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John Titor's Legacy
Alexander's Chat Logs
Part #9 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 17, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor
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<blockquote data-quote="Opmmur" data-source="post: 85318" data-attributes="member: 13"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Posted by: Professor Opmmur</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn</em></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>[03:30] <AlexanderTT> you do not feel as I do</p><p>[03:30] <catman1> yes</p><p>[03:30] <thanatos1> i am NOT belittling you</p><p>[03:30] <thanatos1> that is not my intention</p><p>[03:30] <thanatos1> i want you to answer the questions</p><p>[03:30] <thanatos1> simple</p><p>[03:30] <thanatos1> yet you avoid</p><p>[03:30] <DWOMT> "if" (to Clarify for MadIce)...if Alex is telling the truth..War veterans do not open up that easily</p><p>[03:30] <AlexanderTT> then maybe you should reword your questions</p><p>[03:31] <thanatos1> haa haa haa fair enough, am i so unclear</p><p>[03:31] <DWOMT> my grandfather fought in World War 2...my other grandfather in Vietnam. both had trouble talking about what they experienced</p><p>[03:31] <thanatos1> my grandfather died inww2 concentration camp</p><p>[03:31] <thanatos1> he was slaughtered like an animal</p><p>[03:31] <DWOMT> sorry to hear that</p><p>[03:32] <AlexanderTT> im sorry thanatos1</p><p>[03:32] <thanatos1> but yes i am a coward</p><p>[03:32] <MadIce> Yes. But there is a difference, DWOMT. You grandfathers did fight in a war.</p><p>[03:32] <catman1> My father in law fought hand to hand in WW2...and he says ""I would have never thought that my country would be like it is now...there is going to be r.e.b.e.l.l.i.o.n. someday!!!</p><p>[03:32] <thanatos1> for feeling</p><p>[03:32] <thanatos1> !</p><p>[03:32] <DWOMT> my grandfather was the first wave of troops to hit normandy beach on June 6, 1944 catman</p><p>[03:32] <DWOMT> and he survived it</p><p>[03:32] <AlexanderTT> what do you truly want to know from me thanatos1, no games, I will try to explain to you anything you want</p><p>[03:32] <MadIce> I believe you, DWOMT. Don't get me wrong.</p><p>[03:33] <thanatos1> my ancestors where not combatants ,, just an excuse</p><p>[03:33] <DWOMT> all my ancestors were warriors</p><p>[03:33] <catman1> my father in law was liberation of the Phillippeans</p><p>[03:33] <thanatos1> you treat some of us with contempt alex and you dont reliase it</p><p>[03:33] <DWOMT> especially the native american side of my family</p><p>[03:33] <DWOMT> i come from a bloodline of warriors</p><p>[03:33] <thanatos1> you think we dont know what it means to survive</p><p>[03:33] <thanatos1> and still be human</p><p>[03:33] <AlexanderTT> no matter what you say MadIce, you cannot prove that I did not fight in the Constitutional war</p><p>[03:34] <AlexanderTT> no, i think you dont know as a WHOLE SOCIETY what it is like to be human</p><p>[03:34] <MadIce> And you do?</p><p>[03:34] * MadIce shrugs</p><p>[03:34] <thanatos1> i think you haVe more learning to do</p><p>[03:34] <AlexanderTT> yes</p><p>[03:35] <thanatos1> that is why you said you are here</p><p>[03:35] <thanatos1> but you shun us when we want to talk</p><p>[03:35] <AlexanderTT> we give without recieving, power, money these things are meaningless to us</p><p>[03:35] <thanatos1> do you see my point?</p><p>[03:35] <DWOMT> sorry Alex..have to disagree there..there is still human sides in society today</p><p>[03:35] <AlexanderTT> i dont want to shun</p><p>[03:35] <catman1> Alex..if you had good news....probably no one would argue with you and say "Hope he's right"!!</p><p>[03:35] <AlexanderTT> i do have good news</p><p>[03:36] <catman1> I mean "all" good news</p><p>[03:36] <AlexanderTT> but it happens after the worst time for humanity</p><p>[03:36] <thanatos1> you must understand my discussion with you is personall to me</p><p>[03:36] <AlexanderTT> ask your questions thanatos1</p><p>[03:36] <AlexanderTT> i will answer</p><p>[03:36] <MadIce> What a wonderfull society you must live in. I love the double standards. First you nuke the world. And then you make it better,</p><p>[03:37] <AlexanderTT> well should we have nuked it again?