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<blockquote data-quote="Rosco..Jones" data-source="post: 47629" data-attributes="member: 2729"><p>Hey Num, that's not exactly the message I was trying to convey.</p><p>Consciousness and belief systems have a direct correlation as to how we interpret, experience and understand the events that intrude upon our personal realities. (quite a mouthful) A hammer is a tool, that in some hands, can be used to build beautiful things. In the hands of others it can be used to kill. It is not up to the tool to decide how it is used. It is up to the person using the tool.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the Ouija, you can consciously decide where to move the pointer to spell out messages. This is "playing" and the board acts as a toy. If you remove your conscious will and allow the subconscious to determine the movements, that can be a tool. Either way, it all depends on your belief system.</p><p></p><p>How an Ouija works is a different question. To allow the possibility of its validity we need to leave the safety of the shallow end of the pool and venture in over our heads. First you have to accept that there is a reality outside of the physical. The origins of our thoughts and muscular motor activity initiate there. The firing of the neurons that start and control our movements are not the result of random or purely sequential chemical reactions. A neurons rest state exists as a standing probability wave waiting to be fired. The collapse of this probability wave and the resultant firing of the neuron is a quantum conscious event and is initiated from outside the physical. Having a focus on the board and an openness to the possibilities, enables a non-physically focused consciousness to affect your motor functions through your subconscious. So, while y<u>ou</u> may not be moving the pointer, physically you are. It's just that you may not be driving the car, so to speak.</p><p></p><p>Jane Roberts first utilized the Ouija when researching a book on ESP. Investigative questions were asked that provided information that could be verified through historical records. At a later point, the Ouija was dispensed with when the communication advance to her "channeling" the entity she was communicating with (Seth). I did research on psychic phenomenon back in the 70's. Part of this included looking into the Ouija board. I must say that <u>I</u> had mixed results at the time. I may have fallen into the "trying" to make it function, rather than "allowing" it to happen. There <u>were</u> times when I felt it was working. The communication at these times was felt to originate from outside myself and the responses were intriguing. There was enough for me to believe in the probability of its being a valid tool, but that I was not too adept at.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rosco..Jones, post: 47629, member: 2729"] Hey Num, that's not exactly the message I was trying to convey. Consciousness and belief systems have a direct correlation as to how we interpret, experience and understand the events that intrude upon our personal realities. (quite a mouthful) A hammer is a tool, that in some hands, can be used to build beautiful things. In the hands of others it can be used to kill. It is not up to the tool to decide how it is used. It is up to the person using the tool. Regarding the Ouija, you can consciously decide where to move the pointer to spell out messages. This is "playing" and the board acts as a toy. If you remove your conscious will and allow the subconscious to determine the movements, that can be a tool. Either way, it all depends on your belief system. How an Ouija works is a different question. To allow the possibility of its validity we need to leave the safety of the shallow end of the pool and venture in over our heads. First you have to accept that there is a reality outside of the physical. The origins of our thoughts and muscular motor activity initiate there. The firing of the neurons that start and control our movements are not the result of random or purely sequential chemical reactions. A neurons rest state exists as a standing probability wave waiting to be fired. The collapse of this probability wave and the resultant firing of the neuron is a quantum conscious event and is initiated from outside the physical. Having a focus on the board and an openness to the possibilities, enables a non-physically focused consciousness to affect your motor functions through your subconscious. So, while y[U]ou[/U] may not be moving the pointer, physically you are. It's just that you may not be driving the car, so to speak. Jane Roberts first utilized the Ouija when researching a book on ESP. Investigative questions were asked that provided information that could be verified through historical records. At a later point, the Ouija was dispensed with when the communication advance to her "channeling" the entity she was communicating with (Seth). I did research on psychic phenomenon back in the 70's. Part of this included looking into the Ouija board. I must say that [U]I[/U] had mixed results at the time. I may have fallen into the "trying" to make it function, rather than "allowing" it to happen. There [U]were[/U] times when I felt it was working. The communication at these times was felt to originate from outside myself and the responses were intriguing. There was enough for me to believe in the probability of its being a valid tool, but that I was not too adept at. [/QUOTE]
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