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John Titor's Legacy
Alexander's Chat Logs
Part #14 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 22, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor
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<blockquote data-quote="Opmmur" data-source="post: 85345" data-attributes="member: 13"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>mIRC Feb. 22, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Posted by: Professor Opmmur</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Session Start: February 22, 07:20, 2004</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn</em></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>[10:00] <Thelper> as he isnt 100% sure</p><p>[10:00] <Thelper> it be in your life time</p><p>[10:00] <SkAtchison> Then that would be fate Guii as I understand the concept.</p><p>[10:00] <SnowFireWatches> He is decent sounding man - who not treat you like a fruitcake</p><p>[10:00] <AlexanderTT> actually I would get a good laugh out of being treated like a fruitcake</p><p>[10:00] <SkAtchison> From what I understand fate is not a well recieved concept</p><p>[10:00] <Thelper> I for one need this war to come</p><p>[10:00] <Thelper> if it dont we would end up</p><p>[10:01] <catman1> George would maybe want to talk to you within a week of the show over the phone or by e-mail!!!</p><p>[10:01] <Thelper> killing ourselfs of</p><p>[10:01] <Thelper> like some other worldlines have</p><p>[10:01] <AlexanderTT> was John offered to be on a show?</p><p>[10:01] <Guui> I don't beleive in fate. Nothing has been predetermined.. well uh.. ok, it depends once again how you look at time.. but no great entity has dictated my life. I'm on controll of my own life (to some degree anyway).</p><p>[10:01] <Guui> *afk - kitchen*</p><p>[10:01] <SnowFireWatches> Remember - John did it in SOME timeline <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>[10:01] <Thelper> karma does guui</p><p>[10:01] <SkAtchison> Physical death is an inevitable end, why would someone fear it?</p><p>[10:01] <catman1> The John T thing is strange he was on the show I beleive</p><p>[10:01] <Thelper> karma does infulence your life</p><p>[10:02] <AlexanderTT> wait!! he was on the show:?</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> no</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> he wasnt</p><p>[10:02] <SkAtchison> Thelper explain Karma</p><p>[10:02] <AlexanderTT> that doesnt sound like the John I knew</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> someone else took the credit</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> its not</p><p>[10:02] <Cyberbomb> in some time line he could of been ;p</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> also it after he said he gone</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> the guy did it</p><p>[10:02] <SnowFireWatches> it was called the ART BELL SHOW - Coat to Coast</p><p>[10:02] <Thelper> made it into joke</p><p>[10:02] <catman1> I understand that Art Bell retired shortly after the JT thing</p><p>[10:02] <Cyberbomb> haa haa haa, karma, do something good, good things happen, do bad, bad things happen etc</p><p>[10:03] <catman1> ther was something there that must have scared Art Bell</p><p>[10:03] <AlexanderTT> would I be required to answer questions for the whole 4 hours?</p><p>[10:03] <Thelper> hence this</p><p>[10:03] <Thelper> war yrs of bad through world</p><p>[10:03] <Thelper> and karma cleasing us</p><p>[10:03] <SnowFireWatches> It depends on your conversation skills</p><p>[10:03] <catman1> no....just 1 hour I beleive</p><p>[10:03] <AlexanderTT> who's art bell?</p><p>[10:03] <SnowFireWatches> if you caryy the conversation questions arent necessary</p><p>[10:04] <catman1> Had the show first then retired now he is back on the weekends</p><p>[10:04] <Thelper> alex could just send recorded</p><p>[10:04] <Guui> *idling - eating* <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/18.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[10:04] <Thelper> his story?</p><p>[10:04] <AlexanderTT> what is the point of this show?</p><p>[10:04] <Thelper> wouldnt it be safer?</p><p>[10:04] <Thelper> record him telling story</p><p>[10:04] <Thelper> btw alex</p><p>[10:04] <catman1> Get your message across what do you want people to know or do</p><p>[10:05] <SnowFireWatches> to expose people to the "other sides" of things</p><p>[10:05] <Thelper> if your time having trouble finding water</p><p>[10:05] <Thelper> cryokinesis</p><p>[10:05] <Thelper> would help you here link</p><p>[10:05] <catman1> Tell of what is coming try to make a difference</p><p>[10:05] <AlexanderTT> well I would enjoy answering questions , but I am concerened about security isses and potential harm to me or my family</p><p>[10:05] <Thelper> <a href="http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=3" target="_blank">http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=3</a></p><p>[10:05] <SnowFireWatches> to give a voice to people media wont hear or report</p><p>[10:05] <Thelper> specially if u slander governement</p><p>[10:05] <Thelper> they would be there quick smart silence ya</p><p>[10:06] <mrmagic526> right because the media is government controlled so it would be hard</p><p>[10:06] <Thelper> yep</p><p>[10:06] <catman1> John Lear (son of the man who invented the lear jet) is one there from time to time stating he worked on Ufo's at Area 51...and he is always worried about the govt</p><p>[10:06] <SkAtchison> Cleansing, I've heard the refrence, explain.