</p><p>[03:37] <thanatos1> i am a skeptic of timetravell but that has no consequence here,, it is not your story that drew me to irc</p><p>[03:37] <AlexanderTT> or maybe no nukes and live as slaves?</p><p>[03:37] <MadIce> You should not nuke it all all.</p><p>[03:37] <AlexanderTT> then what drew you thanatos1</p><p>[03:37] <DWOMT> I have to agree with MadIce on that point.</p><p>[03:37] <DWOMT> there had to be another way besides nukes..there's always another way</p><p>[03:38] <AlexanderTT> you want years from now DWOMT</p><p>[03:38] <thanatos1> the story</p><p>[03:38] <thanatos1> <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/1.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[03:38] <AlexanderTT> you just said the story did not draw you here</p><p>[03:38] <thanatos1> no i said your story</p><p>[03:38] <DWOMT> I'm sorry Alex..but the "me" in 2015 will still believe there had to be another way</p><p>[03:39] <thanatos1> johns story is why i am here</p><p>[03:39] <DWOMT> dropping nukes to kill off millions of fellow americans just seems harsh</p><p>[03:40] <AlexanderTT> and do you see anger, hatred in johns story?</p><p>[03:40] <thanatos1> i felt a resonance of truth in his story that i feel with nobody esle's</p><p>[03:40] <DWOMT> thats like saying in the first Civil War..the north should have completely 100% destroyed the South..including killing 80% of the slaves. Just so they can be free and not slaves</p><p>[03:40] <thanatos1> yes indeed</p><p>[03:40] <thanatos1> but i dont think he is a time traveller</p><p>[03:40] <AlexanderTT> why then the similarities I wonder in our story?</p><p>[03:40] <MadIce> If TT AND multiple worline exists AND there is free will AND your are honest guy you say you are then you would have tried to avoid nuclear war. But why worry about a worldline you have created?</p><p>[03:41] <thanatos1> haa haa haa that is why i am here</p><p>[03:41] <AlexanderTT> what do you think he is thanatos1, pm me that answer</p><p>[03:41] <thanatos1> you tell me</p><p>[03:41] <thanatos1> i dont know alex</p><p>[03:41] <thanatos1> but he believed what he said i think</p><p>[03:41] <AlexanderTT> i want to be clear once again on this subject</p><p>[03:42] * DWOMT reads a magazine while Alex types</p><p>[03:42] <AlexanderTT> I was present the day the order was given, me and many others, the descision was unanimous we would not make another one even know knowing what it did</p><p>[03:43] <MadIce> If TT AND multiple worline exists AND there is free will AND your are the honest guy you say you are then you would have tried to avoid nuclear war. But why worry about a worldline you have created?</p><p>[03:43] <DWOMT> answer his question Alex</p><p>[03:44] <AlexanderTT> you mis understand our position at the time and you mis understand worldlines</p><p>[03:44] <AlexanderTT> i did not create this one</p><p>[03:44] <AlexanderTT> a difference did</p><p>[03:44] <MadIce> I do not, Alex. I know everything about the Everett theory.</p><p>[03:44] <DWOMT> I'm sorry Alex..if I'm alive at that time...I would not have supported the death of millions of americans by nukes and radiation.</p><p>[03:45] <DWOMT> i know myself...i'd be afraid of fleeing the radiation</p><p>[03:45] <DWOMT> I'd think of another way</p><p>[03:45] <AlexanderTT> yes it is true that one worldline was created by my journey and many others will be created by the different choices I make with every thought I have</p><p>[03:46] <MadIce> But thanks for the answer Alex. You once again proved you were making up a story about how worldline fit your logic. At least John Titor did not do that.</p><p>[03:46] <AlexanderTT> but yours is not a waste</p><p>[03:49] <DWOMT> this room just went silent</p><p>[03:50] * Thelper has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks</p><p>[03:50] <Thelper> back</p><p>[03:50] <catman1> still here</p><p>[03:50] <DWOMT> front</p><p>[03:50] <MadIce> Yay!</p><p>[03:50] <Thelper> I dont like this mirc program</p><p>[03:51] <Thelper> alex gone?