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John Titor: Real Time Traveler or a Hoaxer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Apogee" data-source="post: 29067" data-attributes="member: 600"><p><strong>Re: John Titor Is A Hoax Exclusive Report</strong></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Hi Folks,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Have to agree with the previous post. As a Scotsman living in London, I?ve followed the European Constitution debate for a long time and find the results of the different referendums no great surprise.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">There?s a great deal of reactionary thought in Europe when it comes to politically integrating more with other nations - Euro-sceptics certainly seem to be in the majority in the UK. But is that really any big surprise when dealing with a continent with so many differing languages and cultures? I certainly don?t believe its the beginning of any particular destabilisation of the existing EU and to believe that it is, I think, is simply misinformed.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">I?m new to this forum but have followed the John Titor story for some time and although I admit I?ve not read all the ins and outs of his claims - or indeed all of the counter-claims - let me post my colours up straight away and say that my own internal logic has decided very heavily in favour of the hoax theory.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Its still a very fascinating story though, especially in what it has revealed about the complex business of human belief.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">I was particularly interested to read earlier on this thread of speculation that the teenage son of a Disney employee may have contributed to concocting part of the story. It reminded me of something that might be of relevance to the whole mystery.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Whilst on holiday recently, I came across a teen-fiction paperback by author Graham Marks titled ?Skitzo?. Its a Scholastic book first published under their ?Point SF? banner in 1997 - three years before Titor ?materialised? as it were. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">What attracted me to it was the blurb on the back explaining it was a time-travel tale, something I?ve always had a long-standing interest in. I can see from my explorations on this board that I?m far from alone in this. Anyway, ?Skitzo? is the story of a soldier who is sent on a mission into his past in order to fix a problem in the world of his present. So far, so un-original...</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">....however, the novel holds a few tantalizing similarities to the John Titor story.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">For one thing, one of the main characters - the man who recruits the military time traveller - or ?pilot? as he?s referred to - is called Spenzer Timor.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Timor selects the time traveller for his military skills: The hero is described as having a ?First Class degree in Tech Engineering, with honours; trained in unarmed combat , anti-terrorist tactics and guerilla warfare.?</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">No great scientific knowledge is required of him. A handy - if somewhat lazy - literary device as it means the author can escape any complicated in-depth and specific explanation of his time travelling process. If any twentieth century native asks too many awkward question he simply has the character explain that he doesn?t really understand the details himself.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Admittedly, the actual plot line of the book bears little similarity to the Titor story, but I still found the coincidences intriguing. Coincidence, in my mind anyway, plays an important role in Titor?s claims as it is important for people who wish to believe him genuine to interpret historical events as corroboration.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">If nothing else, it shows that many ideas are simply recycled. I believe that John Cameron was successfully sued by author Harlan Ellison for using his 1960?s ?Twilight Zone? episode entitled ? Soldier? as the basis for ?The Terminator.? It seems that if you want time-travelling military men, there are plenty about.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">I wish you luck in your investigations. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Gary</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Apogee, post: 29067, member: 600"] [b]Re: John Titor Is A Hoax Exclusive Report[/b] [SIZE=2]Hi Folks, Have to agree with the previous post. As a Scotsman living in London, I?ve followed the European Constitution debate for a long time and find the results of the different referendums no great surprise. There?s a great deal of reactionary thought in Europe when it comes to politically integrating more with other nations - Euro-sceptics certainly seem to be in the majority in the UK. But is that really any big surprise when dealing with a continent with so many differing languages and cultures? I certainly don?t believe its the beginning of any particular destabilisation of the existing EU and to believe that it is, I think, is simply misinformed. I?m new to this forum but have followed the John Titor story for some time and although I admit I?ve not read all the ins and outs of his claims - or indeed all of the counter-claims - let me post my colours up straight away and say that my own internal logic has decided very heavily in favour of the hoax theory. Its still a very fascinating story though, especially in what it has revealed about the complex business of human belief. I was particularly interested to read earlier on this thread of speculation that the teenage son of a Disney employee may have contributed to concocting part of the story. It reminded me of something that might be of relevance to the whole mystery. Whilst on holiday recently, I came across a teen-fiction paperback by author Graham Marks titled ?Skitzo?. Its a Scholastic book first published under their ?Point SF? banner in 1997 - three years before Titor ?materialised? as it were. What attracted me to it was the blurb on the back explaining it was a time-travel tale, something I?ve always had a long-standing interest in. I can see from my explorations on this board that I?m far from alone in this. Anyway, ?Skitzo? is the story of a soldier who is sent on a mission into his past in order to fix a problem in the world of his present. So far, so un-original... ....however, the novel holds a few tantalizing similarities to the John Titor story. For one thing, one of the main characters - the man who recruits the military time traveller - or ?pilot? as he?s referred to - is called Spenzer Timor. Timor selects the time traveller for his military skills: The hero is described as having a ?First Class degree in Tech Engineering, with honours; trained in unarmed combat , anti-terrorist tactics and guerilla warfare.? No great scientific knowledge is required of him. A handy - if somewhat lazy - literary device as it means the author can escape any complicated in-depth and specific explanation of his time travelling process. If any twentieth century native asks too many awkward question he simply has the character explain that he doesn?t really understand the details himself. Admittedly, the actual plot line of the book bears little similarity to the Titor story, but I still found the coincidences intriguing. Coincidence, in my mind anyway, plays an important role in Titor?s claims as it is important for people who wish to believe him genuine to interpret historical events as corroboration. If nothing else, it shows that many ideas are simply recycled. I believe that John Cameron was successfully sued by author Harlan Ellison for using his 1960?s ?Twilight Zone? episode entitled ? Soldier? as the basis for ?The Terminator.? It seems that if you want time-travelling military men, there are plenty about. I wish you luck in your investigations. Gary [/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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