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minuteman project and Waco type events thread
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Harte
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Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Artsouth\")</div>
Absolutely, artsouth. There are a large number of Mexicans actually going through the proper legal channels to get to this country. It is unfair to them and other aliens to allow undocumented people to emigrate without being at least identified, not to mention the security risk. Read some of the earlier posts to get an idea of the costs of this kind of uncontrolled mass exodus into our country.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
Crosstika, what would you say to the legal Mexican-Americans that make exactly this point? I would submit that it is you that is scapegoating. Blame the right wing for everything - it won't cut it, Hilary.
Legal residents and citizens of this country are bearing an increasing burden on our collective backs, the cost of supporting the illegals. And don't tell me that no one will do the work the illegals do. That is a market driven by the illegals being here. When no one will work for that low wage, if the work is to be done, the wage will increase. Anyway, if nobody wants these jobs that illegals do, then why is there a waiting list of Mexicans wanting to get into this country legally? Remember, no one has advocated that we should end immigration to this country.
The Nazi's cynically blamed the Jews for the everyday average (Aryan) German's economic woes. How is this analogous to the right wing today? Were the Jews in Nazi Germany illegal immigrants? Is the right wing saying that hispanics are causing a recession? Was there a jew serving as head of the Nazi equivalent of the Justice Department in Germany? Are not the Mexicans flooding into this country, legally and illegally, because of the very economic opportunities we offer? Exactly what "economic problems" are the right wingers blaming on Hispanics? You might talk to one of the two or three right-wing consevative hispanic representatives from Florida about this.
Are you saying that the right wing is blaming hispanics for the right wing's economic problems? You owe right wingers an apology for that despicable slur you posted.
I suppose that you would blame the right wing for the economic woes of Mexico, judging by your post.
Lastly, how many countries on Earth do you suppose you could just walk into without permission and end up living out the rest of your days there without fear of reprisal or even fear of a wrist slap? Why is it that protecting the border is seen as a necessary duty of government when other countries do it but as some sort of racism if America does it?
Harte
StarLord
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Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
Please explain to me how thousands of illegal aliens from Mexico that have taken advantage of the policies in Hospital emergency rooms AND they fact that pregnant women will time their border crossing to insure that their child will become a citizen after being born which had led to the closing of those same Hospitals because they have not been paid for the services rendered by these very same illegal aliens has ANYTHING to do with how the nazi's treated the jews?Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
Quit drinking the kool aid.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
The right wing control this country therefore they ARE to blame for how it's run. Nice try obediant.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
Whoop dee doo, Why don't you calculate how much migrant workers bring to add to the economy. Ask your leader his opinions on what migrant workers bring and why he hasn't shut them down.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
To the nazis they weren't even human. Much less legal
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
Yes, Adolf Hitler.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
Hold your breath.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div>
Are you actually denying the fact the right wingers control this country? Good God the kool aid's neck deep in here.Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
Lemme splain something to you Crosstica. The mexicans are being allowed to invade so that the wages and standard of living for the average American worker can be lowered. This is being done so that the entire North American Bloc can be turned into a welfare dependant third world outhouse pit with an easially controlled, desperate population. Do you want this country to look like Mexico? Both the right and left wings of the power elite are energetically working on this agenda while we sit here and smear each other for our damn pollitical labels.
The people who control this country are a mixture of the less flattering, more statist parts of right and left. They switch the label on who'se in power occasionally to fool the people. Apperently it works on some of us.Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
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If that means freedom from a christian theocracy, then let it be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Darkwolf\")</div>
While this may be true to some extent, the republican ideologies are the ones the american people are supporting right now in allowing my freedoms to be stripped from me. You can claim a shadow government til you're blue in the face, republican ideals are to blame here. The american people aren't innocent just like the nazi germans weren't. And They're using your own ignorance against you. Any other excuses you can make up to shift blame from your own ideologies to someone else, just won't cut it "hannity".
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Darkwolf\")</div>
And if you try to use the people in control's political leanings to deny this country has embraced christian extremist ideals, then the only person being fooled is you. Or you're being down right dishonest to shift the blame from yourself to someone else. Nice try.
Harte
Senior Member
Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
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Crosstika, what would you say to the legal Mexican-Americans that make exactly this point?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
Is this some kind of racist slur against Hispanics? You imply that hispanics all drink kool aid? That they can't afford soft drinks?
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I would submit that it is you that is scapegoating. Blame the right wing for everything - it won't cut it, Hilary.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
In what way did your original post refer to the way the country was being run? In what way did my response refer to the way the country was being run?
Crying racism everytime something isn't being done to your satisfaction? Was Bill Clinton responsible for the crack in the Liberty Bell merely because he and a liberal majority ran the country for a time? You are scapegoating the right wing for the worst of reasons, simply because you happen to disagree with them. You have not uttered one fact about how the right wing is scapegoating a race of people for their own problems, an assertion you blithely made in your earlier post but have since seen fit to conveniently ignore. I wish you would clarify exactly what you are talking about, at least, I wish it were possible for you to do that.
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Legal residents and citizens of this country are bearing an increasing burden on our collective backs, the cost of supporting the illegals.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
I guess you don't know that there is a difference between migrant workers and illegal aliens. Migrant workers are legally employed registered temporary residents of this country. It is unlawful for anyone to employ an illegal alien, not that I believe that this isn't being done. As for why the illegal flow of aliens into this country hasn't been shut down, read Darkwolf's post. This assertion you make about "my leader" not "shutting down" the flow of illegals actually flies in the face of your earlier post about right wingers scapegoating an entire race, unless you don't count Bush as a right winger. Interesting to me to see that both the left and right wing agree on this issue. Not very interesting to you, I guess.
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The Nazi's cynically blamed the Jews for the everyday average (Aryan) German's economic woes. How is this analogous to the right wing today? Were the Jews in Nazi Germany illegal immigrants?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
I ask you again, were the jews in Nazi Germany illegal aliens? Of course, you know they were not. Yet you compare the Nazi's atrocious acts to some people that are trying to execute a perfectly legitimate role of the government - border control. What on earth would you say a border is for? Cartography alone?
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Is the right wing saying that hispanics are causing a recession? Was there a jew serving as head of the Nazi equivalent of the Justice Department in Germany?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
Now you say that Hitler was Jewish. That pretty much sums you up I guess.
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Originally Posted by Harte
Are you saying that the right wing is blaming hispanics for the right wing's economic problems? You owe right wingers an apology for that despicable slur you posted.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
I'll hold my nose, if you don't mind, when reading your next illogical, emotional and juvenile tirade.
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I suppose that you would blame the right wing for the economic woes of Mexico, judging by your post. Harte
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Crosstika\")</div>
Nowhere in my post do I make such a statement. You have created it as a "straw man" so you would have something you could actually shoot down. However, I do deny that the right wingers control the government of Mexico, which is the chief cause of the Mexican's economic woes.
By the way, overuse of a particular simile (such as "kool aid") is evidence of an extremely weak mind. It reminds me of Rush Limbaugh's dittoheads.Re: minuteman project... waco type event???
Spoken like somone who's never seen it. The Christian aspect of the republican party is just window dressing ment to control a very unified voting block, not their real idology.
What freedoms are those? Are you refering to the patriot act? Know who came up with it? Bill Clinton. He called it the OMNIMUS anti terrorist act, and failed to pass it. There is virtually no difference between the two bills. Nor much between Clinton and Bush so far as I can tell.
They aren't my idologies. I don't need excuses, "Moore".
Hey Cary, doesn't this guy sound kind of familiar? Kind of like a certian religious presidential figure we had here awhile ago?