</p><p>[10:06] <SnowFireWatches> it is an entertainment venue - but taken seriously by many people depending on the topic</p><p>[10:07] <SkAtchison> Alexander from your frame of refrence thre still exist the idea of good and bad?</p><p>[10:07] <Thelper> cleansing is like a change in way a world working like a society getting a boot up the ass</p><p>[10:07] <AlexanderTT> well, my topic is of the utmost serious</p><p>[10:07] <Thelper> hence the ww3</p><p>[10:07] <AlexanderTT> yes SkAtchison, yin and yang</p><p>[10:07] <Thelper> alot ppl will care mroe about living than now and mroe about having food or place sleep</p><p>[10:07] <SkAtchison> You believe you deserve to be punished as a race thelper?</p><p>[10:07] <Thelper> when it not available at shops</p><p>[10:07] <catman1> then it needs to be told to millions of people!~!!</p><p>[10:07] <Thelper> all negativity yes</p><p>[10:07] <Thelper> it has to happen</p><p>[10:08] <SkAtchison> Interesting</p><p>[10:08] <Guui> Karma means that if you should do horrible things, you will be punished for this in a surposed next life. - The thing is... you are suffering hardships and such and might even die early because of the bad karma you have.. even tho there is no way for you to know what you did before you're still punished...</p><p>[10:08] <mrmagic526> I wish we could have the change without the death and war but in order for people to wake up to what's really important in life suffering needs to happen. It always has been that way</p><p>[10:08] <Thelper> think this way if it dont</p><p>[10:08] <Thelper> it would eventually</p><p>[10:08] <catman1> Im also a ham radio operator and so is Art Bell</p><p>[10:08] <Thelper> and more u developed things kill self</p><p>[10:08] <Thelper> worse it be</p><p>[10:08] <Thelper> even made destroying earth</p><p>[10:08] <Thelper> it best have it now</p><p>[10:08] <AlexanderTT> has anyone ever thought about this?</p><p>[10:09] <SnowFireWatches> Art Bell has a serious interest in Time Travel</p><p>[10:09] <Thelper> also guui it effects your life now</p><p>[10:09] <Thelper> as well</p><p>[10:09] <SnowFireWatches> Heck so does George</p><p>[10:09] <AlexanderTT> every country goes through a rebellion eventually. your first one in the US was repressed</p><p>[10:09] <Thelper> but yes</p><p>[10:09] <Thelper> it does work like that</p><p>[10:09] <SkAtchison> I find that to be the most intersting concept of all that one must suffer to advance.</p><p>[10:09] <vlady> wait everyone queit... Alex go on</p><p>[10:10] <SnowFireWatches> first one? repressed? alex? the first civil war?</p><p>[10:10] <AlexanderTT> I was just trying to make a point and start conversation</p><p>[10:10] <mrmagic526> I've read that they really estimate a democracy to last around 200 years. at that point corruption and greed set in. Then it's time to start over.</p><p>[10:10] <AlexanderTT> yes the first one</p><p>[10:10] <Thelper> its learning from experience "suffering in this case"</p><p>[10:10] <AlexanderTT> it was stopped</p><p>[10:10] * OmegaKnight has joined #AlexanderTTonline</p><p>[10:10] <catman1> I would have to have a way to contact Alex other than this way though!!</p><p>[10:10] <Cyberbomb> hey omega =D</p><p>[10:10] <SnowFireWatches> It was "lost" isn't that what a southern boy means to say?</p><p>[10:10] <vlady> not being american... what was the 1st one againg about... independence?</p><p>[10:10] <mrmagic526> when was the first one? you talking about the civil war?</p><p>[10:11] <AlexanderTT> catman1, what do you need?</p><p>[10:11] <catman1> Probably a good e-mail address!!!</p><p>[10:11] <Thelper> yankees vs conved?</p><p>[10:11] <Thelper> wasnt it?</p><p>[10:11] <SkAtchison> Would you consider youself a pariah in this place and time Alexander?</p><p>[10:11] <vlady> no</p><p>[10:11] <vlady> i thought it was US and English</p><p>[10:11] <catman1> Where hundreds are not listening in!!!</p><p>[10:11] <AlexanderTT> no it was about leaving the corrupt dictatorship of a Government and making there own country, and it didnt happen, it was stopped</p><p>[10:11] <SnowFireWatches> that was war for independence</p><p>[10:12] <AlexanderTT> pariah?</p><p>[10:12] <mrmagic526> that civil war cost the lives of more americans than any war combined. The english one wasn't a civil war. </p><p>[10:12] <Cyberbomb> int that a fish ;P</p><p>[10:12] * Jorune sets mode: +v OmegaKnight</p><p>[10:12] <mrmagic526> I guess the media burried that one</p><p>[10:13] <vlady> well.. that sounds like symantics... the war was on american soil.. the 'Rebels' fought for independence.. that is civil is it not?</p><p>[10:13] <mrmagic526> I know a couple of states say that if we go to martial law have passed bills in the state congress to leave the nation and start off on own</p><p>[10:13] <vlady> ok... according to alex , my question is irrelevant anyway... when did this 'hidden' civil war occur?