an evil person – the answers will definitely be completely different (even opposite).</p><p>Healthy moral norms (also history) tell us that parents always protect their children. These norms got to be of “healthy moral” because this happened in the immense majority of cases. So, I think that what made them morally healthy was a big diversity and variety – not religion. There may have been a man who was crucified two thousand years ago, I don’t doubt that … what I doubt is that he was sent by his father. That is only written in the scriptures which doesn't mean that we "know" that - it was a metaphor spoken by himself and that man became an example of good for Christians, as many other religions do not even have this character in their writings and teachings. There are similarities, of course, as all religions provide the same teaching at some point – do not do any harm to others. There are a lot of discrepancies and the first that comes to my mind is about Adam and Eve. They were both punished and thrown out of Eden, even though Adam had absolutely no idea what is being set up for him, he only trusted his female partner and took a bite from the apple she gave him. This particular part of the story has always made me ask a question – why didn’t Eve take a bite first?</p><p>A beautiful story is also about Romeo and Juliet – it is interesting how only some of the stories eventually ended up as religions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="start at edge, post: 195362, member: 11971"] Any similar dilemma always has an origin, so this particular dilemma I explain (at least to myself) originating from something like this: Everything would be otherwise, if the scriptures you mentioned would state something completely different (even opposite). I am sure there are cases when, in scriptures (writings) of different religions, some particular issue is regarded from completely different (even opposite) perspective. For example, the (their) religion itself is told to be the right one, the true one, especially by religious fanatics. The only way to bring logic to this, is that an absolute truth can not ever come from religion. There is a lot of scientific stuff for which science itself could not establish an absolute truth and in these circumstances someone comes and tells me that he got the right answer and that answer is religious in nature – I don’t buy that. Religions (all of them) were invented, sometimes adjusted every now and then. Some people say that in religion or politics, they believe the least – I say that I don’t believe at all. After all, it is a matter of perspective. For example something good for some, means something bad for others, so even the notions of good and bad are somehow relative. According to the scriptures you mentioned, the many will end in hell while the few will end in heaven … is that good? is that bad? … ask a good person, then ask an evil person – the answers will definitely be completely different (even opposite). Healthy moral norms (also history) tell us that parents always protect their children. These norms got to be of “healthy moral” because this happened in the immense majority of cases. So, I think that what made them morally healthy was a big diversity and variety – not religion. There may have been a man who was crucified two thousand years ago, I don’t doubt that … what I doubt is that he was sent by his father. That is only written in the scriptures which doesn't mean that we "know" that - it was a metaphor spoken by himself and that man became an example of good for Christians, as many other religions do not even have this character in their writings and teachings. There are similarities, of course, as all religions provide the same teaching at some point – do not do any harm to others. There are a lot of discrepancies and the first that comes to my mind is about Adam and Eve. They were both punished and thrown out of Eden, even though Adam had absolutely no idea what is being set up for him, he only trusted his female partner and took a bite from the apple she gave him. This particular part of the story has always made me ask a question – why didn’t Eve take a bite first? A beautiful story is also about Romeo and Juliet – it is interesting how only some of the stories eventually ended up as religions. [/QUOTE]
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