Misrule and Criminal Rule of America

StarLord

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Thank you for the tissues.


Aye my friend, Impressive is a good discription, I have learned not to drink any beverages when reading his posts, I weary of cleaning my monitor and desk :lol:

I am a single malt scotch man myself, I have been know to talk to Jack on occasion. I prefer the Cohiba from havana. I get a real treat this friday, I am going to Puerto Viarta for a week, and they get Cohibas' from the land of castro at a most excelent price. The Dominican hand rolled is not bad either. I think the Red Dot Cohiba is from Dominican republic if I am not mistaken. Worst thing Castro ever did to his industry was to take it over, he lost a few generations of the best cutters and rollers known to mankind. Too bad, his loss our gain.
 

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Originally posted by Cornelia@Aug 17 2004, 06:33 PM
This forum is growing machist everyday. :angry:

Now Cornelia, what do you expect? A bunch of guys throw their opinions around, and the subject of the motivating power of an angry woman comes up. As men, I'm sure we've all experienced that, beginning with our mothers. I guess you have to be a man to appreciate how an angry woman, especially one a man cares about, can be a powerful motivator to "do something", anything, to change the mood. My apologies for any offenses on my part.

Cary
 

Judge Bean

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Originally posted by CaryP+Aug 18 2004, 10:46 AM--><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Cornelia@Aug 17 2004, 06:33 PM
This forum is growing machist everyday.? :angry:

Now Cornelia, what do you expect? A bunch of guys throw their opinions around, and the subject of the motivating power of an angry woman comes up. As men, I'm sure we've all experienced that, beginning with our mothers. I guess you have to be a man to appreciate how an angry woman, especially one a man cares about, can be a powerful motivator to "do something", anything, to change the mood. My apologies for any offenses on my part.

Cary
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I'm tending to believe these days that it's the only sort of motivation that will save our sorry...
 

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A frequent change of men will result from a frequent return of elections, and a frequent change of measures, from a frequent change of men: whilst energy in Government requires not only a certain duration of power, but the execution of it by a single hand.
James Madison

I own I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive. The late rebellion in Massachusetts has given more alarm than I think it should have done. Calculate that one rebellion in 13 states in the course of 11 years, is but one for each state in a century & a half. No country should be so long without one. Nor will any degree of power in the hands of government prevent insurrections.
Thomas Jefferson


Against the brute exercise of power in the modern age has risen the heroic principle of civil disobedience. But how do you offer nonviolent resistance to a corporation? How do the people revolt against an enormous government institution—the bureaucracy—which itself employs hundreds of thousands of those who should rebel?

The problem we now face derives from the original balance struck. The Constitution is a compromise between the volunteered waiver of some rights in exchange for security. The transaction remains incomplete within the exigencies of the pace and heat of history; but the basic arrangement needs no further alteration. Americans will continue to resist the encroachment and the government will continue to test the bounds of its power so long as there are Americans who consent to a rule of law.

Yet there is no adequate rule or law under the current bureaucracy and its system of legislation, which is so big that it is easily manipulated in small ways for private advancement. It is a legislative system, a Fourth Branch, set up over time contrary to the representational system mandated by the Constitution. It is an illegal system, and antidemocratic. A system which operates to benefit the elite and wealthy, and supporting corporate interests, may not be as far as any ever devised from the hopes and plans of the Constitutional inventors, but a Fourth Branch of clerks and petty tyrants was not what they foresaw.

The onerous bureaucracy and its draconian tedium has given us the bizarre situation of American citizens turning their cash over to foreign nations without representation, and to frivolous artists, elaborate frauds, and fallow farmers. Who knows where the money goes? It cannot be known; the pettifoggers and spendthrifts themselves are in charge of release of the information.

The multiplicity of laws under the rubric of regulation destroys democracy. Profusion of rules and regulations is profusion of laws, but laws made without the direct expression of the voters’ will. It is legislation indirect, and delegated, but insufficiently monitored or limited. The constant churning over and amendment of law destroys its power, which depends upon concision and brevity to fly directly to the heart.

Law exists in abstract terms of justice, and depends upon conveyed meaning. The majority must be able to comprehend it without explanation of myriad exceptions and conditions. Thousands of detailed regulations operate en masse against communication, such that no person can truly be on notice of violation, or informed of his compliance; ignorance of the law becomes a defense when the judges and attorneys don’t know the exact current form of the law any more than the parties in a case. The simple but pervasive law of notice, an essential concept to our justice system, is rendered toothless by the monstrous bureaus.