</p><p>[10:13] <SnowFireWatches> vlady the war with the english is called the war for independence - the war between north and south was called the civil war</p><p>[10:13] <AlexanderTT> but how can you do that mrmagic526, if troops occupy your cities?</p><p>[10:13] <catman1> There is something on Coast to Coast with George Noory called "fast blast" a quick e-mail...if I did that and told him who I was...I would get a reply on the spot!!</p><p>[10:13] <SnowFireWatches> that is what i was trying to tell you</p><p>[10:13] <AlexanderTT> it wasnt hidden vlady, I was speaking of the first one</p><p>[10:14] <mrmagic526> I know alex. I read that and I figured there would be no way for them to leave</p><p>[10:14] <Thelper> the war already started it just not plane obviosu</p><p>[10:14] <vlady> Sorry Alex..</p><p>[10:14] <Thelper> but signs are there </p><p>[10:14] <SkAtchison> from your frame of reference Alexander it would be one who can only watch that which is inevitable occur but can do nothing to change it.</p><p>[10:14] <vlady> I meant the first one! <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/1.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[10:14] <SnowFireWatches> ok so did alex?</p><p>[10:15] <SnowFireWatches> im am now officially confused?</p><p>[10:15] <AlexanderTT> yes SkAtchison, I do feel like I am screaming and nobody hears me</p><p>[10:15] <Thelper> alexander you time have water problems?</p><p>[10:15] <AlexanderTT> but nature will correct itself here, and most of these people will wonder what happened for years</p><p>[10:15] <catman1> Hey Alex what does another candidate "Nader" do make it easier for Bush to win without a lot of trouble!!!</p><p>[10:15] <mrmagic526> Well i've understood what you are talking about. However I don't want to go into it here since I offend people when I get religious</p><p>[10:15] <vlady> haa haa haa..n iheard somoething about this today</p><p>[10:15] <AlexanderTT> huh catman1?</p><p>[10:16] <catman1> Also CNN breaking news says the capital of Haitii is being attacked now!!!</p><p>[10:16] <vlady> there's another candidate called Nader</p><p>[10:16] <SkAtchison> That is true of any place and time Alexander do not most parents attempt to save their children only to see them make the same mistakes ... more than likely the ingrained belief in Karma that thelper spoke of.</p><p>[10:16] <catman1> Ralph Nader is now running for president also</p><p>[10:16] <AlexanderTT> agreed SkAtchison</p><p>[10:16] <mrmagic526> I wish I had a tv at work. I'd like to see this haiti stuff</p><p>[10:17] <AlexanderTT> ralp nader, why does that sound familier?</p><p>[10:17] <SkAtchison> Religion offends people mrmagic?</p><p>[10:17] <catman1> Green Party</p><p>[10:17] <Thelper> ive known about that for while</p><p>[10:17] <Thelper> u only found that out?</p><p>[10:17] <SnowFireWatches> do you watchthe news these days alex?</p><p>[10:17] <AlexanderTT> oh yeah, I remember reading about that</p><p>[10:17] <vlady> WAIT EVERYONE...</p><p>[10:17] <AlexanderTT> sometimes I watch C-span</p><p>[10:17] <mrmagic526> well people got all riled up last time i brought up religion</p><p>[10:17] <SkAtchison> Why should the belif structure of another individual offend another?</p><p>[10:17] <vlady> i just looked up CNN and found somehting else</p><p>[10:18] <mrmagic526> so who's rebeling in haiti?</p><p>[10:18] <SkAtchison> Don't you believe in what you believe in regardless of what others think? Why should that offend?</p><p>[10:18] <Guui> ....Yes vlady?</p><p>[10:18] <vlady> a prediction was made about a helicopter being shot down involving workers in mideast.. cant remember if Afghan or Bagdad but there is a report there now</p><p>[10:19] <SnowFireWatches> It is not the belief structure that offends - it is the pushing of that belief structure to the exclsuion of other pints of view thatoffends</p><p>[10:19] <Guui> hm</p><p>[10:19] <vlady> someone will need to go through the logs of the TT Kid with funny slang English</p><p>[10:19] <mrmagic526> Skatchison it's just that the argument is not against my beliefs it was the fact that most seemed to not believe in anything</p><p>[10:19] <Cyberbomb> because people always want to be right ska, if you say something that contredicts what somebody else believes that threatens them and their egos, and we all know how egos can flare</p><p>[10:19] <SkAtchison> How could achomplish pushing a belief structure on someone should they choose not to?</p><p>[10:19] <vlady> i remember it cos i vocally mentioned that predction to a workmaate 3-4 days ago</p><p>[10:20] <vlady> can someone verifyt this please?</p><p>[10:20] <SkAtchison> Would not you be right for yourself?</p><p>[10:20] <mrmagic526> What I'm saying about the correction that Alex is talking about has happened before. Once if you believe in Noah's flood. Another when Christ came to the America's after his resurection. The wicked were destroyed by earthquakes.</p><p>[10:20] <SnowFireWatches> but that has happened already before - what make predicting it would happen again andything more than a likely guess?</p><p>[10:20] <catman1> Got your message Alex and I can get that also!!</p><p>[10:21] <AlexanderTT> good catman1</p><p>[10:21] <Thelper> i beleive weather well get worse</p><p>[10:21] <Thelper> also</p><p>[10:21] <SkAtchison> How can another contradict what you belive to be true unless your structure of belief is not part of your being?