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John Titor's Legacy
John Titor: Real Time Traveler or a Hoaxer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Apogee" data-source="post: 29291" data-attributes="member: 600"><p><strong>Re: John Titor Debate!</strong></p><p></p><p>...and you're convientently ignoring the part where they blow away a little baby in order to protect themselves, I'm afraid you're trying to downplay the officers responsibility</p></blockquote><p></p><p> </p><p>I'm not trying to downplay the officer's responsibility and I'm certainly not ignoring that a young child was killed. I'm merely pointing out that under the circumstances described in the article... </p><p> </p><p>"About 6:20 p.m., Lemos emerged from the building with the toddler. He was holding a weapon and again firing erratically, shooting an LAPD tactical officer in the shoulder.</p><p> </p><p>As other officers moved in to rescue their wounded colleague, police exchanged gunfire with Lemos. The girl also was hit."</p><p> </p><p>...all this after two hours of negotiations with a gunman described as rampaging, intoxicated on drugs and 'crazed.' </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>I find it difficult to believe that a guy who'd use a baby as a shield in a gunfight is anything other than as described - "crazed." I don't believe either that the officers who fired had much choice in the matter, they weren't shoting to protect themselves but a colleague the guy had already hit and may have been about to kill:</p><p> </p><p>"We did our best. It was tremendous stress?. The suspect dictated the outcome." "Our deepest sympathies go to the family," </p><p> </p><p>All I'm saying is that it doesn't stand up as a great facsimile of a Waco type event to me. Sounds to me like, once their colleague had been shot and wounded, those officers were put into an impossible situation. I'm certain they had no intention of harming the child, but on this telling, they certainly weren't the ones who had provoked the situation.</p><p> </p><p>Its merely my opinion that, as I said, the attempt to shoehorn real-life events like this into the Titor manifesto, is...reaching. </p><p> </p><p>As for my "agenda". I don't have one except to critique the John Titor Hoxer's claims. This question sounds a little paranoid to my ears.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="Apogee, post: 29291, member: 600"] [b]Re: John Titor Debate![/b] ...and you're convientently ignoring the part where they blow away a little baby in order to protect themselves, I'm afraid you're trying to downplay the officers responsibility [/QUOTE] I'm not trying to downplay the officer's responsibility and I'm certainly not ignoring that a young child was killed. I'm merely pointing out that under the circumstances described in the article... "About 6:20 p.m., Lemos emerged from the building with the toddler. He was holding a weapon and again firing erratically, shooting an LAPD tactical officer in the shoulder. As other officers moved in to rescue their wounded colleague, police exchanged gunfire with Lemos. The girl also was hit." ...all this after two hours of negotiations with a gunman described as rampaging, intoxicated on drugs and 'crazed.' I find it difficult to believe that a guy who'd use a baby as a shield in a gunfight is anything other than as described - "crazed." I don't believe either that the officers who fired had much choice in the matter, they weren't shoting to protect themselves but a colleague the guy had already hit and may have been about to kill: "We did our best. It was tremendous stress?. The suspect dictated the outcome." "Our deepest sympathies go to the family," All I'm saying is that it doesn't stand up as a great facsimile of a Waco type event to me. Sounds to me like, once their colleague had been shot and wounded, those officers were put into an impossible situation. I'm certain they had no intention of harming the child, but on this telling, they certainly weren't the ones who had provoked the situation. Its merely my opinion that, as I said, the attempt to shoehorn real-life events like this into the Titor manifesto, is...reaching. As for my "agenda". I don't have one except to critique the John Titor Hoxer's claims. This question sounds a little paranoid to my ears. [/QUOTE]
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