To succeed in profit, corporations must do business beyond the reach of the legal systems, which are as risky to them in their excess as in their clear statement of corporate obligations, either of which may put a crimp in cashflow. This is because corporations have become criminal enterprises.

Of course it is clear that government is not a business any longer conducted for the benefit of the people. It has become a department within every major corporation, run by corporate figures. Corporations are persons, and even have many rights we ordinarily regard as personal and individual.

But since corporations are not citizens and cannot vote, they should not be allowed to participate directly in democracy. Corporations are the ones who should be delegated to indirect representation, not the people. If government is not now representative of the democratic will, for whom else does it work but for the fictional persons, the corporations?

Cabinet members, heads of government agencies, and the offices of president and vice president swap executive officers and corporate counsel without restraint or shame. One year an important person is said to represent his constituency; the next year when he leaves office he represents a corporate interest, in both instances exercising the same skills and employing the same network of influences.

Others are dragged directly from the boardroom to the cabinet, carrying with them the very same agenda and mission, and never losing sight of their masters’ will. The Framers were quite wary of alternate masters imposing their will into the federal government, and separated church from State from the military, and the courts from legislation, and legislation from enforcement of laws, for that very reason.

Among the rotating officers of government and private industry there is no sense or invocation of public service, or temporary consignment of personal talent for the good of the democratic community—instead, a Cincinnatus now carries his reins to drive the plow through the halls of Congress and out the back door back into the light, making the government a part of his private crop.

The people through their elected officials long ago outlawed overbearing corporations. The antitrust laws are now a well-established system of prosecuting business misconduct, and allow of concurrent civil and criminal cases against monopolists and those engaged in other anticompetitive conduct.

Now into its second century, the antitrust movement clearly represents the will of the people to restrict corporations; and it was recognized by Congress that capitalism is not capable of governing itself. The corporations have done nothing lately to redeem themselves from this original judgment, and have always conducted themselves according to the single common rule of profit.

The influence of the corporations is illegal and undemocratic, and the people should consider the separation of Business and the State no less important than that of Church and State; but it doesn’t require a Constitutional amendment to make something illegal which is so obviously contrary to the democratic idea.

Congress and the States have also passed the RICO statutes, which, like the antitrust laws, have State and federal as well as civil and criminal components—that’s how important these laws are. They were originally targeted to the nexus between business and organized crime, but have been expanded to include a wide range of profiteering.

The will of the people has made them important, and they are aimed at organizations which try to avoid law and order to profit by unfair tactics if not outright crime. But how does the government respond to the most grandiose racketeers of all?

Not with enforcement of the laws. The will of the people is overridden. Organizations deflect law enforcement by doppelganger, committee, diffusion into the many, who are thought to share guilt the way they do dividends. Corporations extort freedom of taxation, running the common racket of threatening to relocate to more amenable jurisdictions.

What is organized crime if not the organized intent to profit from government? They don’t pay taxes; they don’t obey the laws; they all have their hands in the public till up to the elbows. Why do we tolerate this? What will we do when the money runs out? Will we bomb somebody to clear the air then?
 

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A brief history of government

At the dawn of human development, there were only separate human individuals who, like other animals solely driven by their genes, came together briefly for purposes of copulation. Eventually, individuals realized the advantages they could derive from forming permanent attachments between males and females.

However, soon conflicts developed due to the close proximity of family members and the conflicting desires of individuals in their effort to enhance their individual well-being. In spite of these conflicts, human beings coalesced into groups because doing so enhanced their survival. However, the more people congregated and the more groups coalesced into communities, the more conflicts arose.

In their effort to prevent or resolve conflicts, humans utilized their rational mind to establish basic ground rules for their peaceful cohabitation and coexistence. This spirit of cooperation resulted in a system of rules, of laws, that governed their mutual conduct. These laws represented mutually beneficial arrangements based on mutually formulated rights.

The persons who framed the laws and rights made sure, in keeping with innate, human nature, that these laws provided not only for a smooth functioning of society, but also allowed for benefits accruing specifically to the framers of such codified rights.

The persons, who drew up the laws, called themselves politicians and formed a government. Some of the rules they established were mutually beneficial to all members of society. Some of the rules were strictly for their own benefit without regard to the public welfare. This is the way it has been ever since. Governments exist for two purposes: To enhance the well-being of citizens by coordinating their behavior, and to benefit the politicians who make the laws and tax their populace.