</p><p>[10:21] <vlady> no there was a more specific descpripton of it, as opposed to 'copter shot down'</p><p>[10:21] <Guui> Oh yeah.. Noahs flood... I just love that story... Only Noahs family was allowed to survive.. everyone else was drowned... even infants and small kids. <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/18.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[10:21] <Thelper> huh</p><p>[10:21] <SnowFireWatches> k that wouldintersting if you could find it in the logs vlady</p><p>[10:21] <SkAtchison> If it does doesn't that mean that you yourself do not actually follow that system of belief?</p><p>[10:21] <Thelper> u havtn read it have u gui</p><p>[10:22] <catman1> Im silly how do I answer those Snow</p><p>[10:22] <Thelper> 2 each species male female</p><p>[10:22] <mrmagic526> understood. they didn't attack my beliefs at all it was just that they didn't want me to talk about religion of any type. However I believe religion is tied hand in hand with the future alex and John Titor speak of</p><p>[10:22] <Guui> Yeah... My mom and dad was very religious once.</p><p>[10:22] <Cyberbomb> people need a reason to live and because they cant be strong for themselve, they need religion</p><p>[10:22] <Thelper> alex gone?</p><p>[10:23] <Thelper> some religion is true</p><p>[10:23] <SkAtchison> Very confusing</p><p>[10:23] <Thelper> but they mess things up</p><p>[10:23] <Cyberbomb> ill se for myself some day</p><p>[10:23] <Thelper> u already know some of it if u astral cyber</p><p>[10:23] <Thelper> m sure u came incontact with divines?</p><p>[10:23] <SnowFireWatches> catman click on the blinky thing at the top with ny name - if you already ahve just type in command line like you do here</p><p>[10:23] <Cyberbomb> yes, but I do not see god in astral nor feel him</p><p>[10:23] <SkAtchison> How can one not be strong for themselves, they are themselves and thus know what it is to be themselves</p><p>[10:24] <Guui> Damn.. astral cybering? That sounds kinky.. <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/7.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[10:24] <mrmagic526> Thelper the stuff you believe that you've mentioned to me already is very similar to what my church teaches. many members of my church don't see the teachings but even Joseph Smith had once written about an experience "Whether in the body or out I cannot tell"</p><p>[10:24] <Cyberbomb> u can do ANYTHING in astral that u can do here</p><p>[10:24] <Cyberbomb> =D</p><p>[10:24] <SkAtchison> You are only limited by that which you limit yourself with.</p><p>[10:24] <Guui> ....I thought I could do more. <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/18.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[10:25] <Guui> Like /godmode and /impulse 101 and stuff</p><p>[10:25] <Cyberbomb> u can do far much more then u can do here in astral, u can fly, teleport etc =D</p><p>[10:25] <SnowFireWatches> see how itgoes - suddenly we are talking religion and not TT</p><p>[10:25] <Thelper> where did alex go</p><p>[10:25] <mrmagic526> see what I'm saying some people get all offended when we start religion</p><p>[10:25] <Thelper> cyber u learning the psi now?</p><p>[10:25] <SnowFireWatches> and alex who we all want to speak with is silent</p><p>[10:25] <Cyberbomb> thats cous many ppl believe in religion in teh futur!!</p><p>[10:25] <Thelper> your phsysic powerS?</p><p>[10:25] <Guui> He went over there... To read that magazine. *points*</p><p>[10:26] <SkAtchison> SnowFireWatches do you believe the concept of science is in some fashion disconnected from the refrence you call religion?</p><p>[10:26] <Cyberbomb> I havent gooten a chance to thelper, life is nice and busy ;P</p><p>[10:26] <SnowFireWatches> i believe they bothlead to the same truth</p><p>[10:26] <Thelper> some science helps prove yeah</p><p>[10:26] <Thelper> but alot science is preventing learning</p><p>[10:26] <Thelper> due to so call not possible</p><p>[10:26] <Thelper> rule etc</p><p>[10:26] <SnowFireWatches> one by faith the other by test</p><p>[10:27] <Guui> And a lot of religion creates wars and backwards thinking.</p><p>[10:27] <SkAtchison> Limitations placed only by those that fear what they call an ultimate truth.</p><p>[10:27] <Thelper> TK is indeed possible by everyone</p><p>[10:27] <Thelper> it just knowing it can be done is trick</p><p>[10:27] <Guui> Science rawks! <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/7.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[10:27] <SnowFireWatches> there is only one ultimate truth</p><p>[10:27] <catman1> My e-mail is messed up</p><p>[10:27] <Thelper> when we die</p><p>[10:27] <Thelper> we find out more</p><p>[10:27] <SnowFireWatches> so all seekers of the truth are headed in the same direction whether they think soornot</p><p>[10:28] <mrmagic526> there are many that don't cause backward thinking. I agree that most do.</p><p>[10:28] <Thelper> you can head futher thou</p><p>[10:28] <Thelper> snow</p><p>[10:28] <Thelper> if u advance in this lifetimes u can go to 6th dimention</p><p>[10:28] <Thelper> instead 5th</p><p>[10:28] <Thelper> etc</p><p>[10:28] <catman1> <a href="mailto:Alex.....midnightwx@yahoo.com">Alex.....midnightwx@yahoo.com</a></p><p>[10:28] <Guui> 6th?