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<blockquote data-quote="Padraic" data-source="post: 7447" data-attributes="member: 96"><p><strong>Padraic</strong></p><p></p><p>You have many valid points there. I have not been around long enough to be familiar with the other incident you speak of, so please excuse my ignorance on that point. I will address a couple of your other points here, but not at great length for I have an appointment I must leave for shortly. </p><p></p><p>Regarding my use of the word "faith", perhaps there is another word that better describes the point I was trying to make. There is faith in the religious sense, like the faith some people have in God or whatever other deity they choose to worship, and there is faith in the very normal sense, like the faith you have that something you read about or hear of it actually true. Much of ancient history falls under this category, at least the way I look at it, but I am by no means an historian. There are events that we are told happened, and some of them offer scant evidence as to their happening. Some are documented better than others and in some cases there are conflicting stories circulating regarding what actually happened. Homer's accounts of the Trojan War would fall under this category, since Homer, being a poet, was known to embellish somewhat. There is no evidence for some of what he said happened, so there is the very real possibility that some of what he said is mere fancy. Here I go rambling again. What I mean to say is that I did not mean to use the word "faith" in the sense that you hear people speak of having "blind faith" or an assent to something with absolutely no evidence to back it up, but merely faith in the everyday sense. It is, after all, the choice of the individual to weigh the evidence put forth and form an opinion. Human beings being the fallible creatures they are, will interpret things differently and form different opinions based on the same evidence. Those opinions are more often than not shaped by some pre-conceived notions of reality that each person holds and which tend to form the way we believe about certain things. I have plenty to say about that, so perhaps another post this evening will be in order.</p><p></p><p>Yes, one cannot hold employment, or do much of anything for that matter, without proper identification. The people who took me in helped me do that by first obtaining a birth certificate for me claiming me as their son. No doubt the document was forged, but I am no expert in those matters, so I am not sure how the forgery was done. It is a simple document with some signatures on it, a date and time of birth, and a raised seal on it, so no doubt a document someone with the requisite skills could easily forge. This was used to obtain a social security card and, once I had learned, a driving permit. I started working shortly after, and I have a fairly steady work history dating back to late 1994, starting out with unskilled work in a shopping mall during the Christmas shopping season and some temporary assignments. I am not going to give out my social security number, not that I fear the scrutiny, but because I have heard too many stories about the dangers of giving that out. </p><p></p><p>You appear to be a fairly sharp fellow and you pointed out a logical error in my previous post, which sometimes may happen when I find myself typing on the fly without stopping to think about what I am saying. Your unicorn analogy is most fitting. For the inconsistencies I must apologize, but if we go too far in that direction I fear I will be sadly out of my depth, for my education is limited at best and I do not always express myself in as complete a manner as I wish. Please pardon my inadequacies in that area. I am better with hands on things. Manual work makes more sense to me than some of the mental gymnastics you seem capable of. My hat is off to you, sir.</p><p></p><p>Now I must be off. I will be back later this afternoon. </p><p></p><p>Regards,</p><p></p><p>Padraic</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Padraic, post: 7447, member: 96"] [b]Padraic[/b] You have many valid points there. I have not been around long enough to be familiar with the other incident you speak of, so please excuse my ignorance on that point. I will address a couple of your other points here, but not at great length for I have an appointment I must leave for shortly. Regarding my use of the word "faith", perhaps there is another word that better describes the point I was trying to make. There is faith in the religious sense, like the faith some people have in God or whatever other deity they choose to worship, and there is faith in the very normal sense, like the faith you have that something you read about or hear of it actually true. Much of ancient history falls under this category, at least the way I look at it, but I am by no means an historian. There are events that we are told happened, and some of them offer scant evidence as to their happening. Some are documented better than others and in some cases there are conflicting stories circulating regarding what actually happened. Homer's accounts of the Trojan War would fall under this category, since Homer, being a poet, was known to embellish somewhat. There is no evidence for some of what he said happened, so there is the very real possibility that some of what he said is mere fancy. Here I go rambling again. What I mean to say is that I did not mean to use the word "faith" in the sense that you hear people speak of having "blind faith" or an assent to something with absolutely no evidence to back it up, but merely faith in the everyday sense. It is, after all, the choice of the individual to weigh the evidence put forth and form an opinion. Human beings being the fallible creatures they are, will interpret things differently and form different opinions based on the same evidence. Those opinions are more often than not shaped by some pre-conceived notions of reality that each person holds and which tend to form the way we believe about certain things. I have plenty to say about that, so perhaps another post this evening will be in order. Yes, one cannot hold employment, or do much of anything for that matter, without proper identification. The people who took me in helped me do that by first obtaining a birth certificate for me claiming me as their son. No doubt the document was forged, but I am no expert in those matters, so I am not sure how the forgery was done. It is a simple document with some signatures on it, a date and time of birth, and a raised seal on it, so no doubt a document someone with the requisite skills could easily forge. This was used to obtain a social security card and, once I had learned, a driving permit. I started working shortly after, and I have a fairly steady work history dating back to late 1994, starting out with unskilled work in a shopping mall during the Christmas shopping season and some temporary assignments. I am not going to give out my social security number, not that I fear the scrutiny, but because I have heard too many stories about the dangers of giving that out. You appear to be a fairly sharp fellow and you pointed out a logical error in my previous post, which sometimes may happen when I find myself typing on the fly without stopping to think about what I am saying. Your unicorn analogy is most fitting. For the inconsistencies I must apologize, but if we go too far in that direction I fear I will be sadly out of my depth, for my education is limited at best and I do not always express myself in as complete a manner as I wish. Please pardon my inadequacies in that area. I am better with hands on things. Manual work makes more sense to me than some of the mental gymnastics you seem capable of. My hat is off to you, sir. Now I must be off. I will be back later this afternoon. Regards, Padraic [/QUOTE]
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