minuteman project and Waco type events thread

Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

has any one went to the" welcome all from 2026 thead? "this other tt guy or guys ,, one makes a statement "oh good i arrived just in time for all the fun" and the other one perry? says yes there is war in the near future but its more a globale thing that just happens to be more concentrated in the usa
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

The Civil War, its not what you think it will be, its not
started by anything you might think. No its not
Yellowstone erupting (I Love you yellies), although that
hasn't happened yet. Mt St Helens blew her cap again,
bigger than the last but nothing that really concerned
anybody. Lets just say, it was one of those "I know
where I was on that day, even though it was no big deal."
The Civil War, which is more of a Global Civil War, is
the same all over the globe. It is truly a David versus
Goliath scenario and this is one thing JT never said,
this is a worldwide phenomenon. It just happens to be
Focused on the United States. You will feel as though
you've just been through a movie in which the last 5
minutes changed the entire first 2 hours of the movie,
the Twist, as it were, which Cannot be guessed (we are
sure, you have Tried, every single time), and cannot be
revealed, is very "Unexpected".

Once the initial panic is over, the confusion sets in,
this is the time Big Brother steps in and you no longer
have that cushy 100% freedom you treasure so Dearly.
Well, get Used to it.
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

The Civil War, its not what you think it will be, its not
started by anything you might think. No its not
Yellowstone erupting (I Love you yellies), although that
hasn't happened yet. Mt St Helens blew her cap again,
bigger than the last but nothing that really concerned
anybody. Lets just say, it was one of those "I know
where I was on that day, even though it was no big deal."
The Civil War, which is more of a Global Civil War, is
the same all over the globe. It is truly a David versus
Goliath scenario and this is one thing JT never said,
this is a worldwide phenomenon. It just happens to be
Focused on the United States. You will feel as though
you've just been through a movie in which the last 5
minutes changed the entire first 2 hours of the movie,
the Twist, as it were, which Cannot be guessed (we are
sure, you have Tried, every single time), and cannot be
revealed, is very "Unexpected".

Once the initial panic is over, the confusion sets in,
this is the time Big Brother steps in and you no longer
have that cushy 100% freedom you treasure so Dearly.
Well, get Used to it.
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"artsouth\")</div>
my appologies.... it was never my intention to upsent anyone by posting that artical. i have freinds that serve in the police force as well as the military , i was a marine , my father was a fireman. the point i was attempting to make was the growing dissent among the american public ... so much seems to be happening and it seems to be leading us down the path to titors civil war, im not a typest or a great speller either.( yet to find this referenced on site spell checker) but i assure you that i am quite intelligent , i am wide awake and quite aware of whats going on around me unlike 70% of americans that haven't woken up to the fact that we are looseing our rights as we speak, and most think your a raveing loonatic if you try and make them aware of it ,some are slowly wakeing up... bushes approval rateing has dropped to the lowest in his two terms,and that seems funny... so close to the what ever it was , i m not comfortble with the word\" election\" but that says something .and the minute men/women mean no harm they just want to make a point and are trying to help, yet they are being labled vigillanties?? at waco they weren't out to harm anyone either.. they were just trying to practice their religion ,they thought that was a constitutionaly protected right , guess not... wrong religion ,they weren't dyed in the wool evangelicals, so see what happend... that seems to be the course this is takeing,but that being said ,i ment no harm or offense ,in the future i will try and think more about it before i post such a thing[/b]
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Artsouth, don't sweat the small stuff friend. Sometimes it's hard to see where someone is going in their letters. Not your fault. You keep right on posting. There are lots of books out there that start very patriotic and all of a sudden you stop and realize that the author is talking trash about overthrowing the country and anyone that does not believe a certain way should be put to death. I am sure he meant well in the begining.
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

this one..........]The Civil War, its not what you think it will be, its not
started by anything you might think. No its not
Yellowstone erupting (I Love you yellies), although that
hasn't happened yet. Mt St Helens blew her cap again,
bigger than the last but nothing that really concerned
anybody. Lets just say, it was one of those "I know
where I was on that day, even though it was no big deal."
The Civil War, which is more of a Global Civil War, is
the same all over the globe. It is truly a David versus
Goliath scenario and this is one thing JT never said,
this is a worldwide phenomenon. It just happens to be
Focused on the United States. You will feel as though
you've just been through a movie in which the last 5
minutes changed the entire first 2 hours of the movie,
the Twist, as it were, which Cannot be guessed (we are
sure, you have Tried, every single time), and cannot be
revealed, is very "Unexpected".

Once the initial panic is over, the confusion sets in,
this is the time Big Brother steps in and you no longer
have that cushy 100% freedom you treasure so Dearly.
Well, get Used to it.[/QUOTE]
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

thank you starlord... it means a lot. i was worried, i feel i can add a lot to this forum.. i study this very intensely ( bad spelling) . im not a doomsayer ;but being aware is a main stay, it troubles me to see no one give a damm, and i like it here and do not want any one to think im some nut with a finger on a hair trigger.we have a very delicate ballance in this forum . i respect your opinions as they run along side of my own. thanks......
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"artsouth\")</div>
i was worried, i feel i can add a lot to this forum..[/b]
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I've read much by you and appreciate what you say. Keep on keepin' on m8!

