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<blockquote data-quote="CaryP" data-source="post: 9515" data-attributes="member: 34"><p><strong>Islam</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm anti-zionist, which is not to be confused with anti-semitic or anti-Jewish. The Zionists are part of the neocon NWO movement. Hell, they invented the whole neocon movement. Being anti-zionist has nothing to do with religion or race, it's political, and moral IMO. The Zionists were in league with Hitler. Some of the first money used to start the beginnings of a Jewish state were from Hitler's govt. back in the 1930's. The Zionists, now calling themselves neocons, have hijacked the current administration and most of our federal politicians. Criticize the Israelis govt. and see how far that gets you in Washington D.C. The Israeli govt., run by Zionists IMO, have an undue influence in our federal govt. Look at the unfolding Pentagon-Israeli spy investigation. The FBI and Justice Dept. were going to make arrests the day the story broke, but Asscroft put a stop to it. Mossad agents and Israelis spies caught here are routinely released and allowed to return to Israel. Why? What special pass do they deserve? The Zionists got in bed with the ultra conservative right wing Christians because they're zealous (fanatical in my opinion) enough to believe that God wants them take over the planet for "His greater good". The same crap used to steal the country from the American Indians. Some of the most inhumane and cruel atrocities against humanity have been done in the name of God. I'm sure God wouldn't claim most of what has been done in His name. But let's move on to Islam. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The jihadists don't want you dead, personally because you're an American and a Christian. They want 1) our presence out of what they consider their holy land, and 2) they want us to stop supplying Israel with military equipment and backing. I'm in favor of both. Bring our troops home, stop meddling in places that are none of our business, and leave Israel to sink or swim on its own. The jihadists don't hate us because of our freedom and our way of life. That is part of the propaganda shoveled out by the Bushco neocons to get the American public behind an ongoing war of global conquest. The US has not been "over there" just to help out. The US has had all kinds of "black bag" operations going on around the globe for decades (ever since we came out as the predominant power following WW II). Our govt. has been responsible for assassinations, coup d'etats, terrorism and its financial support, arming dictators with weapons of mass destruction, participating in the illegal drug trade, weapon sales and supply to dictators, torture, and other brands of "bad acts" we constantly accuse others of doing. And that's just the stuff that's gotten out into the public domain. Of course, not many Americans want to acknowledge that we're just as guilty of wrong doing as those we accuse. My point is "we ain't the angels" that most people would like to believe we are. That's more why the jihadists "want us dead." Read up on Osama bin Laden's reasons for war against the U.S. and the west. That's pretty much what he laid out (top two points of this paragraph) in writings from the 1990's. BTW, Osama bin Laden is a bought and paid for "asset" of the CIA, as was Saddam Hussein, and Noriega, along with I'm sure would be an extensive list.</p><p> </p><p>Our "country saving" days ended with WW II. Since then our govt. has been in the "country disruption for our own ends" business. It's hard to remember the favors you did for my parents, when all you've been doing for the past 60 years is jacking with me and mine. I agree that the U.N. and NATO should be abandoned by the U.S. </p><p> </p><p>I don't know much about muslims or the Islamic faith. Just about any religion, taken to extremes and misinterpretations, you can come up with some lunacy and "justification" to commit the most heinous of atrocities. That's not limited to Islam. Been done by Christians for damned sure. </p><p> </p><p>Cary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CaryP, post: 9515, member: 34"] [b]Islam[/b] I'm anti-zionist, which is not to be confused with anti-semitic or anti-Jewish. The Zionists are part of the neocon NWO movement. Hell, they invented the whole neocon movement. Being anti-zionist has nothing to do with religion or race, it's political, and moral IMO. The Zionists were in league with Hitler. Some of the first money used to start the beginnings of a Jewish state were from Hitler's govt. back in the 1930's. The Zionists, now calling themselves neocons, have hijacked the current administration and most of our federal politicians. Criticize the Israelis govt. and see how far that gets you in Washington D.C. The Israeli govt., run by Zionists IMO, have an undue influence in our federal govt. Look at the unfolding Pentagon-Israeli spy investigation. The FBI and Justice Dept. were going to make arrests the day the story broke, but Asscroft put a stop to it. Mossad agents and Israelis spies caught here are routinely released and allowed to return to Israel. Why? What special pass do they deserve? The Zionists got in bed with the ultra conservative right wing Christians because they're zealous (fanatical in my opinion) enough to believe that God wants them take over the planet for "His greater good". The same crap used to steal the country from the American Indians. Some of the most inhumane and cruel atrocities against humanity have been done in the name of God. I'm sure God wouldn't claim most of what has been done in His name. But let's move on to Islam. The jihadists don't want you dead, personally because you're an American and a Christian. They want 1) our presence out of what they consider their holy land, and 2) they want us to stop supplying Israel with military equipment and backing. I'm in favor of both. Bring our troops home, stop meddling in places that are none of our business, and leave Israel to sink or swim on its own. The jihadists don't hate us because of our freedom and our way of life. That is part of the propaganda shoveled out by the Bushco neocons to get the American public behind an ongoing war of global conquest. The US has not been "over there" just to help out. The US has had all kinds of "black bag" operations going on around the globe for decades (ever since we came out as the predominant power following WW II). Our govt. has been responsible for assassinations, coup d'etats, terrorism and its financial support, arming dictators with weapons of mass destruction, participating in the illegal drug trade, weapon sales and supply to dictators, torture, and other brands of "bad acts" we constantly accuse others of doing. And that's just the stuff that's gotten out into the public domain. Of course, not many Americans want to acknowledge that we're just as guilty of wrong doing as those we accuse. My point is "we ain't the angels" that most people would like to believe we are. That's more why the jihadists "want us dead." Read up on Osama bin Laden's reasons for war against the U.S. and the west. That's pretty much what he laid out (top two points of this paragraph) in writings from the 1990's. BTW, Osama bin Laden is a bought and paid for "asset" of the CIA, as was Saddam Hussein, and Noriega, along with I'm sure would be an extensive list. Our "country saving" days ended with WW II. Since then our govt. has been in the "country disruption for our own ends" business. It's hard to remember the favors you did for my parents, when all you've been doing for the past 60 years is jacking with me and mine. I agree that the U.N. and NATO should be abandoned by the U.S. I don't know much about muslims or the Islamic faith. Just about any religion, taken to extremes and misinterpretations, you can come up with some lunacy and "justification" to commit the most heinous of atrocities. That's not limited to Islam. Been done by Christians for damned sure. Cary [/QUOTE]
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