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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 28485" data-attributes="member: 443"><p><strong>Re: Light</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"thenumbersix\")</div></p><p>The problem here is that light is easily slowed, even without the Einstein-Bose condensate. Light slows considerably when passing through water, even more when it passes through glass.</p><p> </p><p>A photon at rest has no mass. Therefore light is not something that's almost just about to turn into matter. Matter and energy are the same thing anyway. There's no point where energy turns into matter or vice versa. If you look close enough, it's all energy. </p><p> </p><p>It would be a great relief to physicists if the wave-particle duality could be soved this easily.</p><p> </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"thenumbersix\")</div></p><p>The idea of light getting trapped in a black hole yet being massless has always seemed to be an apparent contradiction to me also. The only explanation I have seen for this is the idea of relativistic mass, where the mass involved is attributed to the energy of the photon. Yet when I look for the most recent thinking on this, the only discussions that I find about relativistic mass all say that there is not really such a thing. Confusing.</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"thenumbersix\")</div></p><p>Here you should say "the speed that all <em>electromagnetic</em> energies protrude..." All energies do not propagate at lightspeed.</p><p></p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 28485, member: 443"] [b]Re: Light[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"thenumbersix\")</div> The problem here is that light is easily slowed, even without the Einstein-Bose condensate. Light slows considerably when passing through water, even more when it passes through glass. A photon at rest has no mass. Therefore light is not something that's almost just about to turn into matter. Matter and energy are the same thing anyway. There's no point where energy turns into matter or vice versa. If you look close enough, it's all energy. It would be a great relief to physicists if the wave-particle duality could be soved this easily. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"thenumbersix\")</div> The idea of light getting trapped in a black hole yet being massless has always seemed to be an apparent contradiction to me also. The only explanation I have seen for this is the idea of relativistic mass, where the mass involved is attributed to the energy of the photon. Yet when I look for the most recent thinking on this, the only discussions that I find about relativistic mass all say that there is not really such a thing. Confusing. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"thenumbersix\")</div> Here you should say "the speed that all [i]electromagnetic[/i] energies protrude..." All energies do not propagate at lightspeed. Harte [/QUOTE]
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