</p><p>[10:28] <SnowFireWatches> there is no "further" than ultiamte truth is there?</p><p>[10:29] <Guui> Thelper: please explain the 6th dimension</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> its where divines are</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> all these Gods</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> are true</p><p>[10:29] <Guui> divines... ok.. 7th?</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> just known</p><p>[10:29] <SnowFireWatches> ack</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> by what they did in that time</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> etc</p><p>[10:29] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> hence we know there names</p><p>[10:29] <SnowFireWatches> where is alex - </p><p>[10:29] <mrmagic526> ultimate truth. Depends on your point of view. Your Ultimate truth in an eternal sense is probably not all that ultimate</p><p>[10:29] <Thelper> they called divines</p><p>[10:29] <SkAtchison> That would denote there is an end, the ultimate truth (if that is your frame of refrence) is that there is no end or answer only continued learning. Why would one wish to end?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Opmmur, post: 85345, member: 13"] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#80ff00][I]mIRC Feb. 22, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX Posted by: Professor Opmmur Session Start: February 22, 07:20, 2004 Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [10:00] <Thelper> as he isnt 100% sure [10:00] <Thelper> it be in your life time [10:00] <SkAtchison> Then that would be fate Guii as I understand the concept. [10:00] <SnowFireWatches> He is decent sounding man - who not treat you like a fruitcake [10:00] <AlexanderTT> actually I would get a good laugh out of being treated like a fruitcake [10:00] <SkAtchison> From what I understand fate is not a well recieved concept [10:00] <Thelper> I for one need this war to come [10:00] <Thelper> if it dont we would end up [10:01] <catman1> George would maybe want to talk to you within a week of the show over the phone or by e-mail!!! [10:01] <Thelper> killing ourselfs of [10:01] <Thelper> like some other worldlines have [10:01] <AlexanderTT> was John offered to be on a show? [10:01] <Guui> I don't beleive in fate. Nothing has been predetermined.. well uh.. ok, it depends once again how you look at time.. but no great entity has dictated my life. I'm on controll of my own life (to some degree anyway). [10:01] <Guui> *afk - kitchen* [10:01] <SnowFireWatches> Remember - John did it in SOME timeline :-) [10:01] <Thelper> karma does guui [10:01] <SkAtchison> Physical death is an inevitable end, why would someone fear it? [10:01] <catman1> The John T thing is strange he was on the show I beleive [10:01] <Thelper> karma does infulence your life [10:02] <AlexanderTT> wait!! he was on the show:? [10:02] <Thelper> no [10:02] <Thelper> he wasnt [10:02] <SkAtchison> Thelper explain Karma [10:02] <AlexanderTT> that doesnt sound like the John I knew [10:02] <Thelper> someone else took the credit [10:02] <Thelper> its not [10:02] <Cyberbomb> in some time line he could of been ;p [10:02] <Thelper> also it after he said he gone [10:02] <Thelper> the guy did it [10:02] <SnowFireWatches> it was called the ART BELL SHOW - Coat to Coast [10:02] <Thelper> made it into joke [10:02] <catman1> I understand that Art Bell retired shortly after the JT thing [10:02] <Cyberbomb> haa haa haa, karma, do something good, good things happen, do bad, bad things happen etc [10:03] <catman1> ther was something there that must have scared Art Bell [10:03] <AlexanderTT> would I be required to answer questions for the whole 4 hours? [10:03] <Thelper> hence this [10:03] <Thelper> war yrs of bad through world [10:03] <Thelper> and karma cleasing us [10:03] <SnowFireWatches> It depends on your conversation skills [10:03] <catman1> no....just 1 hour I beleive [10:03] <AlexanderTT> who's art bell? [10:03] <SnowFireWatches> if you caryy the conversation questions arent necessary [10:04] <catman1> Had the show first then retired now he is back on the weekends [10:04] <Thelper> alex could just send recorded [10:04] <Guui> *idling - eating* [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/18.png[/IMG] [10:04] <Thelper> his story? [10:04] <AlexanderTT> what is the point of this show? [10:04] <Thelper> wouldnt it be safer? [10:04] <Thelper> record him telling story [10:04] <Thelper> btw alex [10:04] <catman1> Get your message across what do you want people to know or do [10:05] <SnowFireWatches> to expose people to the "other sides" of things [10:05] <Thelper> if your time having trouble finding water [10:05] <Thelper> cryokinesis [10:05] <Thelper> would help you here link [10:05] <catman1> Tell of what is coming try to make a difference [10:05] <AlexanderTT> well I would enjoy answering questions , but I am concerened about security isses and potential harm to me or my family [10:05] <Thelper> [url="http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=3"]http://www.psipog.net/show.php?id=3[/url] [10:05] <SnowFireWatches> to