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JREF - Million Dollar Challenge
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<blockquote data-quote="Keroscene" data-source="post: 38991" data-attributes="member: 508"><p><strong>Re: JREF - Million Dollar Challenge</strong></p><p></p><p>cmac,</p><p></p><p>I never said I did or didn't believe in it. I just said I didn't see anything wrong with the tests in the videos. They weren't rigged or unbeatable by any means. On the flip side, I've also seen videos where it does work, but that's not what's happening in these videos... </p><p></p><p>You say that it needs serious testing and investigation done to see what the data proves, but you're already convinced that it does work. "If it works, it works." That's not what I consider having an open mind, and with all due respect, is hypocritical. There's has already been tons of testing and investigations done on dowsing and it's all proved inconclusive and always will. No amount of further testing will ever definitely prove it one way or the other. You and Harte are both very selective about the data you choose to support your beliefs. You both say you want to be objective and see all the data but I'm not seeing that in either of your guy's posts. There's been tons of tests on dowsing, do we really need more? Just because you don't acknowledge them doesn't mean they don't exist. Are you just looking for the data that proves it's real? Really, it's not much different than Harte always taking the "non-believer" stance. I'm not trying to offend you guys but I feel like I'm stuck in the middle. "Stuck in the middle with you. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, Stuck in the middle with you!" ( I don't really think you guys are clowns or jokers in any derogatory way, I just like the song and it seemed to fit the occasion)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Keroscene, post: 38991, member: 508"] [b]Re: JREF - Million Dollar Challenge[/b] cmac, I never said I did or didn't believe in it. I just said I didn't see anything wrong with the tests in the videos. They weren't rigged or unbeatable by any means. On the flip side, I've also seen videos where it does work, but that's not what's happening in these videos... You say that it needs serious testing and investigation done to see what the data proves, but you're already convinced that it does work. "If it works, it works." That's not what I consider having an open mind, and with all due respect, is hypocritical. There's has already been tons of testing and investigations done on dowsing and it's all proved inconclusive and always will. No amount of further testing will ever definitely prove it one way or the other. You and Harte are both very selective about the data you choose to support your beliefs. You both say you want to be objective and see all the data but I'm not seeing that in either of your guy's posts. There's been tons of tests on dowsing, do we really need more? Just because you don't acknowledge them doesn't mean they don't exist. Are you just looking for the data that proves it's real? Really, it's not much different than Harte always taking the "non-believer" stance. I'm not trying to offend you guys but I feel like I'm stuck in the middle. "Stuck in the middle with you. Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right, Stuck in the middle with you!" ( I don't really think you guys are clowns or jokers in any derogatory way, I just like the song and it seemed to fit the occasion) [/QUOTE]
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