Therefore; a government exists to exercise political authority, direction and restraint over the actions of inhabitants of communities, societies or states. (Webster?s Dictionary)

All governments are comprised of two layers: A large number of bureaucrats at the bottom, and a small number of politicians at the top. Politicians are persons who are recognised to have a high AIQ (Aggressiveness Intelligence Quotient). The combination of their aggressiveness with their relatively high intelligence enables them to prod the general population into compliance with their wishes and desires.

Some governments may be more aggressive than others are, but all governments have in common the ability and the willingness to use force, or the threat of force, to perpetuate their existence and to bring about compliance with the wishes of its leadership. The secondary and progressively lower layers of government consist of large numbers of so-called public servants who act as the bureaucratic executives of the dominant layer of government.

The establishment of a government purportedly intends to facilitate the cooperative efforts of its constituents. Governments are thus initially beneficial to man and his societies. However, as time passes, professional politicians have a tendency to take over control of governmental institutions for their own purposes. They then proceed to arrange the political agenda to suit their own purposes and needs, frequently under the pretext of altruistic motivations.

This development in governmental structures is part of innate human nature and does not necessarily reflect negatively on government officials. The arena of politics is a power-game. This arrangement is simply the way human beings are and is simply the way the world really works.

Smart persons can adjust to living happily within the framework of their government, of any government. Only fools try to attack or change their governments, or their politicians and their political agendas. Mischievous politicians are the price we have to pay for civic order.

Governments may assert their authority with or without the consent of the governed population. A unique feature of a governmental institution, as opposed to a commercial institution, is its ability to manipulate people under their control into doing what may not actually be in their best self-interest.

The superior intellectual ability of politicians to apply manipulation and authority can also serve as a deterrent to potential political unrest within the population. Politicians maintain and justify governmental force for the alleged purpose of preserving law and order within the political unit. The manipulation of the population by propaganda often invokes the purported need to protect the population from real or imagined adversaries beyond its boundaries.

The institution of government represents a further ramification in the already complex correlation of money and human happiness. The primary obstacle to financial success rests in the provisions of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This Law of Nature stipulates that it is inherently more difficult to accumulate and maintain wealth, than to lose it.

Governments introduce a significant element of entropy into the process of wealth creation and preservation, because governments have a tendency to transfer substantial amounts of wealth and energy from the productive sector to the unproductive sector of society.

In their efforts to achieve a productive and happy life, most members of a particular society welcome the productive efforts of their government, while compensating for the un-productive and destructive forces of their government. Governments can have many beneficial aspects if their institutions operate within a democratic framework.

Governments can also reflect the innate human desire to obtain something of value by confiscating it from others by taxation and inflation under the guise of a mutual benefit. Government can also enhance wealth because it often provides a platform of law and order, which is essential to the creation of wealth. Another beneficial aspect of Government rests in its ability to provide a social safety net for persons who are unable to provide for themselves. People simply do not like to stumble over derelicts in the gutter.

However, government can also be inherently destructive to personal wealth because it transfers valuable resources from the productive to the unproductive sectors of society. Such transfers are destructive to individual incentives and, in their extremity, are an integral part of communistic economic systems.

The government of the United States can serve as an example in this regard, due to its profound influence on global commerce as well as on US citizens: At the beginning of the 21st century, various layers of government in the US absorbed 46% of the productivity of its citizens.

The U.S. Government imposes taxes on a vast variety of services and products, ranging from tax on telephone services to import tariffs, to property taxes, to income taxes - the list is endless. Inflation, the consequence of the unrestrained expansion of the money supply of a nation, eventually affects other nations, causing distortions in global economics.

The essentially unproductive armed services of a country absorb a major portion of the wealth confiscated from citizens. Bombs and bullets do not contribute to the wealth of ordinary people. The U.S. Government is not benign in the taxation of its citizens, if compared with many other nations.

The concept of freedom is very broad. It has many faces and nuances. It is very important to appreciate the fact that a reference to freedom does not imply that we must feel free to stand on a soapbox. When we talk about freedom, we are referring primarily to our economic freedom: The ability to engage in economic transactions without coercive interference by our government.

If we live in a society that oppresses our freedom of speech, this fact alone is immaterial if the government does not interfere with our ability to take our marbles and play somewhere else. In other words, as long as there is no economic oppression, few people are concerned about freedom of speech.

As long as the government does not randomly confiscate our property, nothing else really matters because the very concept of freedom actually revolves around monetary concerns and our freedom of movement. We need the freedom to prosper financially; we do not need freedom of speech, to be happy. We do get very unhappy when the government confiscates our money and arbitrarily throws us into jail.