give a voice to people media wont hear or report [10:05] <Thelper> specially if u slander governement [10:05] <Thelper> they would be there quick smart silence ya [10:06] <mrmagic526> right because the media is government controlled so it would be hard [10:06] <Thelper> yep [10:06] <catman1> John Lear (son of the man who invented the lear jet) is one there from time to time stating he worked on Ufo's at Area 51...and he is always worried about the govt [10:06] <SkAtchison> Cleansing, I've heard the refrence, explain. [10:06] <SnowFireWatches> it is an entertainment venue - but taken seriously by many people depending on the topic [10:07] <SkAtchison> Alexander from your frame of refrence thre still exist the idea of good and bad? [10:07] <Thelper> cleansing is like a change in way a world working like a society getting a boot up the ass [10:07] <AlexanderTT> well, my topic is of the utmost serious [10:07] <Thelper> hence the ww3 [10:07] <AlexanderTT> yes SkAtchison, yin and yang [10:07] <Thelper> alot ppl will care mroe about living than now and mroe about having food or place sleep [10:07] <SkAtchison> You believe you deserve to be punished as a race thelper? [10:07] <Thelper> when it not available at shops [10:07] <catman1> then it needs to be told to millions of people!~!! [10:07] <Thelper> all negativity yes [10:07] <Thelper> it has to happen [10:08] <SkAtchison> Interesting [10:08] <Guui> Karma means that if you should do horrible things, you will be punished for this in a surposed next life. - The thing is... you are suffering hardships and such and might even die early because of the bad karma you have.. even tho there is no way for you to know what you did before you're still punished... [10:08] <mrmagic526> I wish we could have the change without the death and war but in order for people to wake up to what's really important in life suffering needs to happen. It always has been that way [10:08] <Thelper> think this way if it dont [10:08] <Thelper> it would eventually [10:08] <catman1> Im also a ham radio operator and so is Art Bell [10:08] <Thelper> and more u developed things kill self [10:08] <Thelper> worse it be [10:08] <Thelper> even made destroying earth [10:08] <Thelper> it best have it now [10:08] <AlexanderTT> has anyone ever thought about this? [10:09] <SnowFireWatches> Art Bell has a serious interest in Time Travel [10:09] <Thelper> also guui it effects your life now [10:09] <Thelper> as well [10:09] <SnowFireWatches> Heck so does George [10:09] <AlexanderTT> every country goes through a rebellion eventually. your first one in the US was repressed [10:09] <Thelper> but yes [10:09] <Thelper> it does work like that [10:09] <SkAtchison> I find that to be the most intersting concept of all that one must suffer to advance. [10:09] <vlady> wait everyone queit... Alex go on [10:10] <SnowFireWatches> first one? repressed? alex? the first civil war? [10:10] <AlexanderTT> I was just trying to make a point and start conversation [10:10] <mrmagic526> I've read that they really estimate a democracy to last around 200 years. at that point corruption and greed set in. Then it's time to start over. [10:10] <AlexanderTT> yes the first one [10:10] <Thelper> its learning from experience "suffering in this case" [10:10] <AlexanderTT> it was stopped [10:10] * OmegaKnight has joined #AlexanderTTonline [10:10] <catman1> I would have to have a way to contact Alex other than this way though!! [10:10] <Cyberbomb> hey omega =D [10:10] <SnowFireWatches> It was "lost" isn't that what a southern boy means to say? [10:10] <vlady> not being american... what was the 1st one againg about... independence? [10:10] <mrmagic526> when was the first one? you talking about the civil war? [10:11] <AlexanderTT> catman1, what do you need? [10:11] <catman1> Probably a good e-mail address!!! [10:11] <Thelper> yankees vs conved? [10:11] <Thelper> wasnt it? [10:11] <SkAtchison> Would you consider youself a pariah in this place and time Alexander? [10:11] <vlady> no [10:11] <vlady> i thought it was US and English [10:11] <catman1> Where hundreds are not listening in!!! [10:11] <AlexanderTT> no it was about leaving the corrupt dictatorship of a Government and making there own country, and it didnt happen, it was stopped [10:11] <SnowFireWatches> that was war for independence [10:12] <AlexanderTT> pariah? [10:12] <mrmagic526> that civil war cost the lives of more americans than any war combined. The english one wasn't a civil war. [10:12] <Cyberbomb> int that a fish ;P [10:12] * Jorune sets mode: +v OmegaKnight [10:12] <mrmagic526> I guess the media burried that one [10:13] <vlady> well.. that sounds like symantics... the war was on american soil.. the 'Rebels' fought for independence.. that is civil is it not? [10:13] <mrmagic526> I know a couple of states say that if we go to martial law have passed bills in the state congress to leave the nation and start off on own [10:13] <vlady> ok... according to alex , my question is irrelevant anyway... when did this 'hidden' civil war occur? [10:13] <SnowFireWatches> vlady the war with the english is called the war for independence - the war between north and south was called the civil war [10:13] <AlexanderTT> but how can you do that mrmagic526, if