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<blockquote data-quote="Judge Bean" data-source="post: 15045" data-attributes="member: 42"><p><strong>Re: Patriot Act type legislation</strong></p><p></p><p>They want to cut the gangmembers out of the herd and send them to federal prisons after federal convictions-- presumably on "concurrent jurisdiction" crimes. They know the truth about the gangs, that they are a prison problem more than a street one, and they want to help the powerful California guard union by breaking them up. That is part of it.</p><p> </p><p>The other part is the president's agenda (and now his wife's) to break up the gangs nationwide. There may be a million young men, a lot of them out of work, most of them "minorities," armed, delinquent, angry at "authority," unable to drive because they've lost their licenses for failure to pay child support or drunk driving-- in short, a massive infantry militia without clear political loyalties. </p><p> </p><p>These are the ones they need to draft in order to carry on their stupid wars. This is the historical pool of soldiers drawn upon in every war in history. What it is <em>not</em> is a vast army of organized criminals-- forget the propaganda.</p><p> </p><p>Since the AG has designated my city a hotbed of dangerous gangsters, I suppose that my experience here should count for something. I have represented thousands of gangmembers in Fresno, both juveniles and adults. By far the most common crime committed by them has been auto theft, and most of the time the car is stolen for personal reasons by an individual or by a pair of guys who need a ride right away to e.g., get to a party.</p><p> </p><p>When the car is stopped and searched, there is sometimes a pistol under the seat.</p><p> </p><p>Other common offenses committed by gangmembers: the usual: domestic violence, possession of drugs, resisting arrest, robbery (beer run out of the 711)... and, way down on the list, every once in a while, so seldom that you have to look up the statute... the additional allegation that the crime was committed as part of gang activity.</p><p> </p><p>Just like the "Russian mafia," Peter Pan, and Scientology, the urban legend of scary, dark "gangbangers" roaming the streets preying on lawabiding citizens has taken hold of the imagination of many and is being used to prompt broad social policy. Now we have federal agents on the streets targeting the "enemy," or the "urban terrorists" as they are called. Their job, obviously, as Darkwolf says, is to disarm citizens.</p><p> </p><p>At first, they will have no trouble disarming parolees, troubled youths who've gotten their names into the police computers as "certified gang members," and drunks who try to struggle away from cuffs. </p><p> </p><p>Then, at least in Fresno, there will be no soldiers available. Then comes the door-to-door.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Judge Bean, post: 15045, member: 42"] [b]Re: Patriot Act type legislation[/b] They want to cut the gangmembers out of the herd and send them to federal prisons after federal convictions-- presumably on "concurrent jurisdiction" crimes. They know the truth about the gangs, that they are a prison problem more than a street one, and they want to help the powerful California guard union by breaking them up. That is part of it. The other part is the president's agenda (and now his wife's) to break up the gangs nationwide. There may be a million young men, a lot of them out of work, most of them "minorities," armed, delinquent, angry at "authority," unable to drive because they've lost their licenses for failure to pay child support or drunk driving-- in short, a massive infantry militia without clear political loyalties. These are the ones they need to draft in order to carry on their stupid wars. This is the historical pool of soldiers drawn upon in every war in history. What it is [i]not[/i] is a vast army of organized criminals-- forget the propaganda. Since the AG has designated my city a hotbed of dangerous gangsters, I suppose that my experience here should count for something. I have represented thousands of gangmembers in Fresno, both juveniles and adults. By far the most common crime committed by them has been auto theft, and most of the time the car is stolen for personal reasons by an individual or by a pair of guys who need a ride right away to e.g., get to a party. When the car is stopped and searched, there is sometimes a pistol under the seat. Other common offenses committed by gangmembers: the usual: domestic violence, possession of drugs, resisting arrest, robbery (beer run out of the 711)... and, way down on the list, every once in a while, so seldom that you have to look up the statute... the additional allegation that the crime was committed as part of gang activity. Just like the "Russian mafia," Peter Pan, and Scientology, the urban legend of scary, dark "gangbangers" roaming the streets preying on lawabiding citizens has taken hold of the imagination of many and is being used to prompt broad social policy. Now we have federal agents on the streets targeting the "enemy," or the "urban terrorists" as they are called. Their job, obviously, as Darkwolf says, is to disarm citizens. At first, they will have no trouble disarming parolees, troubled youths who've gotten their names into the police computers as "certified gang members," and drunks who try to struggle away from cuffs. Then, at least in Fresno, there will be no soldiers available. Then comes the door-to-door. [/QUOTE]
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