Re: NASA Moon Landing hoax
Zoomerz Said:
YIKES! I grew up in the space program. My Father designed the space pack used by the Apollo 13 crew to traverse outside of the ship at Gianini and North American Rockwell. You've all seen it, and might recognize it as the \"james bond jetpack\". Anyway, he was also deeply involved in the lunar rover design.
I can still remember watching the landing with my family. Dad commenting at various points to explain what was happening.
There's plenty of conspiracy theories to focus on my friends. This one is most certainly a dead end.
Hey Zoomerz, my Dad actually worked for the Apollo program in Houston. I have a great deal of respect for him and all that worked on the program. I too think/ hope we went to the moon. However your statement about
This one is most certainly a dead end.
is about as lame as the PM article debunking 9/11.
Remember the time period we were living in. It was the height of the Cold War. The US needed something to convince the Russians and the World that we had technological superiority. They had nukes and wanted to use them against us in the early 60's. Of course, you being much older than I would remember this better. I would not put it past the powers that be to make an elaborate hoax to convince the world or our superiority. It would not take the involvement of thousands, only the top leaders and a few astronauts that would do anything for King, God and Country. If they were not this type of person, then they would not be qualified to be in the program. They were truly heros in many different ways.
However, the photo's mentioned above are most certainly faked. That doesn't mean we didn't go. I remember a picture at the Johnson Space center showing the Golf swing showing both of the astronauts watching the ball fly into space. The only problem was, one of them was supposed to have taken the picture.
NASA most definitely mocked up publicity pictures. They would have done this regardless of whether we were successful or not. If the astronauts didn't get good pictures, had film problems, whatever, they still needed cool pictures to show the people how good we are. You don?t invest this kind of money not have good pictures for what ever reason. The Pictures don't concern me.
I believe we had rockets, did the math to get us there and everything. The only issue that I personally have is the radiation.
read this article as Space.com
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/radi...isk_040517.html
Apparently, Deep space radiation is an issue to going back to the moon. The Researchers at NASA are still trying to solve this. The article states:
?[Radiation] is one of the largest obstacles that we?re going to have to overcome,? said Terri Lomax, NASA director of fundamental space biology division and a professor at Oregon State University,
They try to blow off the exposure that the Apollo guys had by saying we only sent them on 3 day trips. Well, it seems to me that either, we were very comfortable with our technology in 1968 to protect the astronauts or they took an extreme risk, or they were just stupid or something and didn't think about radiation or they didn?t land.
I know they weren't stupid because I know my Dad. I also know they thought about it because my father told me about the Van Allen belts when I was 7 or so. So that means they must have had great confidence or they didn't go. I think the Apollo capsules themselves had good protection. However, the space suits are suspect. When they were on the moon was the most exposed they would be.
The Lunar surface in full sun would be extremely hot and radioactive. The Hinkle Cameras they were using are un shielded. You can see these at the Space museums. They also had to be focused, F-stopped, etc ... there was no view finder and the Astronauts could not see if the film had advanced when their spacesuit covered hands pushed the button on the side of the camera. Therefore, it would be a miracle to get one good picture, let a lone hundreds of perfect, professionally composed pictures. Thus the only conclusion can be that the pictures were faked. But, like I said before, they are irrelevant to the fact of whether we landed.
NASA says that there was not high radiation at the time of the landings therefore, the EVA's were safe. I just find this hard to believe. The space suits just didn't have any real radiation shielding in them. I remember seeing a piece of the suit my father had that I took to ?show and tell.? I was young though and not an expert in shielding. But, thinking back now it had many layers but were designed to block heat, move moisture, trap the body heat ect ? And they are still trying to make shielded suits for EVA's inside of the Van Allen belts. That is one reason Hubble is allowing to be decommissioned. It is too risky to go fix it because of radiation the astronauts experience during EVAs.
I believe they could have landed on the Dark side of the mood and done and EVA, and they definitely could have flown to the moon circled it and flown back. I remember my father telling me that he was on the team doing the math to prove there were no black holes between the earth and the moon. The only part that needed to be faked was the actual lunar landing itself.
I agree that the sound recording is a bit suspicious even with your in-depth analysis of microphone technology. A directional voice activated mike still should pick up the sound of an engine with 10000lbs of force about 2 feet under the astronaut. The Lander was not very big and Armstrong was definitely not enclosed in a space suit when landing or he could not have used the joy stick to maneuver the rockets. This too could have been produced for the same reason as the pictures. To put on a good show. It would only take an astronaut playing a tape while circling the moon. No one at Mission Control would have known any thing was wrong.
I am convinced we circled the moon. I know they put a reflector on the moon they have been pinging with Lazars since 1968. Perhaps they landed or dropped it. This alone was a miracle feat for 1968 with completely analogue tools. However, although I hope we actually landed and did the EVA's I am not convinced it happened. If they did, boy did they have balls and got real lucky because none of the astronauts ever got sick from radiation poisoning.
So to me either we know how to shield astronauts, should go fix the hubble and should go back or we don't. The Chinese will tell us the truth when they get there. I really hope there is a little flag and a rover up there when they get there.
Bubbu
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