troops occupy your cities? [10:13] <catman1> There is something on Coast to Coast with George Noory called "fast blast" a quick e-mail...if I did that and told him who I was...I would get a reply on the spot!! [10:13] <SnowFireWatches> that is what i was trying to tell you [10:13] <AlexanderTT> it wasnt hidden vlady, I was speaking of the first one [10:14] <mrmagic526> I know alex. I read that and I figured there would be no way for them to leave [10:14] <Thelper> the war already started it just not plane obviosu [10:14] <vlady> Sorry Alex.. [10:14] <Thelper> but signs are there [10:14] <SkAtchison> from your frame of reference Alexander it would be one who can only watch that which is inevitable occur but can do nothing to change it. [10:14] <vlady> I meant the first one! [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/1.png[/IMG] [10:14] <SnowFireWatches> ok so did alex? [10:15] <SnowFireWatches> im am now officially confused? [10:15] <AlexanderTT> yes SkAtchison, I do feel like I am screaming and nobody hears me [10:15] <Thelper> alexander you time have water problems? [10:15] <AlexanderTT> but nature will correct itself here, and most of these people will wonder what happened for years [10:15] <catman1> Hey Alex what does another candidate "Nader" do make it easier for Bush to win without a lot of trouble!!! [10:15] <mrmagic526> Well i've understood what you are talking about. However I don't want to go into it here since I offend people when I get religious [10:15] <vlady> haa haa haa..n iheard somoething about this today [10:15] <AlexanderTT> huh catman1? [10:16] <catman1> Also CNN breaking news says the capital of Haitii is being attacked now!!! [10:16] <vlady> there's another candidate called Nader [10:16] <SkAtchison> That is true of any place and time Alexander do not most parents attempt to save their children only to see them make the same mistakes ... more than likely the ingrained belief in Karma that thelper spoke of. [10:16] <catman1> Ralph Nader is now running for president also [10:16] <AlexanderTT> agreed SkAtchison [10:16] <mrmagic526> I wish I had a tv at work. I'd like to see this haiti stuff [10:17] <AlexanderTT> ralp nader, why does that sound familier? [10:17] <SkAtchison> Religion offends people mrmagic? [10:17] <catman1> Green Party [10:17] <Thelper> ive known about that for while [10:17] <Thelper> u only found that out? [10:17] <SnowFireWatches> do you watchthe news these days alex? [10:17] <AlexanderTT> oh yeah, I remember reading about that [10:17] <vlady> WAIT EVERYONE... [10:17] <AlexanderTT> sometimes I watch C-span [10:17] <mrmagic526> well people got all riled up last time i brought up religion [10:17] <SkAtchison> Why should the belif structure of another individual offend another? [10:17] <vlady> i just looked up CNN and found somehting else [10:18] <mrmagic526> so who's rebeling in haiti? [10:18] <SkAtchison> Don't you believe in what you believe in regardless of what others think? Why should that offend? [10:18] <Guui> ....Yes vlady? [10:18] <vlady> a prediction was made about a helicopter being shot down involving workers in mideast.. cant remember if Afghan or Bagdad but there is a report there now [10:19] <SnowFireWatches> It is not the belief structure that offends - it is the pushing of that belief structure to the exclsuion of other pints of view thatoffends [10:19] <Guui> hm [10:19] <vlady> someone will need to go through the logs of the TT Kid with funny slang English [10:19] <mrmagic526> Skatchison it's just that the argument is not against my beliefs it was the fact that most seemed to not believe in anything [10:19] <Cyberbomb> because people always want to be right ska, if you say something that contredicts what somebody else believes that threatens them and their egos, and we all know how egos can flare [10:19] <SkAtchison> How could achomplish pushing a belief structure on someone should they choose not to? [10:19] <vlady> i remember it cos i vocally mentioned that predction to a workmaate 3-4 days ago [10:20] <vlady> can someone verifyt this please? [10:20] <SkAtchison> Would not you be right for yourself? [10:20] <mrmagic526> What I'm saying about the correction that Alex is talking about has happened before. Once if you believe in Noah's flood. Another when Christ came to the America's after his resurection. The wicked were destroyed by earthquakes. [10:20] <SnowFireWatches> but that has happened already before - what make predicting it would happen again andything more than a likely guess? [10:20] <catman1> Got your message Alex and I can get that also!! [10:21] <AlexanderTT> good catman1 [10:21] <Thelper> i beleive weather well get worse [10:21] <Thelper> also [10:21] <SkAtchison> How can another contradict what you belive to be true unless your structure of belief is not part of your being? [10:21] <vlady> no there was a more specific descpripton of it, as opposed to 'copter shot down' [10:21] <Guui> Oh yeah.. Noahs flood... I just love that story... Only Noahs family was allowed to survive.. everyone else was drowned... even infants and small kids. [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/18.png[/IMG] [10:21] <Thelper> huh [10:21] <SnowFireWatches> k that wouldintersting if you could