Freedom of speech is worth little in itself but it is the guardian of all other freedoms. The primary reason we need freedom of speech is due to the tendency of oppressive governments to curtail the right to speech. The first step for a new dictator is to silence the printing presses. The next step in the subjugation of citizens is to abrogate the right to own firearms, then he confiscates the wealth of the disarmed population and finally he throws any dissenters into concentration camps. Therefore, it is extremely important to live in a society that safeguards the right to free speech.

Two hundred years ago, the French philosopher Rousseau formulated the basic principle of interaction between man and his governments: "The less government, the better off its citizenry". This simple but axiomatic statement remains the ultimate foundation of individual freedom. Human beings are only free to the extent that governments are inefficient.

The advantages and disadvantages of a particular government revolve around many shades of gray. In his seminal work, The Wealth of Nations, Adam Smith set forth three, and only three, legitimate functions of any government: 1. The judiciary, 2. The protection of the country against foreign enemies, and 3. The infrastructure, such as highways and bridges. To these factors, we could add the social safety net as a modern, enlightened function of government.

A minimal layer of government, in the form of a coordinating effort, is clearly beneficial to society because it is essential to the smooth interaction of members of society. This minimal governmental layer is similar to a lubricant: Grease is a medium that facilitates the movement of interacting parts.

However, grease can become an impediment to movement if we apply it excessively. If this happens, the grease clogs the gears and slows them down, instead of lubricating them. One of the problems attributable to all forms of government is its inherent tendency to expand until it controls an overwhelming portion of the productive sector of the economy.

Therefore, when dealing with any form of government, it is very important to recognize that politicians, the dominant elements of governments, will always follow the dictates of basic human nature: All human beings always act in what they consider to be in their best self-interest.

Politicians may proclaim that they serve the public and that they act only with altruistic motives. However, if we carefully examine the motivations of politicians, we will always find that, in keeping with human nature, their own self-serving motivations may or may not coincide with the actual well-being of ordinary citizens.

This principle applies to kings and dictators as well as to politicians in more democratic forms of government. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the United States of America represent the most profound evolution of the political process during the last 7000 years. Contrary to common belief, the purpose of the Bill of Rights is not to protect citizens from foreign enemies or from enemies of the government. The sole purpose of the Bill of Rights is to protect American citizens from their own, elected politicians.

The Bill of Rights places powerful restraints on the often aggressive or rapacious conduct of politicians and governmental institutions. The framers of the constitution made provision for the availability of arms to the populace. They had learned that freedom will whither unless it citizens can enforce it with arms, if necessary. In reviewing the history of human political system, they realized that all governments have the inevitable tendency to deprive their citizens of their freedom and their property.

The founding fathers were greatly concerned about the ability of the State to enslave and impoverish people with its armed forces, paid for by money confiscated from citizens. They believed that the tendency of politicians to enslave their citizenry needed to be balanced by the ability of the population to resist and defend itself by the force of arms. Ever since the Second Amendment to the Constitution embedded these principles in the Bill of Rights, politicians have tried hard to negate this law and to deprive citizens of their arms.


---I Ain't finished yet---------------------------
---Grayson--------------------------------------
 

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I can see how it got to the point where we had to tell the English what freedom and democracy meant. I can only tell you that liberty for Americans is an impassioned principle, not a papery concept. You can tell what is an important value in a culture by what they are willing to bleed for. I would give my life for the way of life outlined in the Constitution, for the freedom of other Americans, and for yours.
 

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Organizations deflect law enforcement by doppelganger, committee, diffusion into the many, who are thought to share guilt the way they do dividends. Corporations extort freedom of taxation, running the common racket of threatening to relocate to more amenable jurisdictions.

What is organized crime if not the organized intent to profit from government? They don?t pay taxes; they don?t obey the laws; they all have their hands in the public till up to the elbows. Why do we tolerate this? What will we do when the money runs out? Will we bomb somebody to clear the air then?

Well put Paul. The corporate ruling elite have their hands in an additional spot besides the public till, and its way past their elbows. Follow the money.

I can see how it got to the point where we had to tell the English what freedom and democracy meant. I can only tell you that liberty for Americans is an impassioned principle, not a papery concept. You can tell what is an important value in a culture by what they are willing to bleed for. I would give my life for the way of life outlined in the Constitution, for the freedom of other Americans, and for yours.

I'm with you bro'. Reading your post followed by Grayson's was a great juxtaposition of the American and British viewpoints.

Ralan, anyone at the top of your bombing list? My bet is Iran, followed by Syria, unless No. Korea gets t'acting all upity as they're want to do.

Cary
 

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