</p><p>[03:52] <DWOMT> don't know</p><p>[03:52] <DWOMT> he got quiet</p><p>[03:52] <Thelper> i c</p><p>[03:52] <DWOMT> you know, why are all TTers men?..haa haa haa..we need some women TTers</p><p>[03:52] <catman1> Alex are you here?</p><p>[03:53] <DWOMT> hmmm</p><p>[03:53] <DWOMT> there must be a PM battle going on</p><p>[03:53] <DWOMT> I sense it</p><p>[03:53] <Thelper> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.madcow.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.m...w.ap/index.html</a></p><p>[03:53] <AlexanderTT> i am talking to thanatos1</p><p>[03:54] * Cyberbomb has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks</p><p>[03:54] <Cyberbomb> hi all =D</p><p>[03:54] <catman1> hi</p><p>[03:55] <Thelper> hi</p><p>[03:55] <Thelper> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.madcow.ap/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.m...w.ap/index.html</a></p><p>[03:55] <Thelper> read that article</p><p>[03:55] <Cyberbomb> heh, I seen that earler =D</p><p>[03:56] <Thelper> new mutated cow deases</p><p>[03:56] <Thelper> interesting isnt it</p><p>[03:56] <AlexanderTT> not new</p><p>[03:57] <Thelper> since JT said mad cow desease will become a problem</p><p>[03:57] <Cyberbomb> yeah, wonder how long it is till it speads fast then the mydoom virus =D</p><p>[03:57] <Thelper> well to them they renamed it base</p><p>[03:57] <Thelper> so something is different</p><p>[03:57] <Thelper> mad cow isnt doom virus</p><p>[03:57] <Thelper> it spread through meat no?</p><p>[03:57] <Cyberbomb> heh, im making a comparison on how it might spread at the same speed =P</p><p>[03:58] <Cyberbomb> we all open e-mail attachments</p><p>[03:58] <Cyberbomb> we all eat meat =P</p><p>[03:58] <Thelper> cyber you really interesting in spiritually?</p><p>[03:58] <Cyberbomb> simularity, i think so >=D</p><p>[03:58] <Thelper> finding one self?</p><p>[03:58] <Thelper> cuz I know of course im observing starts on 20th</p><p>[03:58] <Thelper> if your interested</p><p>[03:58] <Thelper> its free and online</p><p>[03:58] <Cyberbomb> rofl, why would I spend so much tiem reading this stuff and going to astral theklper =P</p><p>[03:58] <Thelper> i get u link then</p><p>[03:59] <Thelper> <a href="http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/2.html" target="_blank">http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/2.html</a></p><p>[03:59] <Cyberbomb> wait wait, I got school, it might cut into that</p><p>[03:59] * catman1 has quit IRC (Client closed connection)</p><p>[03:59] <Thelper> have look it thou</p><p>[03:59] <Cyberbomb> ok</p><p>[03:59] <Thelper> starts on 20th</p><p>[03:59] <Thelper> its online and free</p><p></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Opmmur, post: 85318, member: 13"] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#80ff00][I]mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX[/I] [I]Posted by: Professor Opmmur[/I] [I]Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004[/I] [I]Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [03:30] <AlexanderTT> you do not feel as I do [03:30] <catman1> yes [03:30] <thanatos1> i am NOT belittling you [03:30] <thanatos1> that is not my intention [03:30] <thanatos1> i want you to answer the questions [03:30] <thanatos1> simple [03:30] <thanatos1> yet you avoid [03:30] <DWOMT> "if" (to Clarify for MadIce)...if Alex is telling the truth..War veterans do not open up that easily [03:30] <AlexanderTT> then maybe you should reword your questions [03:31] <thanatos1> haa haa haa fair enough, am i so unclear [03:31] <DWOMT> my grandfather fought in World War 2...my other grandfather in Vietnam. both had trouble talking about what they experienced [03:31] <thanatos1> my grandfather died inww2 concentration camp [03:31] <thanatos1> he was slaughtered like an animal [03:31] <DWOMT> sorry to hear that [03:32] <AlexanderTT> im sorry thanatos1 [03:32] <thanatos1> but yes i am a coward [03:32] <MadIce> Yes. But there is a difference, DWOMT. You grandfathers did fight in a war. [03:32] <catman1> My father in law fought hand to hand in WW2...and he says ""I would have never thought that my country would be like it is now...there is going to be r.e.b.e.l.l.i.o.n. someday!!! [03:32] <thanatos1> for feeling [03:32] <thanatos1> ! [03:32] <DWOMT> my grandfather was the first