find it in the logs vlady [10:21] <SkAtchison> If it does doesn't that mean that you yourself do not actually follow that system of belief? [10:21] <Thelper> u havtn read it have u gui [10:22] <catman1> Im silly how do I answer those Snow [10:22] <Thelper> 2 each species male female [10:22] <mrmagic526> understood. they didn't attack my beliefs at all it was just that they didn't want me to talk about religion of any type. However I believe religion is tied hand in hand with the future alex and John Titor speak of [10:22] <Guui> Yeah... My mom and dad was very religious once. [10:22] <Cyberbomb> people need a reason to live and because they cant be strong for themselve, they need religion [10:22] <Thelper> alex gone? [10:23] <Thelper> some religion is true [10:23] <SkAtchison> Very confusing [10:23] <Thelper> but they mess things up [10:23] <Cyberbomb> ill se for myself some day [10:23] <Thelper> u already know some of it if u astral cyber [10:23] <Thelper> m sure u came incontact with divines? [10:23] <SnowFireWatches> catman click on the blinky thing at the top with ny name - if you already ahve just type in command line like you do here [10:23] <Cyberbomb> yes, but I do not see god in astral nor feel him [10:23] <SkAtchison> How can one not be strong for themselves, they are themselves and thus know what it is to be themselves [10:24] <Guui> Damn.. astral cybering? That sounds kinky.. [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/7.png[/IMG] [10:24] <mrmagic526> Thelper the stuff you believe that you've mentioned to me already is very similar to what my church teaches. many members of my church don't see the teachings but even Joseph Smith had once written about an experience "Whether in the body or out I cannot tell" [10:24] <Cyberbomb> u can do ANYTHING in astral that u can do here [10:24] <Cyberbomb> =D [10:24] <SkAtchison> You are only limited by that which you limit yourself with. [10:24] <Guui> ....I thought I could do more. [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/18.png[/IMG] [10:25] <Guui> Like /godmode and /impulse 101 and stuff [10:25] <Cyberbomb> u can do far much more then u can do here in astral, u can fly, teleport etc =D [10:25] <SnowFireWatches> see how itgoes - suddenly we are talking religion and not TT [10:25] <Thelper> where did alex go [10:25] <mrmagic526> see what I'm saying some people get all offended when we start religion [10:25] <Thelper> cyber u learning the psi now? [10:25] <SnowFireWatches> and alex who we all want to speak with is silent [10:25] <Cyberbomb> thats cous many ppl believe in religion in teh futur!! [10:25] <Thelper> your phsysic powerS? [10:25] <Guui> He went over there... To read that magazine. *points* [10:26] <SkAtchison> SnowFireWatches do you believe the concept of science is in some fashion disconnected from the refrence you call religion? [10:26] <Cyberbomb> I havent gooten a chance to thelper, life is nice and busy ;P [10:26] <SnowFireWatches> i believe they bothlead to the same truth [10:26] <Thelper> some science helps prove yeah [10:26] <Thelper> but alot science is preventing learning [10:26] <Thelper> due to so call not possible [10:26] <Thelper> rule etc [10:26] <SnowFireWatches> one by faith the other by test [10:27] <Guui> And a lot of religion creates wars and backwards thinking. [10:27] <SkAtchison> Limitations placed only by those that fear what they call an ultimate truth. [10:27] <Thelper> TK is indeed possible by everyone [10:27] <Thelper> it just knowing it can be done is trick [10:27] <Guui> Science rawks! [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/7.png[/IMG] [10:27] <SnowFireWatches> there is only one ultimate truth [10:27] <catman1> My e-mail is messed up [10:27] <Thelper> when we die [10:27] <Thelper> we find out more [10:27] <SnowFireWatches> so all seekers of the truth are headed in the same direction whether they think soornot [10:28] <mrmagic526> there are many that don't cause backward thinking. I agree that most do. [10:28] <Thelper> you can head futher thou [10:28] <Thelper> snow [10:28] <Thelper> if u advance in this lifetimes u can go to 6th dimention [10:28] <Thelper> instead 5th [10:28] <Thelper> etc [10:28] <catman1> [email]Alex.....midnightwx@yahoo.com[/email] [10:28] <Guui> 6th? [10:28] <SnowFireWatches> there is no "further" than ultiamte truth is there? [10:29] <Guui> Thelper: please explain the 6th dimension [10:29] <Thelper> its where divines are [10:29] <Thelper> all these Gods [10:29] <Thelper> are true [10:29] <Guui> divines... ok.. 7th? [10:29] <Thelper> just known [10:29] <SnowFireWatches> ack [10:29] <Thelper> by what they did in that time [10:29] <Thelper> etc [10:29] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa [10:29] <Thelper> hence we know there names [10:29] <SnowFireWatches> where is alex - [10:29] <mrmagic526> ultimate truth. Depends on your point of view. Your Ultimate truth in an eternal sense is probably not all that ultimate [10:29] <Thelper> they called divines [10:29] <SkAtchison> That would denote there is an end, the ultimate truth (if that is your frame of refrence) is that there is no end or answer only continued learning. Why would one wish to end? [/QUOTE]
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