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Darkwolf\")</div>
You are correct in that the average American is a long way from picking up a rifle. However no modern revolution has happened all at once. The first resistors are always a small underground group (several in the case of the modern united states) Their actions cause government forces to crack down, causing more resentment and leading more people to activally revolt. This usually continues from the underground phase untill full time gurilla formations appear and then grow into real military units. Titor said that the war started in 2005. I think that he ment the underground phase, and not the active military phase.[/b]
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I could see that happening, and we'll just have to wait and see how radically things change, and how soon. I definitely agree small groups or fringe elements could heat things up, but at this point, I don't see this as a struggle between the people and their government. I see it as an escalating confrontation between left and right, and in particular, over religious ideals. Of course, that will ultimately involve the government via constitutional interpretation.

MHO we haven't yet seen any direct loss of constitutional rights by a citizen as a result of the Patriot Act. The MMP may indeed present the first real test, and we shall see, eh?

Anyway, points well taken DW, tks.


<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
BUT I could see the sheep being forced into it IF the government started cracking down on rights like JT said, didn't he say something about people's neighbors being arrested and detained for no reason?[/b]
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Amen Brudda! A number of incidents like this, and yeah, it's possible.

Z-
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

thanks zoomarz, you seem quite insiteful ,who really knows where this is going ??? but one thing is certian, its gonna be one helluva ride.... and yes i know your point all to well...:) as , i never had gotten so worked up ., as i did over this past election , and i don't like calling it that.... but i got so worked up for weeks it seemed , as i am of libertairan belief and i have a couple of republican evangeliacal family members that i will not speak to, nor they to me ,its hard but you know the last civilwar was described as brother against brother ,kinda thing.... so i know what your saying.... it must be something out there were you are in utah ,lots of interesting dialog ill bet....
 
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

US Has been preparing to turn America into a military dictatorship




http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/suppression.html

US Has been preparing to turn
America into a military dictatorship

(long read)

U.S. MILITARY CIVIL DISTURBANCE PLANNING: THE WAR AT HOME

By Frank Morales

Under the heading of "civil disturbance planning", the U.S. military is training troops and police to suppress democratic opposition in America. The master plan, Department of Defense Civil Disturbance Plan 55-2, is code-named, "Operation Garden Plot". Originated in 1968, the "operational plan" has been updated over the last three decades, most recently in 1991. The plan was activated during the Los Angeles "riots" of 1992, and more than likely during the recent anti-WTO "Battle in Seattle."

Current U.S. military preparations for suppressing domestic civil disturbance, including the training of National Guard troops and police, are part of a long history of American "internal security" measures dating back to the first American Revolution. Generally, these measures have sought to thwart the aims of social justice movements, embodying the concept that within the civilian body politic lurks an enemy that one day the military might have to fight, or at least be ordered to fight.

Equipped with flexible "military operations in urban terrain" and "operations other than war" doctrine, lethal and "less-than-lethal" high-tech weaponry, US "armed forces" and "elite" militarized police units are being trained to eradicate "disorder", "disturbance" and "civil disobedience" in America. Further, it may very well be that police/military "civil disturbance" planning is the animating force and the overarching logic behind the incredible nationwide growth of police paramilitary units, a growth which coincidentally mirrors rising levels of police violence directed at the American people, particularly "non-white" poor and working people.

Military spokespeople, "judge advocates" (lawyers) and their congressional supporters aggressively take the position that legal obstacles to military involvement in domestic law enforcement civil disturbance operations, such as the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act, have been nullified. Legislated "exceptions" and private commercialization of various aspects of U.S. military-law enforcement efforts have supposedly removed their activities from the legal reach of the "public domain". Possibly illegal, ostensible "training" scenarios like the recent "Operation Urban Warrior" no-notice "urban terrain" war games, which took place in dozens of American cities, are thinly disguised "civil disturbance suppression" exercises. Meanwhile, President Clinton recently appointed a "domestic military czar", a sort of national chief of police. You can bet that he is well versed in Garden Plot requirements involved in "homeland defense".


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Re: minuteman project... waco type event???

This is no time for cop-bashing or for sneering at one side or the other for being "leftists" or "vigilantes."

This is a time when the U.S. government is sending an army of 2,300 federal agents of Homeland Security to the small region being defended by the Minuteman organization, which is not racist, radical, or even politically motivated.

This is a time when the Mara Salvatrucha, or M13, the largest and deadliest criminal gang in the hemisphere, and an international criminal gang, has put out bounty on the Minutemen.

This is a time, as well, when protestors are headed down to the desert, some of them armed, to confront the Minutemen.

In the history of the American West, whenever such forces combine in the boonies to have a gunfight, it has never resulted in a peaceful conference and discussion of compromise, or a concern for the safety of the participants. You may not think that they are gathering to have a gunfight; maybe the guns will all go off on their own, pursuant to some mysterious law of physics.

It's not a good time to talk about having a civil war. Apparently it does very little good to talk at all, and the war is about to start in Arizona.
 

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