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John Titor Time Machine Patented! by Marlin B. Pohlman
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<blockquote data-quote="MartinezDeMedio" data-source="post: 146043" data-attributes="member: 8845"><p>I don't remember saying it was approved, did I? If I did, I don't think it really matters if it was approved or not. My point was that i read it and it makes sense to me and to a few colleagues of mine. It is an extremely wordy document, I would also point you to the fact that many scientific theories have been submitted for patent and rejected. Your own namesake, einstein was a patent authority and rejected many claims and proposal on his own merit, as his theories were rejected and later approved after resubmission. Also hawking has changed his stance on quite a few things, including hawking radiation. And I am very much aware that black holes haven't been officially created at CERN, yet. According to johns original documents the micro singularities are housed on the machine and used to power the machine, its a source of energy not a wormhole like some believe. Therefore the actual singlularities dont even have to exist for a long time, just long enough to power the machine. A blackhole can generate a lot of power, imagine two of them? Even if they are micro. I don't think it matters if black holes exist naturally I think they can still be created. Maybe CERN hasn't created them yet, because they aren't explicitly trying to, contrary to popular belief. What I've gathered from johns posts on CERN, it seems like the breakthroughs might happen on accident, or not so much on accident but more on a level where they don't realize its possible but then something happens that shows them it is. I have great respect for Hawking but his word isn't God. He changes his mind on many things and back again. We've gone through the black hole thing many times with him. Also I just googled your claim in another tab. Hawkings most recent stance on black holes seems to be that he believes they can exist theoretically but that he doesent believe they exist in nature. That's different from saying that he doesent believe them at all. Because its not a matter of belief. This isn't religion. We have mathematics that show us black holes can exist under certain conditions. We don't have to find one actually I hope we don't. It might be safer to create a micro that we can control. Also, I don't think the story of John Titor is a matter of belief either. I said I was once a skeptic, yeah I was an unbeliever. But I still enjoyed the science behind it, and even though there are holes in the science, that doesent mean to throw out the question of, can it happen? And the more I ask myself that question the more I see, maybe. Not yes or no but maybe. I do consider myself a believer of JTs story but if Larry haber came out tomorrow and showed us the box I wouldn't be surprised either. I look at the mathematics and the logic and implications in the patent and it shows me that this could work. With a tweak here or there, input from a mind or two or a dozen it could work. Just because the first guy at the office wrote it off, doesent mean it can't work. And I think if it was rejected it was probably rejected because haber has the copy rights on johns stuff. All of it. Because you can patent something that doesent work, I have a couple of erroneous patents myself that I've since threw in the garbage, but they were accepted. If my stupid patents on computer languages that I've never finished can get approved by the patent office, then that tells me they aren't the greatest authority in the world. Don't ya think? Sorry Einstein, with much due respect you haven't given me much basis to change my mind. You've only given me things that I've already thought of and gotten passed, but I say that respectfully with the intent to agree to disagree.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MartinezDeMedio, post: 146043, member: 8845"] I don't remember saying it was approved, did I? If I did, I don't think it really matters if it was approved or not. My point was that i read it and it makes sense to me and to a few colleagues of mine. It is an extremely wordy document, I would also point you to the fact that many scientific theories have been submitted for patent and rejected. Your own namesake, einstein was a patent authority and rejected many claims and proposal on his own merit, as his theories were rejected and later approved after resubmission. Also hawking has changed his stance on quite a few things, including hawking radiation. And I am very much aware that black holes haven't been officially created at CERN, yet. According to johns original documents the micro singularities are housed on the machine and used to power the machine, its a source of energy not a wormhole like some believe. Therefore the actual singlularities dont even have to exist for a long time, just long enough to power the machine. A blackhole can generate a lot of power, imagine two of them? Even if they are micro. I don't think it matters if black holes exist naturally I think they can still be created. Maybe CERN hasn't created them yet, because they aren't explicitly trying to, contrary to popular belief. What I've gathered from johns posts on CERN, it seems like the breakthroughs might happen on accident, or not so much on accident but more on a level where they don't realize its possible but then something happens that shows them it is. I have great respect for Hawking but his word isn't God. He changes his mind on many things and back again. We've gone through the black hole thing many times with him. Also I just googled your claim in another tab. Hawkings most recent stance on black holes seems to be that he believes they can exist theoretically but that he doesent believe they exist in nature. That's different from saying that he doesent believe them at all. Because its not a matter of belief. This isn't religion. We have mathematics that show us black holes can exist under certain conditions. We don't have to find one actually I hope we don't. It might be safer to create a micro that we can control. Also, I don't think the story of John Titor is a matter of belief either. I said I was once a skeptic, yeah I was an unbeliever. But I still enjoyed the science behind it, and even though there are holes in the science, that doesent mean to throw out the question of, can it happen? And the more I ask myself that question the more I see, maybe. Not yes or no but maybe. I do consider myself a believer of JTs story but if Larry haber came out tomorrow and showed us the box I wouldn't be surprised either. I look at the mathematics and the logic and implications in the patent and it shows me that this could work. With a tweak here or there, input from a mind or two or a dozen it could work. Just because the first guy at the office wrote it off, doesent mean it can't work. And I think if it was rejected it was probably rejected because haber has the copy rights on johns stuff. All of it. Because you can patent something that doesent work, I have a couple of erroneous patents myself that I've since threw in the garbage, but they were accepted. If my stupid patents on computer languages that I've never finished can get approved by the patent office, then that tells me they aren't the greatest authority in the world. Don't ya think? Sorry Einstein, with much due respect you haven't given me much basis to change my mind. You've only given me things that I've already thought of and gotten passed, but I say that respectfully with the intent to agree to disagree. [/QUOTE]
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