wave of troops to hit normandy beach on June 6, 1944 catman [03:32] <DWOMT> and he survived it [03:32] <AlexanderTT> what do you truly want to know from me thanatos1, no games, I will try to explain to you anything you want [03:32] <MadIce> I believe you, DWOMT. Don't get me wrong. [03:33] <thanatos1> my ancestors where not combatants ,, just an excuse [03:33] <DWOMT> all my ancestors were warriors [03:33] <catman1> my father in law was liberation of the Phillippeans [03:33] <thanatos1> you treat some of us with contempt alex and you dont reliase it [03:33] <DWOMT> especially the native american side of my family [03:33] <DWOMT> i come from a bloodline of warriors [03:33] <thanatos1> you think we dont know what it means to survive [03:33] <thanatos1> and still be human [03:33] <AlexanderTT> no matter what you say MadIce, you cannot prove that I did not fight in the Constitutional war [03:34] <AlexanderTT> no, i think you dont know as a WHOLE SOCIETY what it is like to be human [03:34] <MadIce> And you do? [03:34] * MadIce shrugs [03:34] <thanatos1> i think you haVe more learning to do [03:34] <AlexanderTT> yes [03:35] <thanatos1> that is why you said you are here [03:35] <thanatos1> but you shun us when we want to talk [03:35] <AlexanderTT> we give without recieving, power, money these things are meaningless to us [03:35] <thanatos1> do you see my point? [03:35] <DWOMT> sorry Alex..have to disagree there..there is still human sides in society today [03:35] <AlexanderTT> i dont want to shun [03:35] <catman1> Alex..if you had good news....probably no one would argue with you and say "Hope he's right"!! [03:35] <AlexanderTT> i do have good news [03:36] <catman1> I mean "all" good news [03:36] <AlexanderTT> but it happens after the worst time for humanity [03:36] <thanatos1> you must understand my discussion with you is personall to me [03:36] <AlexanderTT> ask your questions thanatos1 [03:36] <AlexanderTT> i will answer [03:36] <MadIce> What a wonderfull society you must live in. I love the double standards. First you nuke the world. And then you make it better, [03:37] <AlexanderTT> well should we have nuked it again? [03:37] <thanatos1> i am a skeptic of timetravell but that has no consequence here,, it is not your story that drew me to irc [03:37] <AlexanderTT> or maybe no nukes and live as slaves? [03:37] <MadIce> You should not nuke it all all. [03:37] <AlexanderTT> then what drew you thanatos1 [03:37] <DWOMT> I have to agree with MadIce on that point. [03:37] <DWOMT> there had to be another way besides nukes..there's always another way [03:38] <AlexanderTT> you want years from now DWOMT [03:38] <thanatos1> the story [03:38] <thanatos1> [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/1.png[/IMG] [03:38] <AlexanderTT> you just said the story did not draw you here [03:38] <thanatos1> no i said your story [03:38] <DWOMT> I'm sorry Alex..but the "me" in 2015 will still believe there had to be another way [03:39] <thanatos1> johns story is why i am here [03:39] <DWOMT> dropping nukes to kill off millions of fellow americans just seems harsh [03:40] <AlexanderTT> and do you see anger, hatred in johns story? [03:40] <thanatos1> i felt a resonance of truth in his story that i feel with nobody esle's [03:40] <DWOMT> thats like saying in the first Civil War..the north should have completely 100% destroyed the South..including killing 80% of the slaves. Just so they can be free and not slaves [03:40] <thanatos1> yes indeed [03:40] <thanatos1> but i dont think he is a time traveller [03:40] <AlexanderTT> why then the similarities I wonder in our story? [03:40] <MadIce> If TT AND multiple worline exists AND there is free will AND your are honest guy you say you are then you would have tried to avoid nuclear war. But why worry about a worldline you have created? [03:41] <thanatos1> haa haa haa that is why i am here [03:41] <AlexanderTT> what do you think he is thanatos1, pm me that answer [03:41] <thanatos1> you tell me [03:41] <thanatos1> i dont know alex [03:41] <thanatos1> but he believed what he said i think [03:41] <AlexanderTT> i want to be clear once again on this subject [03:42] * DWOMT reads a magazine while Alex types [03:42] <AlexanderTT> I was present the day the order was given, me and many others, the descision was unanimous we would not make another one even know knowing what it did [03:43] <MadIce> If TT AND multiple worline exists AND there is free will AND your are the honest guy you say you are then you would have tried to avoid nuclear war. But why worry about a worldline you have created? [03:43] <DWOMT> answer his question Alex [03:44] <AlexanderTT> you mis understand our position at the time and you mis understand worldlines [03:44] <AlexanderTT> i did not create this one [03:44] <AlexanderTT> a difference did [03:44] <MadIce> I do not, Alex. I know everything about the Everett theory. [03:44] <DWOMT> I'm sorry Alex..if I'm alive at that time...I would not have supported the death of millions of americans by nukes and radiation. [03:45] <DWOMT> i know myself...i'd be afraid of fleeing the radiation [03:45] <DWOMT> I'd think of another way [03:45] <AlexanderTT> yes it is true that one worldline was created by my journey and many others will be created by the different choices I make with every thought I have [03:46] <MadIce> But thanks for the answer Alex. You once again proved you were making up a story about how worldline fit your logic. At least John Titor did not do that. [03:46] <AlexanderTT> but yours is not a waste [03:49] <DWOMT> this room just went silent [03:50] * Thelper has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks [03:50] <Thelper> back [03:50] <catman1> still here [03:50] <DWOMT> front [03:50] <MadIce> Yay! [03:50] <Thelper> I dont like this mirc program [03:51] <Thelper> alex gone? [03:52] <DWOMT> don't know [03:52] <DWOMT> he got quiet [03:52] <Thelper> i c [03:52] <DWOMT> you know, why are all TTers men?..haa haa haa..we need some women TTers [03:52] <catman1> Alex are you here? [03:53] <DWOMT> hmmm [03:53] <DWOMT> there must be a PM battle going on [03:53] <DWOMT> I sense it [03:53] <Thelper> [URL='http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.madcow.ap/index.html']http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.m...w.ap/index.html[/URL] [03:53] <AlexanderTT> i am talking to thanatos1 [03:54] * Cyberbomb has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks [03:54] <Cyberbomb> hi all =D [03:54] <catman1> hi [03:55] <Thelper> hi [03:55] <Thelper> [URL='http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.madcow.ap/index.html']http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/02/16/new.m...w.ap/index.html[/URL] [03:55] <Thelper> read that article [03:55] <Cyberbomb> heh, I seen that earler =D [03:56] <Thelper> new mutated cow deases [03:56] <Thelper> interesting isnt it [03:56] <AlexanderTT> not new [03:57] <Thelper> since JT said mad cow desease will become a problem [03:57] <Cyberbomb> yeah, wonder how long it is till it speads fast then the mydoom virus =D [03:57] <Thelper> well to them they renamed it base [03:57] <Thelper> so something is different [03:57] <Thelper> mad cow isnt doom virus [03:57] <Thelper> it spread through meat no? [03:57] <Cyberbomb> heh, im making a comparison on how it might spread at the same speed =P [03:58] <Cyberbomb> we all open e-mail attachments [03:58] <Cyberbomb> we all eat meat =P [03:58] <Thelper> cyber you really interesting in spiritually? [03:58] <Cyberbomb> simularity, i think so >=D [03:58] <Thelper> finding one self? [03:58] <Thelper> cuz I know of course im observing starts on 20th [03:58] <Thelper> if your interested [03:58] <Thelper> its free and online [03:58] <Cyberbomb> rofl, why would I spend so much tiem reading this stuff and going to astral theklper =P [03:58] <Thelper> i get u link then [03:59] <Thelper> [url="http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/2.html"]http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/2.html[/url] [03:59] <Cyberbomb> wait wait, I got school, it might cut into that [03:59] * catman1 has quit IRC (Client closed connection) [03:59] <Thelper> have look it thou [03:59] <Cyberbomb> ok [03:59] <Thelper> starts on 20th [03:59] <Thelper> its online and free [SIZE=5][COLOR=#80ff00][I][/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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